Game Thread #92: Rockies (39-53) at Brewers (50-41)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 10, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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PrintAfter last night's debacle, I'm not going to make any remarks about the quality of a certain ex-Brewer pitching for the Rockies. I'll just note that Jorge de la Rosa is starting for Colorado, and for whatever reason, he's been rejected by both the Brewers (before we were good) and the Royals. Make of that what you will.
Dave Bush is starting for the Crew. His 4.74 ERA is now closer to his 2006 number than his 2007 mark, and he's down to a blistering 3.20 in his last seven starts. He has a 2.87 home ERA, which isn't quite as good as Parra's, but is better than Ben's. But still, I shall not comment on the likely outcome of this game.
Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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I LOVE DAY GAMES
Especially with MLBtv, I can watch the entire game at work and helps the afternoon fly by… also with this game the game should end right when I normally leave work!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Not so good in Australia
Night games start at 10:00AM!
Day games are over long before I wake up.
What am I supposed to do now, work???
Night games are exceptional though.
That whole morning work thing just flies by.
by Braun Holio on Jul 10, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
when will it be time to ask Jason Kendall for forgiveness?
I thought he would absolutely suck and just kill the lineup. Now I see the error in my ways, I realize that instead of being terrible, he’s just below average. That is a dramatic difference from what I was expecting. Kudos for not sucking too bad
KEEP VOTING
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 10, 2008 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
From McCalvy
The Brewers are giving some thought to a fifth starter platoon, in which McClung would make road starts and Bush would pitch at Miller Park.Entering Thursday, Bush is 3-2 with a 2.87 ERA in eight starts at home and 1-6 with a 6.95 ERA in nine games, including eight starts, on the road. McClung, who started the season in the bullpen, is 1-1 with a 3.28 ERA in 11 appearances on the road and 4-3 with a 5.08 ERA in nine games at home.
Does anybody else see this as highly impractical?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080710&content_id=3105071&vkey=news_mil&fext=.jsp&c_id=mil
Tom H. isn't done with Mota:
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/07/10/mota-not-being-dumped.aspx
Some highlights:
In a decision that’s sure to cause much anguish across Brewer Nation, manager Ned Yost just told us that there are no plans to get rid of reliever Guillermo Mota, who has been a human batting practice machine of late.
Yost said he didn’t think Mota’s confidence was shattered and that he’d be able to handle the inevitable booing at home that comes with his entrance into games.
Suffice it to save I have huge doubts about all of that. If the Brewers allow Mota to continue to lose games, the quote from general manager Doug Melvin that “we’re going for it” after the CC Sabathia signing will start to ring hollow.
My only guess is that the Brewers don’t think they have a better alternative. And I’d say just about anybody is a better alternative right now.If the Brewers end up losing the division by two games again this year, they’ll regret how many games they allowed Mota to spit up.
But, of course, that’s just my opinion.
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
All of that below "some highlights"
is quoted from the piece. My blockquote formatting didn’t work out as I would’ve liked.
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
RE: Mota
Ned’s postgame interview last night and the pre game presser today were hilarious. Tom H. was pressing him on the Mota subject pretty hard today, and Ned was pretty agressive in disagreeing with him. After last night’s game, the first question was about Mota, and Ned wouldn’t even resond and he just said “Benny pitched a great game tonight.”
I’m not the biggest Yost fan or the biggest detractor, but Jesus that guy and the media go together like nuts & gum.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
I like (I think it was Jeff’s) the theory that Ned is just pissed off from dealing with Tom H. all of the time.
Coffee is for closers
In the questioning, I recognized McCalvy and Haudricourt, but there was also someone with an older sounding voice pushing him on Mota. I wonder who that was.
Ned was right that Mota didn’t “lose the game” or any game. The press people there could have done a much better job of phrasing the question.
What Tom H. doesn’t get about Mota is that he’s a run producer.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 10, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some one makes "no concept" joke
in 3…..2….1…....
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Looking good early
arrgh!!!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Does Bush realize
he is supposed to hlod the runner?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
We continue to
under appreciate Kendall at times!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
oh, no TV today?
I must say I like the no-frills broadcast + radio commentary they do at MLB.tv in these situations.
damnit!
I love that too, but I’m leaving for work in ten minutes. Shoot.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 10, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought
your were at work 24/7??
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
pretty close
but most of the time I work from home. not always, though.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 10, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The Figuero Theory
It seems like all a team needs to do to be successful against us is to include a marginal former Brewer in the line up.
Coffee is for closers
Kapler
2 out double! Come on Rivera
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
We needed some GRIT there
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
yup... tightened up, 2 hours to go
everyone vote!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
wow weeks!
what a weird play
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
nice
I love Braun… who says he sucks with 2 outs and RISP?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Who should I vote for in the AL?
Who are the leaders for that vote?
"My fellow nerds and I will retire to the nerdery with our calculators."
Mariners released Sexton today?
anyone going to pick him up
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
uecker loves talking about bringing your glove to the ballpark
Does anyone here actually do that?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I was thinking the same thing,
but replace 16 with 12.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
I've been tempted
and would if I was in HR territory.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless your in the box seats down the line
Then it’s a valid self defense move.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 10, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Batting glove
or a winter glove
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Latex gloves in the prostate exam truck?
I wonder what Uecker’s opinion on those is.
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cards down 4-1
And Cubs down 4-3… can the Crew pick up a game on both teams?
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Bill Hall
Now 11 for 22 on the homestand.
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I LOVE
BILL E HALL
Sometimes
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57th round draft pick Gabe Kapler
Now 3 for 7 on the homestand.
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Shoe polish on the ball?
Check that thing…
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It's stuck in Rivera's foot on gameday
That’s good enough for me! :)
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I went with gameday audio because I'm in market
but the times I’ve used mlbtv from out of town it’s been pretty nice. Silverlight is kind of wonky sometimes though.
doesnt matter
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take it back
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
sack's loaded for braun
that comment could be taken in a dirty way by trenni after not seeing ryan for awhile
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Or another DP!!!
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
nice
that was barely hit, but found a way
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Or error?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Wow, seeing Fielder run always scares me
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Another ex-Brewer
Luis Vizcaino’s coming in.
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sorry corey
the half inning is over that I sat down to watch while voting. back to work for me:(
hope you appreciate the 5080 votes
out of curiosity...
who are you guys giving your other vote to when voting for corey?
i have been voting for giambi; cause he is having a great year…
go get em' seth!
split it between longoria,
figure the huge market teams don’t need any more fans.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Longoria
because he rides the pine on my Fantasy team
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 10, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
plus
she’s the sexist desperate housewife
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if Vizcaino will bat for himself
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Fontenot with another HR
Another guy who Cubs fans hated and is now doing pretty well. “Wonder Hamster” is one of his nicknames.
Dave Bush
Rudely pitching too fast for Uecker to finish his story.
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Here he goes again....
There’s another great story folks…
Must be a yawner at the “ball yard”
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
rental cars
are cracking him up
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actaully that was pretty funny one
I can relate to that story being in another country where I needed a card to show the cabbie…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I'm assuming you saw already
But Randy Choate was outrighted to Nashville. Contract rules are confusing.
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No, I didn't yet...thanks
I figure he must’ve been put through waivers the last couple of days, but I’m sure we’ll hear/read more from the usual suspects soon.
With Trachsel as the first out of the 'pen
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Bush on pace to get more K's than Ben
What alternate universe did we slip into?
10 K for Bush
Ties the most he’s had as a Brewer.
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His most since 9/10/2006 to be precise
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10 Ks
WOWO
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Pretty impressive sounding
I mean, after all, he’s throwing Darts.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
Ben had the first 10K game of the season last night
and Bush matches him.
anyone think that the other pitchers are trying to show off for CC?
challenging him to pass him up on Sunday with 12 Ks I hope
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Bush ties his career high
Box score for that game.
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I am impressed
Bush you are in the rotation… McClung, back to the bullpen when Suppan comes back, although you have been great
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
If Bowers pitches the final two innings without giving up a run
The ERA’s for the Rockies pitchers today will end up at 7.26, 7.80, and 8.10.
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Dunn
MONSTER shot for the Reds.. I think it cleared even the street that thing was crushed. 10 – 5 Reds. T6
Big Country out of Wrigley like you say
Throw that one back Flubbies fans. Rain coming down pretty hard too.
Good golly
The press box PA just announced this was the first time Brewers starters have had 10+ K in back-to-back games since 1987.
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Nieves on Sept. 30
Higuera on Oct. 2
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Just tuned into the game
How in the world did Sabathia crawl inside Dave Bush’s body?! This is impressive.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
If it's Sheets, no
I can live with it being a ‘rubber-armed’ guy like Bush going this far
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
After Arizona
It’s probably a mixture of Yost being gun-shy about the bullpen and giving Bush a chance to get a standing ovation.
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The 20 Ks in the last two games
That’s $500 or so Eric Gagne has to give to charity.
Coffee is for closers
not sure if it's just on my end but...
the CAPTCHA on the ASG vote isn’t working right now…as long as something is entered in the box(letters, space, numbers, doesn’t matter) , it’s accepted.
You don't even have to type anything.
Just hit enter and quickly. Its been that way from the beginning on my computer.
Edwin E who plays like a gold glover against us
tosses away a double play ball as the Cubs are coming back
#12!
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Now I would guess Bush is done
He got his standing ovation and is at 124 pitches. Even Ned won’t let him go past that.
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(plus his spot is up to bat second)
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Question
Anybody know if FSN will be able to show a replay of this game later tonight? Terrible one to be blacked out.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Nice job, Bushy
Brought his ERA (4.47) down to league-average now, too…NL starters are at 4.46 as of yesterday.
maybe
Ned will have him pitch another 1/3 an inning to drop it down to 4.46
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
For the Brewers it's 13 now (it had been Sheets' 11 yesterday)
For all of MLB it’s also 13 – Hamels on 6/11 and Beckett on 4/27.
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23 by the Cubs Lilley and Dempster
14/15 May against the Padres
Also 22 by Cleveland C.Lee and Some guy who goes by the name of CC
26th and 27 june against the Gaints and Reds respectively
If my math is right....
Bush has a tidy 2.48 ERA….. for his last 9 games.
Sheets has a 2.79 for his has nine games.
Lets get this Bush guy out of the rotation
McClung’s definetly better.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
the real argument here is what to do with Suppan
Bush has been incredible over the past month, McClung and Parra are doing equally although Parra’s really ramped up his starts lately, and it’s just Suppan who’s dragging the staff down.
(Sabathia to the pen? Let’s see what he does Sunday.)
there's still the question of limiting Parra's innings
With Mota seemingly toast, perhaps they’ll try Parra as a set-up guy for a while until the inevitable starter injury or meltdown…
Is Mota toast? Maybe, but the blather coming out of Ned says he’s great and they’re going to keep him around. Admittedly, that could mean the opposite.
Honestly, I don't know either
When Mota is bad, he’s really bad, but it doesn’t look like a full-on Turnbow crash’n’burn to me (and I’m not buying his “pitching anti-christ” reputation out of NY)...maybe he really just needs some time off.
With Bush's 13ks in this game
Does that mean Kendall isn’t that big of a help, or that Bush thrives with a low KUG catcher?
Coffee is for closers
You got that right!
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how many SBs today?
Rivera looked helpless out there.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Before the season...
Who’d have thought that Kendall would be compared favorably to another catcher in the stolen bases department?
No
The box score is right – Dillon walked for Bush.
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Can we vote for JJ???
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
A better idea might be
To stand by with a fire extinguisher. He’s about to burst into flames. Dozens of people spontaneously combust every year, it’s just not that widely reported.
10 min
VOTE FOR COREY
as fast and often as you can
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
there could be a recount
no validation code will be the new hanging chad
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Remember back when I said what the Rockies ERAs would be if Bowers pitched two scoreless?
Now it’s 7.26, 7.80, 13.50—it’s been a good day.
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Why is Uecker still announcing every pitch?
Break out the Pocket Doppler and vote!
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Wonder if
I can workmans comp with MLB for Carpal Tunnel????
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
two men on in the seventh for the Cubs
They got Coco for the ninth. I hope they can get there. And Jimmy Ballgame is up.
at the very least
we’ll gain a little on the Cubs in the all-so-important Pythagorean Record competition
ex post, I love our crappy Pythagorean record
although I worry that we can’t keep it up
by keephopealive on Jul 10, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I broke the voting thingy
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 10, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
taking FOREVER for image to load
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It all your fault
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
my last vote is still processing
I think I got 10 more in in that last 10 mins, and It just now cut me off
I gotta say
Beyond the stat line for Bush, this was a big win after losing 2 of 3. A split doesn’t sound so bad.
Crazy
That a Thursday day game is a sellout with over 43,000 in attendance. I guess that’s what happens when you trade for Carsten.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
Wow a Thursday afternoon sellout?
That’s crazy. I had no idea. Dave must pitch better in front of large crowds.
by MillerParkSouth on Jul 10, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
In addition to being 1/2 game up in the wild card
The Brewers are now 12-12 in games decided by five or more runs.
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safari/mac
i just clicked into the numbers box and hit enter
then moved my mouse down 2 pixels to click “vote again” and back up to the text box again
it was glorious to participate in the rigging of a vote. Now I know how the republicans in Florida feel:)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
don't want to get political
but how Florida republicans rig anything, allowed 2 recounts, but not 3
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For once
The fact that MLB.com doesn’t play with Macs anymore has a positive side effect.
Coffee is for closers
and even more shocking...
...I as a lifetime PC user, switched to this Mac at work about a month ago. And was on unix for about 2 months previous.
Sometimes I’m glad they stick me with a computer I didn’t initially want;)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Watch out
I hear Selig lurks around here
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
He'd probably like that idea
He might turn back the official MLB clocks fifteen minutes and only tell Brewers fans in order to guarantee Hart gets in.
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27 K
Over the last two games.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
gawd, I wish I could get today's type of broadcast on MLB.tv all the time
No on-screen stats, but I’ll gladly forego those if I could get moving images plus Uecker/Powell.
oh, there was a game?;)
i hadn’t noticed
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny
the MLB says “while the ballots are being counted”, what the server needed a potty break or is out having a smke!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
who is counting them?
shouldn’t the computer automatically tell us the votes, like a crappy ESPN poll?
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The SQL query probably took 5 minutes
...well, plus they hadn’t bothered writing the count or sum query yet;)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 10, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Now
I can’t even get MLB.com to load!!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Cubs down to 3 outs!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
He better be
I probably casted(grammar?) over 2k votes this year
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 10, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay!
Hart wins, Cards (and maybe that other team) lose, Bush Ks 13 – not a bad way to rebound from a tough loss.
by MillerParkSouth on Jul 10, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
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