Saturday Afternoon Open Thread
I don't know if KL Snow is planning on a Mug today, but the Cubs have a game going on (Rich Harden is making his first start for them), so feel free to use this thread to chat about that and post any links that you've found.

UPDATE: Giants somehow tie the game with two in the 8th off Hardy Hart Hart and five in the 9th off Marmol.
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3-0 Cubs in the bottom of the 4th
Harden struck out the side in the top and has 8 K’s through 4, the bastard. Cock Ass hit a HR, as well.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT 0 recs
Well it looks like we are going to have to win to keep pace
We are actually favored by the slightest of margins by Vegas, -110. Honestly I think that is very generous but maybe we have a better chance tonight than I think.
by dixieflatline on Jul 12, 2008 1:29 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah, not beating Volquez...
You enjoying Harden’s start? You think he’ll break the 20 K record today? :-)
by Santos Sorrow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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Nope
But I do think that he’ll share a similar fate with the previous Cubs pitcher to strike out 20 in a game.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:32 PM CDT
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Im just messing with you all
I wont post in your game thread today
by Santos Sorrow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:33 PM CDT
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Yeah, in 2018
That’s fine with me.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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In 2018?
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by TheJay on
Jul 12, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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Edmonds
.178/.265/.233, 39 OPS+ in San Diego
.260/.362/.520, 127 OPS+ in Chicago.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:36 PM CDT 0 recs
(and that's before today)
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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.226/.323/.401, 92 OPS+ overall
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by TheJay on
Jul 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT
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Home/road splits with the Cubs
.280/.393/.740 home (60 PAs)
.247/.341/.377 road (88 PAs)
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Career at Wrigley
.259/.381/.578, for a tOPS+ of 111.
What’s interesting is that he’s actually underperforming his eBABIP, by fairly large margins. In fact, while a Padre, his BABIP was almost lower than his LD%, .227 to .224. As a Cub, his BABIP is only .269, while his eBABIP is .328.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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There’s nothing wrong in admitting that the Brewers aren’t anywhere near as good as the Cubs. Such an admittance would only make you look intelligent.
by Maddog on Jul 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Yawn
Would wandering over to blogs devoted to the Cubs make us look stupid?
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by TheJay on
Jul 12, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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I apologize for the above poster's comment.
Nothing will make a Brewer’s fan look intelligent.
by eccles2 on
Jul 12, 2008 1:41 PM CDT
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A Brewer's, eh?
You so smrt.
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by TheJay on
Jul 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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Who had a quarter to two in the "first Cubs troll to be banned" pool of the day?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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That was me.
Do you need my paypal id to pay up? Or do you need to wait until you get paid so you can me that quarter?
by Maddog on
Jul 12, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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eccles2 is a new account
probably someone who was already banned
by ol Pete on
Jul 12, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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Clearly the Cubs are the better team...
as long as they’re playing the Giants and not the Brewers.
by madwilbury on
Jul 12, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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Parsing that again...
so admitting the Cubs are better would only make me look intelligent? I suppose I’d rather be intelligent, but then I’m not a Cubs fan, so perhaps looking intelligent is all that’s needed over in your camp? Please clarify.
by Zeyes on
Jul 12, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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Sadly, he cannot:
He’s banned.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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Aww, now he'll have to rant elsewhere about your steel-toed blog jackboots.
by Zeyes on
Jul 12, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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Banned?
This site is hilarious. Unfortunately the leader of this site doesnt realize that fans from the other teams, even fans who are trolling, make the site more entertaining.
WONDER IF ILL GET BANNED FOR THIS. Afterall, I am a Cubs fan. And also, IMO, the Cubs are a better team.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 10:29 AM CDT
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Jeff realizes that
And there’s room for many fans from other teams to come on and debate things, which they do constantly, but when people flat out tell us we suck all the time and all they do is insult the team (or post spam), that’s the point when they get banned.
I’m sure it’s the same on the Cubs blog.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on
Jul 13, 2008 10:45 AM CDT
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fair enough
but he still seems quick with the trigger.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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Hi, I'm not Jeff
You don’t get banned for liking the Cubs. You get banned for coming over here and insulting us. Don’t like our banning practices? Don’t like the Brewers? Don’t like spelling? Fine, don’t visit.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT
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Well
You also haven’t posted on here a lot, so I’m guessing you don’t read everything over here everyday. And, given that fact, you probably haven’t seen how bad it gets on here if people who make malicious comments are allowed to continue.
There’s a huge process Jeff goes through before banning people too, so he really doesn’t do it unless he sees a need to. Trust me, he’s a really good guy and wouldn’t just ban people left and right for expressing their opinions.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on
Jul 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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Ive seen it
Ive also seen people on the other BCB post what got them banned, and please, he is still quick.
It also seems that he will ban people if they come gloating. Gloating is fine IMO and yes insults deserve banishment.
“Dont like spelling” I like spelling. Its funny when people attack others on a board for spelling and grammar. I apologize for not putting my post throug WORD first.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 11:34 AM CDT
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Take a joke much?
If we banned for poor spelling you wouldn’t have even been around to not get the joke.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 13, 2008 11:47 AM CDT
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Gloating like that is poor sportsmanship
It’s like in high school, when all the popular kids would beat up on us geeks just to make themselves feel better.
Again, it goes back to the insulting business.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on
Jul 13, 2008 12:22 PM CDT
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Did he get banned?
For expressing that he thought the Cubs were a better team?
Mighty process for banning.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 11:39 AM CDT
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He got banned for this
Nothing will make a Brewer’s fan look intelligent.
I don’t know many places where you can get away with insulting the entire population. If Al Yellon lets you, bully to him.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 13, 2008 11:48 AM CDT
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Gimme a break....
fine. Ill think that he has a quick trigger and you can disagree.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 11:49 AM CDT
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Gallagher did well for Oakland yesterday
7.0 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 7 K. Excellent game. Hopefully the rest of his stay in the AL this year will be as spectacular.
Oh, and Murton started.
(nice article about Harden’s throwing program—unfortunately, as the article states, the A’s bullpen coach wasn’t traded)
by morineko on Jul 12, 2008 1:48 PM CDT 0 recs
I meant clearly they're better
based on such things as, you know, wins and losses, runs scored and runs allowed, those fancy things you wouldn’t understand. No big deal. You can’t expect to understand such concepts with the schooling in Milwaukee.
by Maddog on Jul 12, 2008 1:49 PM CDT 0 recs
And we have a silver medalist!
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 1:51 PM CDT
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And Cub fans really don’t understand why they are so hated. I’ve meet some great Cub fans but it seems thd douchebaggery ratio seems to be high.
by SgtClueLs on
Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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FWIW
Every fan from every team thinks that the fans of other teams are idiots/drunks/morons blah blah.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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actually its true
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on
Jul 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT
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Because you say so?
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by TheJay on
Jul 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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Harden
final line is
5.1 IP 5 H, 3 BB and 10 K- he used the fastball and change, hit 96 a few times
by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT 0 recs
So does that mean it will only take him until 2013 to become your All-Star closer?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 2:02 PM CDT
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20 strikeouts = 10 years
10 = 5
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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so far
the Cubs are talking about skipping his turn or pitching him on 5 days rest (he is much better when he gets that much time off) to try and keep him healthy. We have the luxury of doing that and its nice to see the Cubs are keeping in mind this guy was traded for to help in October not to win the divison.
All in all its a good start for Harden
by ACB on
Jul 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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- C. Gaudin relieved R. Harden
Come on, Billy.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT 0 recs
Amazing I have seen ACB in at other BCB sites
going on at length how Cubs fans never even think about Milwaukee and the Brewers but where are they all today?
Amazing how fans of a team with a 100 history of futility have such short memories isn’t it.
They forget being in first at the All-Star Break means nothing
enjoy beating up on the Giants sooner or later the two teams will meet and we will see what happens so far this season it has been to the Brewers side of the ledger
But you guys most likely do not remember that what with the whole ignore our history thing you guys have going
Question to the Cubs fans how come with all their World Series Championships the Cards fans are not flaming asshats like Cubs who have not won one in 100 years are?
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on Jul 12, 2008 2:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Everyone seems to forget
The Brewers were in first at this time last year. How’d that turn out again?
"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome
by zsxander567 on
Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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did
you see me flame anyone today? no
so save your bitching for somebody who deserves it
by ACB on
Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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a comeback?
Gigantes have the bases loaded top ninth, down by three, one out
by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Yahoo says it's still 7-6?
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT
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Nevermind, mlb.com has it tied
I’m pulling up mlb.tv now.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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two runs scored on that last play
Theriot tried to throw to second from his back and airmailed it, allowing the tie-ing run to score
by sheeter on
Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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wow
thats crazy- i left to go help a friend move some stuff and i come back and its tied
jeez
by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT 0 recs
Hmmm someone recently said something like this
“As long as Marmol is used when the game is on the line, he still can be a very effective relieve for the Cubs. If they lose confidence in him and put him in more middle-leverage situations, when he does blow up it is only going to look worse.”
I wonder if the Cubs were listening? I guess not.
by dixieflatline on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Gee, I wonder who that brilliant baseball mind was?
Haha
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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DeRosa flies out to the warning track
Whew.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT 0 recs
mlbtv
a little behind for me haha
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on
Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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i missed
the action- what exaclty happened to marmol in that inning?
by ACB on
Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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- C. Marmol relieved B. Howry
- I. Ochoa doubled to left
- E. Velez grounded out to second, I. Ochoa to third
- J. Castillo singled to pitcher
- R. Durham singled to center, I. Ochoa scored, J. Castillo to third
- B. Molina singled to right, J. Castillo scored, R. Durham to second
- A. Rowand walked, R. Durham to third, B. Molina to second
- J. Bowker grounded into fielder’s choice, R. Durham scored, B. Molina to third, A. Rowand out at second
- E. Burriss ran for J. Bowker
- R. Aurilia hit by pitch, E. Burriss to second
- E. Alfonzo hit for S. Romo
- E. Alfonzo singled to shortstop, B. Molina scored, E. Burriss to third, R. Aurilia to second, on shortstop R. Theriot’s throwing error
Apparently two runs scored on that last play, though.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on
Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT
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Wow, Marmol threw 36 pitches
He's extremely quick and good.
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Jul 12, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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