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I don't know if KL Snow is planning on a Mug today, but the Cubs have a game going on (Rich Harden is making his first start for them), so feel free to use this thread to chat about that and post any links that you've found.


UPDATE: Giants somehow tie the game with two in the 8th off Hardy Hart Hart and five in the 9th off Marmol.

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3-0 Cubs in the bottom of the 4th

Harden struck out the side in the top and has 8 K’s through 4, the bastard. Cock Ass hit a HR, as well.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4-0 now

Sigh.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well it looks like we are going to have to win to keep pace

We are actually favored by the slightest of margins by Vegas, -110. Honestly I think that is very generous but maybe we have a better chance tonight than I think.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 12, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, not beating Volquez...

You enjoying Harden’s start? You think he’ll break the 20 K record today? :-)

by Santos Sorrow on Jul 12, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope

But I do think that he’ll share a similar fate with the previous Cubs pitcher to strike out 20 in a game.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Edmonds

.178/.265/.233, 39 OPS+ in San Diego
.260/.362/.520, 127 OPS+ in Chicago.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's

all in the deep dish pizza

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Home/road splits with the Cubs

.280/.393/.740 home (60 PAs)
.247/.341/.377 road (88 PAs)

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Career at Wrigley

.259/.381/.578, for a tOPS+ of 111.

What’s interesting is that he’s actually underperforming his eBABIP, by fairly large margins. In fact, while a Padre, his BABIP was almost lower than his LD%, .227 to .224. As a Cub, his BABIP is only .269, while his eBABIP is .328.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There’s nothing wrong in admitting that the Brewers aren’t anywhere near as good as the Cubs. Such an admittance would only make you look intelligent.

by Maddog on Jul 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yawn

Would wandering over to blogs devoted to the Cubs make us look stupid?

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clearly the Cubs are the better team...

as long as they’re playing the Giants and not the Brewers.

by madwilbury on Jul 12, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Parsing that again...

so admitting the Cubs are better would only make me look intelligent? I suppose I’d rather be intelligent, but then I’m not a Cubs fan, so perhaps looking intelligent is all that’s needed over in your camp? Please clarify.

by Zeyes on Jul 12, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sadly, he cannot:

He’s banned.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Banned?

This site is hilarious. Unfortunately the leader of this site doesnt realize that fans from the other teams, even fans who are trolling, make the site more entertaining.

WONDER IF ILL GET BANNED FOR THIS. Afterall, I am a Cubs fan. And also, IMO, the Cubs are a better team.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 10:29 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeff realizes that

And there’s room for many fans from other teams to come on and debate things, which they do constantly, but when people flat out tell us we suck all the time and all they do is insult the team (or post spam), that’s the point when they get banned.

I’m sure it’s the same on the Cubs blog.

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Jul 13, 2008 10:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fair enough

but he still seems quick with the trigger.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 10:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi, I'm not Jeff

You don’t get banned for liking the Cubs. You get banned for coming over here and insulting us. Don’t like our banning practices? Don’t like the Brewers? Don’t like spelling? Fine, don’t visit.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

You also haven’t posted on here a lot, so I’m guessing you don’t read everything over here everyday. And, given that fact, you probably haven’t seen how bad it gets on here if people who make malicious comments are allowed to continue.

There’s a huge process Jeff goes through before banning people too, so he really doesn’t do it unless he sees a need to. Trust me, he’s a really good guy and wouldn’t just ban people left and right for expressing their opinions.

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Jul 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ive seen it

Ive also seen people on the other BCB post what got them banned, and please, he is still quick.

It also seems that he will ban people if they come gloating. Gloating is fine IMO and yes insults deserve banishment.

“Dont like spelling” I like spelling. Its funny when people attack others on a board for spelling and grammar. I apologize for not putting my post throug WORD first.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 11:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take a joke much?

If we banned for poor spelling you wouldn’t have even been around to not get the joke.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 13, 2008 11:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gloating like that is poor sportsmanship

It’s like in high school, when all the popular kids would beat up on us geeks just to make themselves feel better.

Again, it goes back to the insulting business.

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Jul 13, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did he get banned?

For expressing that he thought the Cubs were a better team?

Mighty process for banning.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 11:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He got banned for this
Nothing will make a Brewer’s fan look intelligent.

I don’t know many places where you can get away with insulting the entire population. If Al Yellon lets you, bully to him.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 13, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gimme a break....

fine. Ill think that he has a quick trigger and you can disagree.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 11:49 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gallagher did well for Oakland yesterday

7.0 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 7 K. Excellent game. Hopefully the rest of his stay in the AL this year will be as spectacular.

Oh, and Murton started.

(nice article about Harden’s throwing program—unfortunately, as the article states, the A’s bullpen coach wasn’t traded)

by morineko on Jul 12, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant clearly they're better

based on such things as, you know, wins and losses, runs scored and runs allowed, those fancy things you wouldn’t understand. No big deal. You can’t expect to understand such concepts with the schooling in Milwaukee.

by Maddog on Jul 12, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Cub fans really don’t understand why they are so hated. I’ve meet some great Cub fans but it seems thd douchebaggery ratio seems to be high.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW

Every fan from every team thinks that the fans of other teams are idiots/drunks/morons blah blah.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 10:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually its true

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because you say so?

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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Harden

final line is

5.1 IP 5 H, 3 BB and 10 K- he used the fastball and change, hit 96 a few times

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont know

what it means other than I like it-

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

20 strikeouts = 10 years

10 = 5

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so far

the Cubs are talking about skipping his turn or pitching him on 5 days rest (he is much better when he gets that much time off) to try and keep him healthy. We have the luxury of doing that and its nice to see the Cubs are keeping in mind this guy was traded for to help in October not to win the divison.

All in all its a good start for Harden

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

- C. Gaudin relieved R. Harden

Come on, Billy.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this one

is pretty much a done deal

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amazing I have seen ACB in at other BCB sites

going on at length how Cubs fans never even think about Milwaukee and the Brewers but where are they all today?

Amazing how fans of a team with a 100 history of futility have such short memories isn’t it.

They forget being in first at the All-Star Break means nothing

enjoy beating up on the Giants sooner or later the two teams will meet and we will see what happens so far this season it has been to the Brewers side of the ledger

But you guys most likely do not remember that what with the whole ignore our history thing you guys have going

Question to the Cubs fans how come with all their World Series Championships the Cards fans are not flaming asshats like Cubs who have not won one in 100 years are?

Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.

by WSB Chris on Jul 12, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone seems to forget

The Brewers were in first at this time last year. How’d that turn out again?

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on Jul 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did

you see me flame anyone today? no

so save your bitching for somebody who deserves it

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a comeback?

Gigantes have the bases loaded top ninth, down by three, one out

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rbi groundout

two outs, down by two

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HBP

bases loaded again

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nevermind, mlb.com has it tied

I’m pulling up mlb.tv now.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

two runs scored on that last play

Theriot tried to throw to second from his back and airmailed it, allowing the tie-ing run to score

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks more like Mar-Mota than Marmol

by juggernaut400 on Jul 12, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

thats crazy- i left to go help a friend move some stuff and i come back and its tied

jeez

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm someone recently said something like this

“As long as Marmol is used when the game is on the line, he still can be a very effective relieve for the Cubs. If they lose confidence in him and put him in more middle-leverage situations, when he does blow up it is only going to look worse.”

I wonder if the Cubs were listening? I guess not.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 12, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mlbtv

a little behind for me haha

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i missed

the action- what exaclty happened to marmol in that inning?

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

- C. Marmol relieved B. Howry
- I. Ochoa doubled to left
- E. Velez grounded out to second, I. Ochoa to third
- J. Castillo singled to pitcher
- R. Durham singled to center, I. Ochoa scored, J. Castillo to third
- B. Molina singled to right, J. Castillo scored, R. Durham to second
- A. Rowand walked, R. Durham to third, B. Molina to second
- J. Bowker grounded into fielder’s choice, R. Durham scored, B. Molina to third, A. Rowand out at second
- E. Burriss ran for J. Bowker
- R. Aurilia hit by pitch, E. Burriss to second
- E. Alfonzo hit for S. Romo
- E. Alfonzo singled to shortstop, B. Molina scored, E. Burriss to third, R. Aurilia to second, on shortstop R. Theriot’s throwing error

Apparently two runs scored on that last play, though.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jesus lou

couldnt you have brought wood in somewhere in there?

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Casper

said earlier that he is unavailable

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fontenot is slugging .511 this year

He’s drinking Edmonds’ blood.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thankfully it's a day game

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good inning by tyler walker

game goes into the 10th

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marshall is on

I believe Len said earlier that Leiber is the only reliever left available

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cotts?

did they use him up?

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm lucky

for the cubs that marshall is stretched out and has been throwing well

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just curious

Why are you banned at BCB South?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because

Al Yellon is everything that is wrong with Cudom and I told him so

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wrong....ive met Al a bunch of times

Unlike this site—-people get banned over ther inrequently and for good reasons.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 10:33 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

infrequently (heck its probably still spelled wrong)

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Jul 13, 2008 10:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s good you don’t let that color your opinion.

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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 11:59 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wilson in an all star

And maybe he deserves it but he looks like Turnbow just waiting to happen.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 12, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wouldnt

be surpised to see marmol sent to Iowa and Jose Ceda called up

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Wouldn't it Be Nice"

if this inning was over?

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jul 12, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ARam

I hate him so much, I’d hate to see him get another game wining clutch shot if they clear Lee

by SgtClueLs on Jul 12, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Old Style goggles

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your mlb.tv

is way faster than mine :(

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 3:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 3:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

720am

I’ve got WGN AM on here.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 12, 2008 3:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cmon

soto- show us the power of the Cubs Farm!

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gameday still has it at 9mph SW, which is in and to the left, but I have no idea how often that’s updated.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soto

rides the Sloop John B back to the dugout.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jul 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like that

Should we call striking out “Riding the Sloop John K”?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bah

this game is my cubs fanship in a nutshell- a sweet start from our new SP , our offense crusing along and then a guy who was the best RP in baseball for over a yr shits the bed and we are tied

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like

the brewers i really do but WGN hooked me as a child and alas I am stuck

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

i was at StL when Marmol threw 2 innings with a 6-0 lead

bah

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 3:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which team will run out of players 1st?

The Giants only have Hinshaw left in the pen and no bench players left.
The Cubs have Cedeno and Blanco on the bench and Lieber and Wood in the pen.

by Saltire on Jul 12, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh..

2 On, No Outs. Need a big K here and then a grounder.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 12, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ted Lilly sighting

hanging out in the bullpen

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ARGH

I hate Reed Johnson… Gallardo needs to punch him in the testicals.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn, I didn't get to use

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jul 12, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Start Seth in my Fantasy league?

I picked him up 2 weeks ago for a spot start and he for some reason has stuck on my team, With Matterson and Kershaw sent down I’m really struggling to find starters.

ERA for the week is 1.80

Team I’m playing has an ERA of 2.80 going into today. He has Marmol. He also has no more starters going today or sunday. I have 3 potential starts with, Danks (In Texas), Seth, and Dice-K tomorrow.

I’m losing whip. 1.20 to 1.08

Also trailing in wins 2-1.

I only have 20 innings pitched so far and I need 25 for the week,

by Flag Up on Jul 12, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And...

I have no hope on catching him in the OUTS and K categorys.

by Flag Up on Jul 12, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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