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Game Thread #94: Reds (45-49) at Brewers (51-42)

Edinson Volquez brings some very sparkly full-season numbers into tonight's game, but he is coming off of three decidedly mediocre outings--against the Jays, Pirates, and Nats, no less.  Seth McClung, on the other hand, has given up exactly two runs in five of his last six starts.  The last one of those was even at home!

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Strange

More than halfway through the season and both starting pitchers, even though they’ve been on their respective teams all year, haven’t started against their opponents yet.

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Counsell leading off

No Jeff Keppinger for the Reds, but that’s only because they’ve replaced him with Adam Dunn (sadly not at short).
box

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 4:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Elias Says...
REDS HAVE COMEBACK WIN IN MILWAUKEE
The Reds came from three down to defeat the Brewers in Milwaukee on Friday, 6-5. It was the Reds’ first road win of the season in which they trailed by three or more runs, leaving the Braves, Rockies and Mets as the only teams that have not won in that manner on the road this year.

Ick.

LOSERS SCORE FEW RUNS ON FRIDAY
The 15 losing teams in the major leagues on Friday combined to score only 23 runs, an average of 1.53 per game. That’s the second-lowest average on any day this season on which more than one game was played. On April 27 the 15 losers scored 18 runs, 1.20 per game.

Well, I feel better that our team was one of the best losers!

link to full article

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To paraphrase...

LOSERS DON’T SCORE

yeah, big surprise there :).

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 12, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

kirbir would’ve sent Braun packing if he showed up looking for love last night?

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a good start

"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue

by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I went in the kitchen for about 30 seconds and there is yelling on TV

I whip back and there is Dunn trotting around the bases. Damn Seth.

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

right as i tune in

goodbye. i’ll be going now

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 12, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody heard

anything about Suppan? Is this McClung’s last start for a while?

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

tv guys

said he’d be back right after the all star break

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

I would guess that means McClung to the ‘pen, can’t see them putting Bush out there with the way he’s been pitching

by sheeter on Jul 12, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wish mike rivera would play more

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Weird play there

A 2-6-3 CS?

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 6:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It’ll be interesting if FSN has a better replay later

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Volquez has 45 pitches through 2 2/3

How many pitches does Baker let him throw? I bet he gets up to 135.

by Rawiswar on Jul 12, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The most he's thrown this year is 118

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, was the roof closed during the first?

There goes my theory. Oh, well, small sample sizes are fun.

(I wasn’t home. Yes, I missed the first part of a McClung start, shock!)

by morineko on Jul 12, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No idea, but if it means anything, the HR by Dunn wasn’t a long one.

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Open

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

he had no idea where that was

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I thought he was showing some attitude, but you’re right.

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully the Reds picked up on his confusion

And don’t think he was showing them up.

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tuned in just in time to see that

That was funny.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prince looked confused at the plate

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Volquez settles down

I was hoping he might get rattled

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Minor league stuff

Michael Brantley’s back in the starting lineup for Huntsville. Zach Braddock got absolutely shelled at Brevard County.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he’s the PTBN. He’s got some nice numbers.

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone needs to be up in the pen

McClung needs the map to the strike zone.

by morineko on Jul 12, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CV for the 6th.

So many dam LH bats tho

by Flag Up on Jul 12, 2008 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he plays the infield too!

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we already have a CC

please use C.C. in the future…

by keephopealive on Jul 12, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Craig Counsell was first

Darn n00bs stealing his nickname.

by morineko on Jul 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play!

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce

He sure has fallen off since the first week, eh?

by keephopealive on Jul 12, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard some media guy that covers the Reds say that he was calling him “Babe Bruce” for a while. Meanwhile, in Chicago, the new nickname for Fontenot I keep hearing is the “mini-Babe Ruth.”

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brent Brewer over the last week

.370/.414/.481

And only one error! (of course, he made two errors in the game before)

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wicked pitch

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a strange play

Braun killed that.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

friggin Encarnacion

bad glove, but for us, its gold

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DiFelice left Nashville's game after two innings

Hope he’s not injured.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whew

Another close call. By the way Braun was running, I thought that was gone.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And McClung with another quality start

Who’da thunk.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bigseth strikes out Bigadam

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Volquez gets carded a lot

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...green carded

Sorry, had to do it.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

wow thats dirty

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I don't set the political climate.

I just riff on it.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Volquez got to that fast

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, he was safe

BS

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, guess not

Yum, crow.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taylor Green had a good game tonight, 2-3 with a walk

He had been 3-24 with one walk since the trade.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there a player you don’t want to see go as the PTBN more than the others?

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lean slightly towards Brantley

I think he has a significantly higher upside, but I’m confused by the Brewers’ repeated failure to play him in center (he’s in left tonight). If he can’t play center, he can’t play, pretty much.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody

know why Homer Bailey fell off the face of the planet? the guy cant get anybody out in AAA and 2 yrs ago he was the cant miss prospect

by ACB on Jul 12, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he's still can't miss

for other teams lineups

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TINSTAAPP

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uno, the Best in Show at the 132nd Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, “throws” out the ceremonial first pitch a baseball game between the Milwaukee Brewers and Cincinnati Reds Saturday, July 12, 2008, in Milwaukee.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try that again...

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’ll go with both.

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooh... time for some photo shop fun...

... how do you feel about lovingly cradling Ned Yost? Or JJ Hardy?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 12, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trenni?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouse?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 12, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coming into this AB

Dillon has a sOPS+ of 5 against RHP.

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, that's awesome

253 vs. LHP (now higher).

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, that was so close

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals beating Pirates 9-4.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

meat free no doubt!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jul 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man...

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

come on russ!

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why russ why

3-1 count grounder to 2nd…

sigh

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

is adam dunn to us

what billy hall is to the reds?

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice response

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Encarnacion

with the bat and the glove

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well this was a fun game

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 12, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shaping up to be

another embarrassing loss.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jul 12, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mota could do that

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mota is significantly better than that.

"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder

by SRB on Jul 12, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mota getting ready?

Can we just refer to him as “White Flag” from now on.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 12, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Then what’s Gagne?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 12, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just bring back chris spurling

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i got my peanuts ready

this might be a while

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So...

Who is most likely to be traded for bullpen help?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 12, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps they are attempting to use Mota in the same way that fire fighters use “back fires” to fight giant forest fires.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 12, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe they regurgitate this "mechanical flaw" BS

Until the Brewers sign a pitcher that can move the ball with his mind, the entire process of throwing a baseball is mechanical. So, if the ball is going in bad places, it’s obviously a mechanical problem. For everyone. Every time the ball goes in the wrong place. Until they sign the telekinesis guy. There’s absolutely no value to saying something is a mechanical problem.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 12, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I believe the technical term for that mechanical flaw is “sucking at pitching”

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 12, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On RR, we have a guy who says that all the time.

He thinks Homer is not “extending” enough or some such.

Just look up “Johnnypronto.”

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jul 12, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

And that’s women’s Jesus-y t-shirts, BTW.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jul 12, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

crazy idea

DFA Mota and invent a season ending injury for Gagne and move on. Bring up DiFelice and either Dillard or Pena.

Is it because its too much of an admission of failure by Melvin that it doesn’t happen?

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not so crazy

DiFelice got pulled from his start tonight after two innings and 32 pitches. No apparent injury, from what I could tell. My only guess is that he was traded or called up.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 12, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now would be a bizarre time to call him up

It’s unlikely he’d be able to pitch tomorrow anyway even if he was with the team, so save some money and put him on the roster on Wednesday.

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to the Sounds website

he was pulled for “undisclosed reasons.” I don’t think it was an injury, considering that the relief pitcher started warming up during the top half of the second (if they thought he had been hurt, the reliever would have started warming up after he got back in the dugout or the trainer would have come out there.) Then, after the Sounds took the field in the third inning, DiFelice and two other players went out to the clubhouse with what appeared to be a police officer or security guard. I checked and, no, he’s not in jail.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 12, 2008 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could have been a family emergency, I guess.

TheJay’s right. Calling him up now doesn’t make a lot of sense, particularly since Villy and Torres are available today, not to mention Parra or Bush if things get out of hand. It would explain the use of Mota in the 9th yesterday though, which struck me as odd. I thought they might leave Gagne out there to get shelled rather than use another pitcher and bringing in Mota to keep things from getting out of hand doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Ah but what do I know? Ned said after the game he was encouraged by Gagne’s outing even though he was responsible for 4 runs in the 9th. Maybe he expected Gagne to give up 6 runs, so 4 was a pleasant surprise.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 13, 2008 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were both wrong

From the Tennessean this morning: “Sounds pitcher Mark DiFelice left Saturday’s game after two innings with an apparent but undisclosed injury. He was escorted to the clubhouse by trainer Jeff Paxson.”

by Tom (RFTN) on Jul 13, 2008 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't remember

affeldt ever throwing that hard before

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by Michael M on Jul 12, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry about that...

Johnnypronto says he isn’t “extending” enough and probably needs an MRI.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jul 12, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez

The Reds and Astros are the only two NL Central teams with a decent bullpen today. The Cardinals just blew a four-run lead in the ninth.

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by TheJay on Jul 12, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's an interesting question that I hate even thinking

If the Brewers totally bomb the next 3 weeks, something crazy like lose 12 out of 15, do they put Sheets and Sabathia on the trading blocks?

by brewfan2 on Jul 12, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The only way that should happen,

Is if those two are both injured….
So then we couldn’t trade them anyway…

by Braun Holio on Jul 12, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suck

that was a fun one to witness live :(

The crowd was pretty electric in anticipation of a Branyan 3-1 homer in the seventh… but he couldn’t convert.

Also, Cubs, what the hell?

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Jul 13, 2008 12:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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