Game Thread #95: Reds (46-49) at Brewers (51-43)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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Thanks to an amazing comeback from the Pirates yesterday, the Brewers stayed within a half game of the wild card lead. It'd be nicer to stay in it by winning a game now and then.
Today, the ball goes back into CC Sabathia's hand, while the Reds turn to Homer Bailey.
Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Hall starting at third against the righty. I wonder if that’s because Branyan’s 2 for his last 26. Hart also has the day off – Kapler starting in right.
Andy Phillips is starting for the Reds at first and Hairston is in his third position of the series (RF).
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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CC
should be hitting 8th, and Kendall should be hitting 12th.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall's 0 for his last 20
I hadn’t noticed that. He hit really well for a month before this stretch.
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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just don't understand
why yost won’t play rivera more.
not only for hitting but to keep kendall from wearing down
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Jul 13, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, Rivera needs to play more
I can’t believe he didn’t pinch hit him in the 9th on Friday. Kendall was a free out for the Reds.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not playing Rivera is one issue
But not pinch hitting is completely another. Really what are the chances that in the little part of the game left that Rivera goes down with an injury? You can’t plan your whole strategy over a 0.01% chance.
by dixieflatline on Jul 13, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what are the odds that Rivera hits into a triple play?
You really can’t just throw these ideas out there without considering all the possible downsides.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are the odds
that he hits into a triple play and gets injured doing it?
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly;) look at the game logs, suggested Rivera pinch-hit for Kendall or the pitcher
several times about a month ago
it’s really a no-brainer. if rivera manages to get the lead/tie AND get injured in the process (or the next half inning), Craig Counsell is on our depth charts for catcher and Joe Dillon could probably stand in in a pinch. If he gets injured that AB, game is over anyway, call up a warm body from AA/AAA.
sure, Counsell’d probably just let the pitcher throw whatever they wanted, but they would probably be able to block the ball provided it didn’t have too much vertical movement. Ie, catching gagne would be a snap.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kendall's started 140+ games a lot in his career
So he might not be wearing down.
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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may play more after the rotation change
From what I can tell, Kendall is catching Parra and McClung because he’s coaching them through learning how to pitch better. Sheets and Sabathia already know how to pitch. I haven’t heard about Kendall working with Bush.
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this hart's first day off this season?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I remember him having a day off after he misplayed a couple balls. Ned said it wasn’t related.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
double switch
maybe he can actually come in on a double switch today instead of getting removed by Nedly.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
carlos marmol replacing wood on the all star roster
i hope he doesn’t get into the game
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
by Michael M on Jul 13, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad his implosion yesterday wasn’t televised. I wonder if he still strutted around the infield.
Turnbow redux or Turnbow II or Turnbow’s brother by another mother or…
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was some talke he might be optioned to AAA after yesterday
That would be awesome if a cubs AAA player got to play in the all star game. I mean the Cubs got robbed with now only 8 players named to the roster. I mean if Marmol and his ERA over 4 is on the team then shouldn’t Howry/Cotts/Lieber/Wuetrz be there too? What about DeRosa, Theriot and Fontentot? They should have had like 14 players
by dixieflatline on Jul 13, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does lou pinella
know about clint hurdle…
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by Michael M on Jul 13, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long
as they win and get the Crew home field advantage in the World Series.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol was chosen by the players
He had the next highest number of votes amongst relief pitchers in the players vote so that is why was chosen to replace Wood
by Saltire on Jul 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
he can pitch to Veritek in the battle of the worst all stars chosen by the players.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i log in
injury delay on a foul bunt?
who?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheers
some cheers when Dunn got plunked
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Encrnacion
should have scored on that
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice move
CC drills patterson to set up the triple play.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is the crowd amped
or is sabathia? seems he’s struggled in the start of both games.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty versus Ned
Talk about a clash of the titans.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lucky
to come out of that mess with only 1 run scored
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a question to pass the time
What is wrong with a political commercial that begins with talking about a candidate’s commitment to the environment, and ends with solutions like lowering the gas tax and increasing off-shore drilling?
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he's hoping to channel PT Barnum
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they're going to play these things 1,287 times per day
I would like for them to be internally consistent.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showing Hart in the dugout
I wonder if Corey Hart’s trip to New York will be anything like the movie The Cowboy Way? That would be cool.
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
on the sac fly in the 2nd
why wasn’t CC backing up Kendall, but rather functioning as an ineffectual cutoff man?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa with God awful outfield play
ball gets by him and Lincecum gets a triple
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh
Did you guys know CC hit a home run this year? They just showed a clip of it, and I swear I’ve never seen it before
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
w00t!
Make it a home run highlight reel
by Marty McSuperFly on Jul 13, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
okay
what was fielder doing to hall in the dugout on that?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That a way Rickie
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone call Nashville and find out what they did last year. I think his on base was something like .440 after he came back from there.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from an article
here
“The last time the Pirates came back from a six-run deficit to win was July 3, 2005, at Milwaukee, where they trailed, 8-2, heading into the seventh to win, 11-10, in nine innings. “
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 13, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And at this moment the Pirates are coming back against the Cards again. Now tied at 4.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hello from the game
iPhones are cool. Sabathia homering was cooler.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 13, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So get that iphone
to go do something about the lack of offense!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must be BCB tailgate day, cuz its just a handful of die-hards here.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
too nice out, only nerds on internet right now
only huge nerds outside AND on internet
by warwick5s on Jul 13, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's raining
down here in Atlanta so I have an excuse ;-))
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, I resemble that remark
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 13, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the Sabathia trade
Did we ship our good bats to Cleveland too.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s frustrating when the only offense against the starters the Brewers can get is out of the pitcher. (And, last night, the pitcher + Craig Counsell)
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I think Sabathia brought his run support
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RICKIE!
Now use some of that run producing magic.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is not the way to produce runs.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More classic Rickie!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This game
has been very frustrating thus far.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Homer Bailey of the plus 7 ERA
Six innings, 5 hits, 4 Ks and 1 run. Sigh.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HIS NAME IS F'IN HOMER...
Dammit!
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there we go!!!
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jul 13, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet..
Y’all can tell me what happened faster than Gameday…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, close
But Gameday won…though I did give it a bit of a head start.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did my best gameday imitation by getting it wrong.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the gesture
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Severe
Grit shortage, need a major shipment of KUG to Miller Park!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CC
Will he hit for himself this inning.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shrimpy...
it helps to swing the bat…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please
Stop doing the Wave!
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FIELDER
That was awesome!
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now
Let’s get some runs damnit!
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
time for me to get a concept
and realize that Rickie is our run-scorer
by keephopealive on Jul 13, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
way to Cadillac Phillips
Can’t believe Votto couldn’t touch it though.
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
more clutch hitting
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
Looked like I picked the wrong time to get some work done…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Walk off
the Crew is going to enter the All Star break with a walk off win. I nominate Billy Hall.
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some innings have been seriously eaten today
So that’s what Sabathia is for!
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s to rest our “overworked” bullpen.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to nitpick
But what’s the point of resting the bullpen before the All-Star break?
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ned thinks this one is going to go for 20 innings.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, I guess we have the advantage there…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Crew
would be letting CC pitch for a complete game win if Rickie knew how to run the bases!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Random tech note
Someone forgot to white balance the home plate camera.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope you guys are enjoying this … this is the Vintage Sabathia, regardless of what the announcers say.
He’s not completely dominating … but he’s a horse … and he’s a warrior.
by Jay on Jul 13, 2008 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With all the hype, unfortunately, I was expecting something different—but you’re right. He’s a lot like Ben Sheets, and I’m happy with having the left-handed Ben Sheets around.
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Santana (when he was Santana) didn’t dominate every single game.
Sabathia will give you a ton of winnable games and a ton of innings, and that’s what great pitchers do.
by Jay on Jul 13, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC!
For Governor of the Universe!
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CC for Closer
And starter.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we have
a team of 9 Sabathia’s now the we traded LaPorta!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that was a very impressive inning
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now don’t make a running error.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baby
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jul 13, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the run probability
First and third with no outs?
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2000%
With the amount of grit coming up
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the 1999-2002 numbers …
1st and 3rd, no outs, at least one run scores 88.6% of the time.
by Jay on Jul 13, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, should have been 87.6.
With bases loaded, no outs, it’s 87.2%.
by Jay on Jul 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
could be a great way to enter the break
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Counsell?
Hart should be up there.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They need him
to win home field for the NL…obviously
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with Coco coming in that’s not a bad call
by ol Pete on Jul 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
walk kendall to get to counsell?
he’s mr. clutch and the bases are loaded
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jul 13, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I was Counsell
I wouldn’t bother swinging against Cordero.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the walk-off walk.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Counsell is very good at walking. Or fouling off about 10 pitches per PA.
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C.C.
Batting 1.000 with the basses loaded this yr.
by Flag Up on Jul 13, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WINNER
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jul 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THE WIZARD OF WHITEFISH BAY
COMES THROUGH!
And Cordero gets the loss, I believe.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope
The guy who is responsible for the winning run gets the loss.
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by TheJay on Jul 13, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did it!!!!
and this is why he’s there :)
by morineko on Jul 13, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CC an C.C.
one heck of a combination
by keephopealive on Jul 13, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 of the 3 runs came from CC and C.C.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 13, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The perils of having o’s between your C’s…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heard a rumor
That we’re looking to acquire Coco Crisp? We want a three-pack of C.C.’s?
:-P
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
by ryan braun on Jul 13, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ned had a fever
and the only cure was more Counsell.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 13, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And more good news!
We gained a game on the Pirates
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Houston kept pace though…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 13, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
O's
have tying run on 3rd against Papelbon in the 9th
by molitorfan on Jul 13, 2008 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cubs lose!
As an Indians fan, I’d really like to see CC do that a few more times for you guys
by APV on Jul 13, 2008 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just watched the highlights on mlb.com
i watched most of the game but didnt hear much. brian anderson is a total moron….calling cc’s 80 mph bender a “cutter” repeatedly. He is truly awful.
by marty22 on Jul 13, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently,
CC calls that pitch a cutter so they were only calling it that because of his response. They made reference to that point a couple of times.
by brewfan2 on Jul 13, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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