Turnbow Expectations
by MadJimiBrewha
on Jul 17, 2008 3:23 AM CDT
After coming across Turnbow's name in the SI article on Attanasio, I got to thinking what my expectations are for him in the future.
My very first impression was the true comeback story. Something along the lines of Turnbow pitching decent enough in AAA to allow himself to be included on the 25 man roster for the p-offs. You know what I mean, the true "cinderella story" where he figures it out, makes his way back to the team, and does something spectacular to earn his place in Brewers lore. I believe this idea came from the fact that he hadn't had any glaring BB-loaded appearances, that I had noticed in recent memory, and that I generally want the underdog to succeed.
Being the semi-knowledgeable baseball fan that I perceive myself to be, I decided to check his recent stats to determine if he was in fact on the road back. The first thing I noticed was the 1 ER in the 4.1 IP from June 23 to July 9th, encouraging right? Sadly, then I saw his most recent outing on June 12th, .1 IP, 1 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 0 SO. That line has me a little worried that we may have seen the last of the Turnbow we love. I'm not sure if there is minor leauge pitch f/x, but I would love to find out what is going on with a pitcher like Turnbow. There are obvious times when Turnbow is lights out, but then there are those obvious times when he is more wild than a cricket on coke. Maybe dixie already has data on Turnbow that reveals what he does/doesn't do in his good/bad appearences (which I apologize if I'm not aware of it), but I would love to know what is going on. Anyway, my main goal throughout this rambling post is to get a pulse on everyone's expectations of Turnbow from here on out. Feel free to elaborate on your poll selection
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I think that 4 walk game was in a big rainstorm or something
not that it makes it any better, but it was probably a factor.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on Jul 17, 2008 9:42 AM CDT 0 recs
It wasnt raining very bad when he went in it just got worse, however an “experienced” pitcher should be able to cope with any situation
by nashvillesoundgal on
Jul 17, 2008 11:58 AM CDT
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Turnbow
I really like the guy, I do. I really hope he does make it back to the majors. You have to believe that when the rosters expand, he’ll be one of the pitchers that comes back up, simply because of his experience with the majors. We’re going to need arms, and, I imagine Turnbow will eventually scrap something together. Will he ever be the same, though? Doubt it. It’s a shame, I loved the guy.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
by ryan braun on Jul 17, 2008 11:45 AM CDT 0 recs
I will tell you after watching the last game that he pitched not even a full inning something has to give. I cant decide if Turnbow has just lost it or what is going on walking in 5 runs in less than an inning is pretty bad. Something has to give
by nashvillesoundgal on
Jul 17, 2008 11:57 AM CDT
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He is done.
I don’t even believe that he will make it back to the bigs when the roster expands. According to Cot’s this is his last year. I don’t believe that any other team is willing to take much of a chance on him. He might get a Minor league deal somewhere, but my money is that he won’t see MLB action again.
by Saberilliterate on Jul 17, 2008 12:27 PM CDT 0 recs
Turnbow will not play for the Brewers again
He is no longer on the 40 man roster, so he is not a potential September call-up unless they put Cappy on the 60 day DL and use that spot for T-bow. I have a feeling that Cappy’s spot is being reserved for Gamel as a pinch hitter or possible platoon with Hall if Branyan’s OPS stays under .600. The other options on the 40 man are at least as good as Turnbow, if not significant upgrades so it makes no sense to burn another spot on pitching.
So unless some GM thinks Turnbow is a possible ‘change of scenery’ guy he doesn’t see the majors again this season and is probably on a minor league deal next season and a non-roster invitee to a spring training camp.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 17, 2008 12:42 PM CDT 0 recs
Did they take him off the 40-man when Sabathia was traded? I could have sworn he was on it the last time I checked a few weeks ago before the trade. (But I have indeed been known to be wrong.) In any case, if the Brewers official site is correct, there are only 38 men on the 40-man roster.
I’m going to a Sounds game on Saturday; I’d like to see him pitch if only to judge for myself just what’s going wrong.
by morineko on
Jul 17, 2008 4:28 PM CDT
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He's out of options
He couldn’t have been sent to the minors unless it was on rehab or if he was outrighted, the latter of which removes him from the 40-man.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on
Jul 17, 2008 5:58 PM CDT
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Ah, that explains it. ’s what I get for looking at the 40-man roster and the Sounds roster in quick succession. (Like I said, I’ve been known to be extremely wrong.)
by morineko on
Jul 17, 2008 7:19 PM CDT
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He is so far gone
I doubt he will even show up as a non-roster invitee at someone’s spring training camp next year.Pitchers with double digit ERA’s, averaging several walks and about a wild pitch an inning – with his age and experience – are not exactly hot properties..If the Brewers could have solved – no, make that reduced – his problems, he would have been picked up by a team in need of pitching, saving Milwaukee a couple hundred thousand in salary, Hell, a 5+ ERa with 9 k’s and 6 bb’s per 9 innings would have garnered interest.
Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
by richfry on Jul 17, 2008 1:10 PM CDT 0 recs
There is always a shot at Japan ball they love head-cases over there
by nashvillesoundgal on
Jul 17, 2008 2:46 PM CDT
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Holw Kow
That’s pretty sick.
Sagawa now lives in Tokyo and is a minor celebrity in Japan. He is often invited as a guest speaker and commentator. He also writes restaurant reviews.
That’s sick too.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Jul 17, 2008 4:54 PM CDT
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yep
reading that left an unpleasant taste in the mouth. I had to go brush my teeth.
Seriously? The dude is free? Who wants to raise some funds for a bereaved member of his victim’s family to hire a hitman?
by PagsBrewCrew on
Jul 17, 2008 7:44 PM CDT
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Who is inviting this monster as a guest speaker?
And restaurant reviews?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Jul 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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While he is pretty sick...
Is he actually in Japanese baseball?
Or do you just mean they love headcases in Japan?
by NoahJ on
Jul 17, 2008 10:41 PM CDT
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Judging by his wild pitch delivery, I’d imagine he’d have quite the swing, too. Could he be the next Jeromy Burnitz?
On second thought… good luck with that control Derrick!
by MillerParkSouth on Jul 22, 2008 9:52 AM CDT 0 recs
Actually, Turnbow was reputed to have some serious BP power
But, as you might expect, he had some problems making contact.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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