Game Thread #96: Brewers (52-43) at Giants (40-55)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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PrintHey, look at this--we're opening the second half with quite the pitcher's duel. The 2008 Brewers ace versus the 2009 Brewers ace! (Maybe. Kind of. Please?)
CC Sabathia takes the hill with his Marcel-projected 3.21 ERA while Matt Cain counters with his 3.7 runs of average run support. Just think how happy he will be in the Milwaukee rotation.
Game time is 9:15 CT, and thankfully it's the only night game of the series. Here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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1st!!!!!1111!!!111!
LOL OMG BFF!
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 18, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry
I always wanted to do that
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 18, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
you'd better apologize
do you think this is the cubs forum?
sigh
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Will we someday see a Matt Cain pitched
1-0 shutout Brewers win in which the only Brewer run is scored on a home run by Lorenzo Cain?
If this scenario was indeed the case, I would not want to face the Brewers if my last name was Abel.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
In enemy territory
I’m “stuck” in Sonoma tonight, so I’ll get to watch the game on the local SF station.
Oddly enough, I was at a winery today that sold NFL and MLB-logo wine carriers. They had the Raiders, 49ers, and A’s. But not the Giants. Maybe the locals too realize that the Giants suck.
BTW, I’ve had way too much wine today.
Beer is still better, at least for watching baseball.
Wine Angel
i was just about to ask the same thing lol
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
you mean he hangs out with jeremy jeffress?
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
anyone remember when len kasper subed for vasgersian?
i think it’s odd that now he’s on wgn
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Soto was "born in Puerto Rico from ages four to seven."
Eh?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
What was he doing before age four then, I wonder?
Plotting?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
what's edmonds eating in chicago?
1-0 cubs
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
This guy didn't:
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fontenot almost homers
He’s still slugging .500—what the hell?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
nice
I really like the ad banner the Astros had behind homeplate for the Dodge Challenger. 425 Caballo’s
just heard on wssp
durham and aurillia were scratched from the lineup tonight
don’t know if it’s because of injury or trade…
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Jeff's post about the 2009 Ace
Are we rumored to get Cain or is it wishful thinking? I put in over 70 hours at work this week so I’m just a bit out of the loop.
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
totally speculation on my part
that said, I think it’s inevitable that, with CC and Sheets out the door, this offseason will bring a blockbuster trade involving Cain or Greinke (or someone similar), probably in exchange for Hardy and something else.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
CC Batting
You know, CC would be one pitcher who could and maybe should be batting 8th.
I am pro-Cameron
Take a pitch or foul one off
Cain better not go all rick helling on us here
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Wow
The Red Sox are really close to signing Alex Meyer:
The most shocking rumor floating around at this time is that the Red Sox are also very close to signing 20th-round pick Alex Meyer. The six-foot-seven power righty from Indiana has first-round stuff, but he was considered all but unsignable due to the Boras factor and a strong commitment to the University of Kentucky. The hottest rumor among scouting circles has $2 million looking like it will take care of both those issues.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Melville is supposed to sign too
Sources indicate that Missouri high school right-hander Tim Melville, who fell to the fourth round when he indicated before the draft that he wanted mid-first-round money to sign, will get just that and sign with the Royals for more than $1 million.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
That'll buy a lot of whaling supplies.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Curveballs
Ben and CC…could be Top 10 curveball tandem in modern baseball history, no?
I am pro-Cameron
this evening's guys I've never heard of list
I'm gonna put it out there; if you like it, you can take it, if you don't, send it right back.
I want to be on you.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Jeff, how have you not commented on this Anchorman quote yet?
It’s been almost 20 minutes.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Hart had "the kind of All-Star break every player hopes for, and that is to be an All-Star"
Yeah, that’s definitely not true.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
battlekow
did you happen to watch the whole ASG? I’m curious if Hart’s throw was even remotely close on the winning sac fly
Just a little up the first base line
it was a close play. Very few RFers would’ve made the throw. McCann got it on two bounces.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Yeah, it was close
But it was a weak two-hopper to the wrong side of the plate. A strong throw would have got him.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
It was.
Bounced a little too close to 1B – grass killed it. If it’s in the air or a 1-hopper, they’re still playing.
I am pro-Cameron
Dick Groch is watching the A’s in New York, potentially scouting Huston Street
No word on why Dick Groch is interested in a road in NY
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
I'll take Duchscherer, too
please.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
I wonder why Beane hasn’t dealt him yet. He has to be at the absolute zenith of his value right now.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I was about to say,
“because he has two more years under team control, and the A’s could contend in 2010”
but that would be wrong. He’s a FA after 2009, if I read Cot’s correctly. So yeah, maybe everybody came calling for Duke, and Beane said, “for the lousy prospect package you’re offering, I’ll give you the chubby innings eater or the injured dude.”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Just imagine the system they'll have if they do deal Duke
Just the Haren deal alone was obscene. Would they be the first team to ever trade 80% of their rotation in less than a season?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by the standard of the Phils and Cubs deals
the Duke deal could be huge. There might not even be that many teams with the ammo to get that done. The Dodgers come to mind, as they always do…
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Which brings to mind the question of whether anyone values the Dodgers' prospects less than the Dodgers themselves
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
that's how it seems...
except in trade negotiations, when the Dodgers won’t part with anybody. Have the Dodgers traded any youngsters of value since the Edwin Jackson and Navarro deals with the Rays a couple of years ago?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking of Navarro
he had been traded 3 times before getting his 400th AB. That’s pretty crazy for a guy who has always been well regarded.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
kind of
I had thought he was part of one of the other deals. quite a flurry of Dodgers/Rays deals that summer.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably was
He wasn’t much a prospect at that point, anyway.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Nope
“Traded by Dodgers with Sergio Pedroza to Devil Rays for Julio Lugo “
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
That was on 7/31/06
Navarro: Traded by Dodgers with Jae Seo and a player to be named later to Devil Rays for Toby Hall, Mark Hendrickson and cash (6/27/06)
Jackson: Traded by Dodgers with Chuck Tiffany to Devil Rays for Danys Baez and Lance Carter (1/14/06)
Wow.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
and while I'm at Cots
Street would be pretty awesome, if he stayed healthy—he’s still in his first year of arby.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
still more from Cots
Street is one of four A’s making more than $3MM. (Technically, Thomas is making more, but the A’s aren’t paying for him.)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
While we're going off on tangents
Thomas since being cut loose by the Jays: .319/.417/.516. Meanwhile, Toronto DHs have an sOPS+ of 84 (granted, some of that is Thomas).
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
and really
given how many teams waste their DH spot (cough Vidro cough), if you’re a GM and you don’t get 110 or more out of DH, you ought to be fired.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
And I know what everyone is thinking
No, Duke is not the first player ever to have “chsch” in his name: Gene Stechschulte. You might remember Stechschulte as the answer to another trivia question: who was the previous non-Kieschnick (“schn”—close!) pitcher to hit a pinch hit homer before Micah Owings did it earlier this year.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Duchshrerferr
Does this scare anyone else? Also, his average fastball velocity is 86. 
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
as someone who doesn't understand math and graphs
that scares me
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
To sum up:
If the green thingy is well below the blue thingy and the pitcher is simultaneously experiencing a lot more success than ever before, be suspicious.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I suppose it's possible that
he’s pitching differently as a starter…
...but his GB numbers actually went down from 07 to 08, so that’s a weak hypothesis at best.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
According to fangraphs
he’s throwing 40% FB now, 20% cutters as opposed to the opposite way around in the past. So maybe there is some change.
I think I’d prefer Street :).
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Roque Mercedes had another great relief outing for WV
Since June: 33.3 IP, 23 H, 10 R, 9 ER, 4 BB, 34 K.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
wow
definately thought he was out at first…but i’ll take the call
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
1-0 crew
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
or 2nd.
let Hardy be a “run producer” and lets see CC bunt some more :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
BA is now talking about how the infield is in tip-top shape--"infielders love playing here"
Whereas just a minute ago they were questioning whether the dirt was too hard. Okay, whatever guys.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
A gritty infield?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
how about
doubles from both hefty lefties in the same inning
For Battlekow
just read your draft pick interviews via the BBTF link. Great stuff. We have no such feature at Red Reporter.
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
Damn
that was excellent Jessica Alba sideboob.
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Really good stuff man. Inspired my email to you guys.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That guy
has a really nice ass/
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
She has bad nail polish
;)
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You know
here. You linked it your damn self.
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, that was over a month ago!
FYI, you can just click on “Interviews” on the left-hand side bar and access them all.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
It's
here. You linked it your damn self. Unless I’m confused about what you’re asking.
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuckin Mac Airport deception
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That's
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyways
great interview stuff and thanks for hanging out over yonder at RR.
"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.
by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
giants board on our announcers:
” They’re not that bad as announcers,
but they are pretty stupid as people.”
but another goes on to say they’re prepared…
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Spoiled
K&K are the best.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
"he's not going to get hits all the time"
even the best pitchers don’t…
yeah, bill, not even the best hitters do that either lol
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
nice hit by rickie!
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
wow nice play by winn
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
So evidently Ned is 'platooning' McClung and Bush
I don’t know about that one.
The more pressing issue at hand, however, is the platoon name. The clubhouse leader is McBush, or Son of Bush. Any suggestions? Also, someone needs to merge their faces.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Bushy'sClung
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Trenni was on the radio station that the lil' woman listens to in the morning
a non-sports station, and she sounds like an addictive clothes shopper. Perhaps that’s redundant since everyone knows she is female.
"Perhaps that’s redundant since everyone knows she is female."
lmao
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
I am very sad...
I have to stop following the game and will miss the next two so I can wake up at 5AM and bike from Mequon to Sturgeon Bay. Why I am I doing this voluntarily?
My wife...
and I can’t really have her being tougher than me. She cannot have more grit than I do. I could not let her be the Craig Counsell of our marriage.
by Rawiswar on Jul 18, 2008 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I could not let her be the Craig Counsell of our marriage."
someone has a sig
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
thought he was out at third...
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Braun took a page from the Prince Fielder Book of Sliding Late
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Corey's had plenty of wall misses
His one weak spot.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right, he did look kinda like Hart bouncing off the wall
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Not enough GRIT
his 4.63 KUG repelled that ball- a grittier individual would have attracted the ball.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Don't understand it
His team hasn’t lost in 5 days…hehe
Prince, wtf?
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
if we can't get a runner in from 3rd...
with prince, corey, and then branyan up…argh
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
This is sweet!
I know this is completely unscientific, but it certainly feels like the brewers blow situations like this more than they should statistically.
boo
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
night night
I hope I wake up to a CC complete game.
these west coast games crush my soul
I feel like this game has been going forever and we haven’t started the sixth yet
sigh...
LaPorta is going to be a beast.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
his OPS+
is 10!
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
more than 100 points
below CC’s :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Rickie one of only two players scoring >50% of the time when on base
We have no concept.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Well, if you knew anything about baseball...
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
FSN stats people
They must have been ordered to find every possible statistical twist to put a positive spin on Rickie
They should just give up and go Yost
“He scores runs”
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Haudricourt
reporting that the Brewers have a top assistant in New York this weekend, presumably to scout Huston Street.
uh oh – I think I riled him up there…
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Usually, these "human interest" stories bore me, but...
Trenni’s really good.
Rickie, Prince…c’mon dudes.
I am pro-Cameron
yay (yea for BK)
Should be E4.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Way OT:
it is a distinct possibility that, in order to win the WS, the Crew would have to beat the Cubs in the NLCS and then the White Sox in the actual WS.
How cool would that be?
I am pro-Cameron
Change it to E6
Aaron freakin Rowand
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
correction
The Overworked Bullpen™ hasen’t seen any action since last Saturday.
Well
career OPS+ of 83 doesn’t cut it for me, anyway- below average.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Ozzie
was 87. His numbers look worse because he played in a less offensive-minded era, but it still isn’t that far off.
Now, whether Ozzie should be in, or whether he should be used as an argument to let others in, that’s another story. That tends to be the problem in keeping the hall small—every time a marginal player is elected, he serves as the cause for electing two or three marginal guys, and so on.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a strange play by the heretofore undiscovered Ivan Ochoa
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
why
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
Pitch count
Give Gagne the 9th
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 18, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if, at any point in baseball history, a pitcher has thrown a complete game in two consecutive games that his team has played.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
many times, actually
you have to go back to the deadball era, but some pitchers, notably “Iron Man” Joe McGinnity, even threw all 18 innings of a doubleheader.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder when the last time it happened was?
I lack Jay-like BR skills.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Oh yes!
Vander Meer, baby! Back to back no-nos!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
BA reports that no one has even been up in the pen
Ned made a big deal when that happened with Ben earlier this year, said it was only the second time he ever remembered that happening, the first being with Smoltz I think.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
what does this mean
“Fred lewis reaches on missed catch error by 1B Fielder, assist to 2B Weeks”. Weeks helped Fielder make the error?
nope
Weeks get credited with an assist—just as he would’ve if Fielder had made the play.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 18, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
alright cc
nice win!
"If there is a more reactionary blog with idiotic commentary out there I'd be surprised." -On Bleed Cubbie Blue
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