Game Thread #98: Brewers (54-43) at Giants (40-57)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 20, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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PrintFor the first time in the series, the pitching matchup appears to favor the other guys--Manny Parra goes against Tim Lincecum. Lincecum missed the All-Star Game due to flu-like symptoms, but it sounds like he's ok.
You've probably noticed, but Parra has been impressive of late. Lincecum may have a 2.57 season ERA and a 3.33 mark in his last 7 starts, but Parra's at 2.68 in those same last 7. It's asking a lot to expect Parra to keep pitching like this, but even his regression-happy Marcel projection puts him under 4.00 for the rest of the season.
Game time is 3:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Extra Innings
today’s game is not on the Extra Innings schedule so it will be a Uecker day for me. Too bad, I was looking forward to watching Lincecum pitch after that SI article about his delivery.
Shawn Zarraga with a homer and a double today for the AZL Crew. (Zarraga == !BRRROK)?
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Haha, guess who committed an error?
Carlos E. George!
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Cubs up 3-0 on the Astros in the 6th
Fontenot with his 8th (?!) home run.
Cards and Padres tied 1-1 in the 4th.
Meanwhile, just to make you hate the Cubs even more, Jeff Samardzija is turning in his fourth straight good performance at AAA. He might finally be figuring out how to use his great stuff, which is bad news for us.
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Did anybody see that rediculous 5th for the 'Stros?
Bases loaded none-out, couldn’t get a run in, although the ump helped Dempster by ringing up Backe on an awful call
Just popped in on this game…looks like the Astros are swinging at anything and everything to poor results.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't get Dempster
I was going to complain about our division rivals always being able to turn relievers into quality starters, but I guess we did get McClung.
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The Cardinals announcers sound pissed off, in a prosaic, passive-aggressive Midwest sort of way
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Well, at least there was a nice knock down pitch on Fukudome…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Having just watched the highlights
The Cards seem to be struggling to fill the stadium.
It seems to be only about 2/3 full, if that which is not good considering how well the team is doing
They saw the 3682 shots of the thermometer at 110 on the Fox broadcast yesterday
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I went to a game at the Old Busch stadium in 100 degree heat, and it was miserable. To make matters worse, the Crew lost 1-0 on a Woody Williams RBI single…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
scratch that
my memory was a little faulty…it was a sac fly.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
My memory was apparently still faulty
Woody Williams scored on a sac fly by Edgar Renteria. But the game was about as yawn (and sweat) inducing as I remember.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN200407210.shtml
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see it was sunny but did not realise is was that hot
I can understand why people might have given the game a miss today
It never reaches much above 80 here never mind 100+
Scott Baker had a perfect game going in the 6th
Then Taylor Teagarden (what is that, like the fourth young catcher the Rangers have on their 40-man?) homered-his first Major League hit-and Baker not only lost the perfect game/no-hitter/shutout, but also the lead.
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People like cwyers are lke .003% of Cubs fans
I’m sure most of the Bleacher Creatures love The Riot.
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I guess it was asking a lot of the Astros
To sweep the Cubs
Win today and keep pace that is the plan an hopefully the Padres can actually hold on to a lead and Crew can role into St Louis in 2nd place
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
Trenni in her worst outfit to date
says deal for Durham hasn’t been finalized. I could see not talking about trades in the pregame but why take the time to say the trade hasn’t happened?
If they're going to do it...
...can’t they get Durham in the game, trade him, and then have him come in for the Crew?
Not many chances for that kind of thing…
I am pro-Cameron
Joel Youngblood
Last player to play for two teams on the same day.
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two singles and a walk in the ninth for Cordero
trying to preserve a tie game. Helped by Bako throwing out a runner.
I'm on my dad's computer
Not having an adblocker is very strange. I miss that Moundcharger game.
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Only one monitor, but the half dozen is a rather vast underestimate
Sometimes my eyes kind of glaze over and I forget which tab I’m looking for and I just click on them blindly for 30 seconds before snapping out of it.
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I hate myself for it, but I really love watching him throw
I just wish it was against the Cubs every time.
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Or just hit Pujols
That’ll really get LaRussa steaming
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully it's one of those cop killer ones that you can shoot through a bulldozer
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meh, sac fly…SD should breath a sigh of relief
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions
Haha, I love it
That might deserve a flag-flying just on its own. Vote?
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I can't remember the last time all three games of a series featured offensive contributions from our pitcher
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Bases juiced, 1 out
for SD right now
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions
wait, now I missed something...
nevermind, I’m an idiot
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
it was
first and second with 1 out and there was a ground out. Pitching change with 2 outs and men on 1st and 3rd
I think Jeff should try to quantify the run value of all those extra mound visits that Kendall supposedly saves
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it saves the team money on gatorade and energy bars for Mike Maddox
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither Pujols or Adrian Gonzalez playing today in the Pads/Cards game
Do managers come to some sort of agreement about these things (I will rest our best player if you do the same) or is it just coincendence?
Is Pujols getting the Bonds treatment?
Resting every Sunday because his arm is falling off?
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2 innings
47 pitches for Lincecum.
by rob deer's moustache will destroy us all on Jul 20, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
Where’s my backwards K button? Nice
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
SF announcers say Durham could be battling the flu
Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay
The Giants Announcer just spotted Durham in the Giants Dugout...
and said, “Durham out of the Starting Lineup today. Could be battling the flu.”
ha.
now the other guy informed him of the trade.
go get em' seth!
how does he not know?
I guess he doesn’t read BrewCrewBall!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Wow, ballsy move by Braun…with Fielder at the plate
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions
You should automatically lose games in which your top pitching prospect gives up a two-run homer to the opposing pitcher
Just by default, you know?
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Can someone explain what the point of the Durham trade is
Because unless they think he is going to start instead of Weeks then it seems that we have just replaced Joe Dillon on the bench.
Surely we are not going to keep Durham at the end of the year so why have we given up 2 marginal prospects for somebody who might only get a few AB’s a week and get paid millions for doing so.
Obviously if Weeks gets hurt (always a chance going by his history) then we have a better back up plan but you cant make trades just for that sort of eventuality can you?
I can't explain it
6 years of a durable lefty 4th starter seems many orders of magnitude more valuable than a few hundred (maybe) at-bats from Ray Durham.
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There is only 74 games left after today
Durham will be lucky to get 150 AB’s at most and quiet possibly less than 100
Cards bullpen has been used alot this series against the Padres.
Hopefully is might show an effect in their up coming series
I don't think any amount of plate discpline mojo works on Braun
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I remember him being better last year
not good, but better. Maybe I’m wrong…. new century and all that…
This is more of a Adam Dunn like Brew Crew today
Lots of walks even more K’s and a HR mixed in aswell.
J.P Ricciardi would hate us
Three hits?
That’s all we got, three goddamn hits? At least Arias walked thrice.
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But a below average 2 errors
That makes 62 errors so far in 22 games with only two games error free.
one 10 error game and a 8 error game does help get the total up.
Not much of anything at the moment
Including: shortstop, second baseman, baseball player…
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Fielder looks as big as Crazy Crab
There have to be a ton of great Vegetarian restaurants in SF. I wonder if he’s chowin’ down.
Jesus Christ, Padres
Throwing error, Pujols to third, one out.
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Why did they even make the throw
He double pumped before he threw, it wouldn’t have even been close had the throw been on the money
That's not at all what I called for
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Winn too fast for the DP, but Rickie's awkward turn didn't help
At least the throw was on the money.
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Braun making that adventurous looking
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions
Too bad strikeout's aren't abbreviated with R's
Parrrrrrrrra!
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You're just like Jason Kendall
Saved me a trip to the box score.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Wisconsin Sports Bar has some cool photos illustrating how tough it is to register a splash hit.
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i saw a ball floating last night
thought about diving in after it
it was near the pedestrian bridge.
I figured it was a BP ball or something that SF puts up to MAKE you make an idiot of yourself.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
On the bright side
Despite the Cards’ sweep, they haven’t really looked all that great at home against the team with the worst record in the majors. Every win was a come-from-behind, and they won’t get nearly as many chances against us as they did against the Pads. And, both CC and Ben (sounds like a 1970’s era buddy cop movie) will be pitching.
by rob deer's moustache will destroy us all on Jul 20, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions
Almost as good as
rollie finger’s MUSTACHE ride, who suggested we trade for FUentes
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
It's funny how certain pitchers make Braun look like the worst hitter on the team
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I don't know if I'd go that far
but clearly Bochy should not have let Lincecum pitch this inning
by Oakland Brewer Fan on Jul 20, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That was all set-up by the Run Scorer Rickie!
Gotta have Ned like faith that every now and then he’ll get on base by taking one in the noggin
Wow
I love this team… I know we have some weaknesses, but watching this team is a pleasure! (sometimes frustrating)
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Um...
Did you see that bat flip on the replay? Lost a lot of grit on that…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Delay
I am listening to the radio feed on mlb.com and have Baseball Tonight on mute. They showed the HR about 30 seconds before the radio announced it.
wow, that ball was the same pitch he rung Prince up on…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
I understand that it's a big series...
but why does BoSox-Angels of Anaheim get two nationally televised games in the same weekend? Wouldn’t fans like it more if they got to see some other teams? Is there no other big series going on this weekend?
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
Well, I should check these things out before opening my mouth…but there really aren’t any good series happening this weekend…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Except maybe the battle for the suck division LA-Arizona game…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
But since its all planned out, they should have had something different on rather than all the Sawx games they showed so far.
True
I know you gotta go for ratings, but doesn’t this come at the expense of some other quality teams?
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
And how exactly..
do the Mets get so many games? They didn’t even make the postseason last year (and they won’t this year either)
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
They are in the biggest TV market
And had a team that should have been in the playoffs last year and are one of the hottest in the league right now…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yeah
But they were still on ESPN all the time when they stunk earlier this year…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Mets will make the post season this year
The Phillies just dont have pitchers outside of Hamels
Well I suppos you'd be able to make an informed opinion on that...
with all the nationally televised Mets games :)
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hamels threw 8 innings of two-run ball today and the Phils still lost
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Is it just me
or has the Strikezone shrunk here?
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Seemed like Parra was getting squeezed on that walk…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
except pink bats
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I think so...
Fouled a ball off his bathing suit area.
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I think it did hit him in the no no zone…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
Winn looks really weird when he gets around that wall
The wind must be wicked out there.
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Looks like Parra’s going in the eighth…and nearly gets himself a double
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
That was disappointing
By Corey Hart…gotta get that
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
Did they really...
Give Rowand a double on that? Sucks for Parra
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
Though he’d probably prefer 0 ER
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
i anticipate
that one will be ruled an error later today.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 20, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
yup
If the drop on Wynn was an error, the one on Hart has to be…the wind ain’t an excuse
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Torres coming in for the save to face the bottom of the order
Questionable.
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give him a day off...
...i’d like to have him fresh for the next series.
Maybe Torres paid off hart to screw the pooch.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 20, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Torres
Hasn’t really worked much though…
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He worked yesterday
Who’s to say that he’s not going to be needed the next three games or something? It’s just pointless.
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He should keep Villy in anyway
If Villy can’t get three outs before giving up three runs to the Giants, he should be DFA’d.
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um....
Villy’s been doing well
Stetter scares me.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 20, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, you're the guy who posts YOSTED at the slighted provocation
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When it's warranted, IMO, sure I do.
I have nothing against Yost, and my spouting out of Yosted, is out of frusteration ATM. But I would never advocate not using your closer in a 3 run game. That’s just silly.
It's silly to not use your closer in a three-run game?
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One silly thing does not justify another silly thing
Any reliever on our team should be able to get three outs on the Giants before giving up three runs.
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Not using your pretty well rested closer in a save situation IS silly.
Silly even to argue that. Only thing I can think of is your fantasy team is facing Torres.
Actually, Torres is on my fantasy team
And I’m curious how you’re so prescient that you know Torres won’t be needed in three straight games in St. Louis or something. Good to know you’ve bought in completely to the bizarre save-driven usage that’s so prevalent in baseball.
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Weeks has two walks, one HBP, and no hits
Sounds about right. Jack Cust, middle infielder.
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Nice!
2nd & 3rd, no outs. That was a crazy bounce off Rickie’s helmet.
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Ricky's magical helmet gets JJ the extra base!
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
Line so far for Rickie's helmet:
1 H, 1R, 2 total bases
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun is the guy that people thought Francoeur would turn into
Now let’s see what Braun turns into.
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Nice.
I just got home—I had a bad feeling about the game for some reason, but am thrilled to be wrong!
Also, cheese.
Probably had something to do with the future Cy Young winner starting for the Giants
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on which front?
the initial bad feeling or the result?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 20, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly
I wouldn’t mind if the NL central won every game out of division, as long as we win all game within division as well;)
Shouse!
No post-game Krispy Kreme for you after this performance.
by rob deer's moustache will destroy us all on Jul 20, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Shameful
performance by the fans on that foul ball
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 20, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
Big series
In addition to the Cards-Crew, the Mets are playing the Phils starting Tuesday. Some good matchups this week.
I'd love to put up a post-game thread, but SBN is crapping the bed
Cool pic, too:
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Cool pitcher-hitting tidbit
Brewers left-hander CC Sabathia is the first pitcher to hit a home run in both leagues in the same season since Earl Wilson connected in 1970 for the Tigers off the Indians’ Steve Dunning, and for the Padres off the Braves’ Phil Niekro.
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Rock was on his game today
Wilson comes into the game.
Rock: He’s not a guy that will blow you away, he gets by on control.
(Radar gun shows 97, 96, 99, etc)
Rock: I guess the scouting report I read was wrong.
Later….
Rock: Brian Wilson is the kind of pitcher you build your team around. You don’t trade a guy like that.
Wilson ERA+: 93
Wilson WHIP: 1.527
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Trade official according to Haudricourt
Durham for Ford and Hammond
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
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