Game Thread #100: Brewers (56-43) at Cardinals (57-44)
Winning streaks are fun! Well, at least the parts of the winning streaks that don't involve coughing up a one-run lead in the ninth thanks to little-league quality defense. The rest is good, though!
Tonight's matchup is Jeff Suppan vs. Kyle Lohse, otherwise known as "Object lesson #672 on why Dave Duncan saves the Cardinals millions." St. Louis passed on signing Suppan, and in his place, they brought in guys like Lohse. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, but Lohse is currently sporting a 3.35 ERA, including 2.35 in his last seven starts. That span even includes the Tigers, Red Sox, and Phillies.
Game time is 7:15 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Lohse is almost the exception in St. Louis, isn't he?
A starting pitcher who came to STL as a starter.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 4:32 PM CDT 0 recs
pitch f/x
hey, dixie, i just used your pitch f/x web tool, and your ‘07, and ‘08 player cards to see that kyle lohse’s slider is much improved over last year. it’s an excellent out pitch versus right handed hitters. awesome resource, thanks again.
hey, brewers, i just used dixie’s pitch f/x stuff to scout kyle lohse. nasty slider, it’s coming low and away with two strikes, don’t be afraid to take it, cause nobody is hitting it hard. best to get the 91 mph fastball before kyle gets you to two strikes. lefties, watch out for the changeup, you’ll get that instead of the slider.
Bring Back The Old Logo!
by jacob on Jul 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Thanks, that is what it is there for
I wonder if the Brewers might be using the tool for advanced scouting. Nah…
I just got back from watch Tim Beckham hack mightily at some change up all night. He also had a very lazy play in the field. I am starting to wonder abot him.
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT
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Not that Beckham is supposed to be as good as him, but that sounds like what people said about Justin Upton in his first season
Of course, even if Upton was a good comp for Beckham, that’s a classic logic error, and I hate when people do that in arguments. “Well, Tom Glavine was terrible when he first came up, much worse than Brian Bannister was, so I don’t see why Bannister can’t become a HOFer.” Okay, that’s a slight exaggeration, but only a slight one.
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM CDT
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Tom Glavine is my second-favorite bad comp
Jamie Moyer is #1.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 22, 2008 8:25 PM CDT
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Speaking of Glavine
The starter for the P-Rays today was Matthew Moore big lefty who was consistently throwing 91-93 but litterally every off speed pitch was up in the zone. He had absolutely no location with either his slider or change up. He was getting hit all over and the four P-Ray errors in four innings weren’t helping much either.
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM CDT
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Haha, Bannister isn't even left-handed
Worse comp than I even intended.
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
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Yeah I hear you
The TB rookie team is really a mess. Throwing to wrong bases. Stupid baserunning errors. The who team is super toolsy with almost no skills. The fact that Beckham has started to not get in front of grounders and swinging at every pitch he saw today (all 4 in a rain shortened game) can’t be a good sign.
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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How did Beckham's brother look?
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT
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Wasn't even in the lineup today
He has looked terrible at the plate but good in the field (relative to the other players).
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM CDT
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Weird, he actually got promoted
I kind of just assumed they drafted him just to keep him with Tim for awhile, though I guess a 17th round pick is a little high to spend on a nepotista (nepotisto?)
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM CDT
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Oh I missed that
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT
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Wow Jeremy wasn't even hitting well and got promoted
I wonder if they thought he was a bad influence or what. I mean he was old for the league but still.
by dixieflatline on
Jul 22, 2008 8:36 PM CDT
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Stupid Mota and his fear of stairs
Here’s hoping he slams his right hand in a taxi door after the game tonite.
by Getting Yosted on
Jul 22, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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If that happened, it would turn out that he had just signed a two year extension with a hefty raise.
by ol Pete on
Jul 22, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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We have to be the only team for whom nRotation == nBullpen
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM CDT
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lineups
2b Weeks
ss Hardy
lf Bruan
1b Fielder
rf Kapler
3b Hall
cf Cameron
c Kendall
p Suppan
haven’t seen a cardinals lineup yet.
YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.
by Griswald on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM CDT 0 recs
hmmm
Hall hits the game winning home run, and now he’s starting against a RHP.
Maybe we’re just lucky Mota isn’t getting the start tonight…
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
by stigmo on
Jul 22, 2008 5:27 PM CDT
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And Rickie had the big HR to get the early lead, so we’re very lucky Mota isn’t starting. Maybe he’s the new closer.
by ol Pete on
Jul 22, 2008 5:30 PM CDT
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Well, I guess if LaRussa puts in a lefty reliever and then comes back to a righty, we’ll have all kinds of guys ready and able to come off the bench.
Maybe Ned’s genius is above our powers of comprehension.
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
by stigmo on
Jul 22, 2008 5:33 PM CDT
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money on
Gagne to close tonight (assuming lead).
Torres 3-4 days in a row, including multiple innings yesterday.
by PagsBrewCrew on
Jul 22, 2008 5:55 PM CDT
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Handcuffed bullpen due to the McBush platoon, day 2
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
by stigmo on
Jul 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT
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He started against a RHP yesterday too
I suspect him getting the start is partially because Branyan hasn’t been hitting well for a few weeks.
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by TheJay on
Jul 22, 2008 5:57 PM CDT
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I'm shocked that Durham isn't starting
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 5:40 PM CDT
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No Durham???
I’m confused… why trade for Durham but keep him on the bench?
by AndyB83 on
Jul 22, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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I asked myself this all day Sunday
Yost cleared it up with this quote “He’s (Rickie) working his way up. He’s getting better in all phases of his game. For me, he has never underachieved because he never achieved up here. How can you say he has underachieved?”
I love our manager, Its all crystal clear now why Rickie is going to get more starts than Durham…
by Scooter82 on
Jul 22, 2008 6:04 PM CDT
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Arizona just snagged Rauch
Hopefuly he’ll be able to make an impact before the series with the Cubs is over.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jul 22, 2008 5:45 PM CDT 0 recs
I only briefly glanced at the guy Arizona gave up, but he looked like a pretty nice 2b AAA player who might be close to moving up. Maybe he’s the guy Melvin was rumored to be talking to Arizona about.
by ol Pete on
Jul 22, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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Freeview for MLB Extra Innings - TWC
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Atlanta Florida: 6pm - 887<br />Phillies Mets: 6pm – 882
Cubs @ DBacks 8:30pm – 889 (Also on WGN 9)
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 6:00 PM CDT 0 recs
Woah.. @ made it nuts.
Atlanta vs Florida: 6pm – 887
Phillies vs Mets: 6pm – 882
Cubs vs DBacks 8:30pm – 889 (Also on WGN)
by SgtClueLs on
Jul 22, 2008 6:01 PM CDT
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I'll stick to the D'Backs broadcast.
Hate the Cubs & love me some Daron
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on
Jul 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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Someone just mentioned momentum on Brewers live
Smoke is coming out of Ned’s ears
by Scooter82 on Jul 22, 2008 6:57 PM CDT 0 recs
Bill's scouting report - first pitch strike
first three batters all look like they’re taking
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT 0 recs
Well....
Suppan”s back.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
damn
1-0 cards
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Good thing we activated Soup
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
might be an early night for sup
if he can’t get his pitches down…
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
real nice play by weeks
take that durham!
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
Glad Durham wasn't playing 2B for that one
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
i love good fundamental defense...
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
What the hell kind of defense is that?
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT 0 recs
Goddamnit Prince
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT 0 recs
The Brewers doing theie own
“who”s on first?” routine on defense there. Slightly less funny though….
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT 0 recs
This
is why Suppan should be in the bullpen
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT 0 recs
Fair enough.
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on
Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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Can we put Suppan back on the DL now
Stupid Soup is being a buzz kill
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT 0 recs
What are the chances
Suppan throws five scoreless after this and winds up with a quality start?
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT 0 recs
1/100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on
Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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SO....
You’re saying he’s got a chance!!!
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT
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It was on the briefcase the whole time
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I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on
Jul 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT
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he lives in the future
so it already has
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on
Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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So, then the pressure’s all on STL. Cool.
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by Lake County on
Jul 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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It could
Maybe he was a bit rusty from being on the DL and he’ll settle down now. Probably not likely, but possible.
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by TheJay on
Jul 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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I was wondering last night whether Seth was gonna stink it up and that turned out pretty well. Bush seems to do that once in a while.
by ol Pete on
Jul 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT
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True....
but if Lohse continues like this, 2 runs for STL will puh-lenty.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 22, 2008 7:35 PM CDT
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Worse than the chances he throws five one-run innings and winds up with a quality start
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by battlekow on
Jul 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT
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good call Jay
chances, in retrospect, are about 1/1
Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.
by nuclearbrewer on
Jul 22, 2008 9:49 PM CDT
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of QS, yes. of 0 runs, no;)
but i will definitely take it…now.
by PagsBrewCrew on
Jul 22, 2008 9:54 PM CDT
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A well executed play at first base
seems like we rarely see that
by Scooter82 on Jul 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT 0 recs


