Game Thread #100: Brewers (56-43) at Cardinals (57-44)
Winning streaks are fun! Well, at least the parts of the winning streaks that don't involve coughing up a one-run lead in the ninth thanks to little-league quality defense. The rest is good, though!
Tonight's matchup is Jeff Suppan vs. Kyle Lohse, otherwise known as "Object lesson #672 on why Dave Duncan saves the Cardinals millions." St. Louis passed on signing Suppan, and in his place, they brought in guys like Lohse. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, but Lohse is currently sporting a 3.35 ERA, including 2.35 in his last seven starts. That span even includes the Tigers, Red Sox, and Phillies.
Game time is 7:15 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Lohse is almost the exception in St. Louis, isn't he?
A starting pitcher who came to STL as a starter.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pitch f/x
hey, dixie, i just used your pitch f/x web tool, and your ‘07, and ‘08 player cards to see that kyle lohse’s slider is much improved over last year. it’s an excellent out pitch versus right handed hitters. awesome resource, thanks again.
hey, brewers, i just used dixie’s pitch f/x stuff to scout kyle lohse. nasty slider, it’s coming low and away with two strikes, don’t be afraid to take it, cause nobody is hitting it hard. best to get the 91 mph fastball before kyle gets you to two strikes. lefties, watch out for the changeup, you’ll get that instead of the slider.
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by jacob on Jul 22, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, that is what it is there for
I wonder if the Brewers might be using the tool for advanced scouting. Nah…
I just got back from watch Tim Beckham hack mightily at some change up all night. He also had a very lazy play in the field. I am starting to wonder abot him.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that Beckham is supposed to be as good as him, but that sounds like what people said about Justin Upton in his first season
Of course, even if Upton was a good comp for Beckham, that’s a classic logic error, and I hate when people do that in arguments. “Well, Tom Glavine was terrible when he first came up, much worse than Brian Bannister was, so I don’t see why Bannister can’t become a HOFer.” Okay, that’s a slight exaggeration, but only a slight one.
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Glavine is my second-favorite bad comp
Jamie Moyer is #1.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 22, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Glavine
The starter for the P-Rays today was Matthew Moore big lefty who was consistently throwing 91-93 but litterally every off speed pitch was up in the zone. He had absolutely no location with either his slider or change up. He was getting hit all over and the four P-Ray errors in four innings weren’t helping much either.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, Bannister isn't even left-handed
Worse comp than I even intended.
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I hear you
The TB rookie team is really a mess. Throwing to wrong bases. Stupid baserunning errors. The who team is super toolsy with almost no skills. The fact that Beckham has started to not get in front of grounders and swinging at every pitch he saw today (all 4 in a rain shortened game) can’t be a good sign.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did Beckham's brother look?
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't even in the lineup today
He has looked terrible at the plate but good in the field (relative to the other players).
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, he actually got promoted
I kind of just assumed they drafted him just to keep him with Tim for awhile, though I guess a 17th round pick is a little high to spend on a nepotista (nepotisto?)
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I missed that
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Jeremy wasn't even hitting well and got promoted
I wonder if they thought he was a bad influence or what. I mean he was old for the league but still.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stetter sent down, not Mota
ffffffffff
by warwick5s on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Mota and his fear of stairs
Here’s hoping he slams his right hand in a taxi door after the game tonite.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 22, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that happened, it would turn out that he had just signed a two year extension with a hefty raise.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have to be the only team for whom nRotation == nBullpen
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineups
2b Weeks
ss Hardy
lf Bruan
1b Fielder
rf Kapler
3b Hall
cf Cameron
c Kendall
p Suppan
haven’t seen a cardinals lineup yet.
YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.
by Griswald on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
Hall hits the game winning home run, and now he’s starting against a RHP.
Maybe we’re just lucky Mota isn’t getting the start tonight…
Steve
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by stigmo on Jul 22, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Rickie had the big HR to get the early lead, so we’re very lucky Mota isn’t starting. Maybe he’s the new closer.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess if LaRussa puts in a lefty reliever and then comes back to a righty, we’ll have all kinds of guys ready and able to come off the bench.
Maybe Ned’s genius is above our powers of comprehension.
Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
by stigmo on Jul 22, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
money on
Gagne to close tonight (assuming lead).
Torres 3-4 days in a row, including multiple innings yesterday.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Handcuffed bullpen due to the McBush platoon, day 2
Steve
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by stigmo on Jul 22, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He started against a RHP yesterday too
I suspect him getting the start is partially because Branyan hasn’t been hitting well for a few weeks.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked that Durham isn't starting
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Durham???
I’m confused… why trade for Durham but keep him on the bench?
by AndyB83 on Jul 22, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked myself this all day Sunday
Yost cleared it up with this quote “He’s (Rickie) working his way up. He’s getting better in all phases of his game. For me, he has never underachieved because he never achieved up here. How can you say he has underachieved?”
I love our manager, Its all crystal clear now why Rickie is going to get more starts than Durham…
by Scooter82 on Jul 22, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona just snagged Rauch
Hopefuly he’ll be able to make an impact before the series with the Cubs is over.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jul 22, 2008 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I only briefly glanced at the guy Arizona gave up, but he looked like a pretty nice 2b AAA player who might be close to moving up. Maybe he’s the guy Melvin was rumored to be talking to Arizona about.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freeview for MLB Extra Innings - TWC
For those with TWC, free preview continues.
Here are your games with importance to our beloved Crew.
Atlanta Florida: 6pm - 887<br />Phillies Mets: 6pm – 882
Cubs @ DBacks 8:30pm – 889 (Also on WGN 9)
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Woah.. @ made it nuts.
Atlanta vs Florida: 6pm – 887
Phillies vs Mets: 6pm – 882
Cubs vs DBacks 8:30pm – 889 (Also on WGN)
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll stick to the D'Backs broadcast.
Hate the Cubs & love me some Daron
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone just mentioned momentum on Brewers live
Smoke is coming out of Ned’s ears
by Scooter82 on Jul 22, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill's scouting report - first pitch strike
first three batters all look like they’re taking
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well....
Suppan”s back.
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by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
1-0 cards
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting to hate Suppan
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we activated Soup
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
might be an early night for sup
if he can’t get his pitches down…
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
real nice play by weeks
take that durham!
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad Durham wasn't playing 2B for that one
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i love good fundamental defense...
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell kind of defense is that?
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Goddamnit Prince
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Throw a first pitch ball!
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers doing theie own
“who”s on first?” routine on defense there. Slightly less funny though….
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by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This
is why Suppan should be in the bullpen
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I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
I am anti-Cameron.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we put Suppan back on the DL now
Stupid Soup is being a buzz kill
Its all about the Bullpen this season that is the key.
by WSB Chris on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What are the chances
Suppan throws five scoreless after this and winds up with a quality start?
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1/100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO....
You’re saying he’s got a chance!!!
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by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was on the briefcase the whole time
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he lives in the future
so it already has
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had this game in the L collum
before it started.
by Flag Up on Jul 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, then the pressure’s all on STL. Cool.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than my blood pressure up for no reason.
by Flag Up on Jul 22, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could
Maybe he was a bit rusty from being on the DL and he’ll settle down now. Probably not likely, but possible.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering last night whether Seth was gonna stink it up and that turned out pretty well. Bush seems to do that once in a while.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse than the chances he throws five one-run innings and winds up with a quality start
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good call Jay
chances, in retrospect, are about 1/1
Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.
by nuclearbrewer on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of QS, yes. of 0 runs, no;)
but i will definitely take it…now.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A well executed play at first base
seems like we rarely see that
by Scooter82 on Jul 22, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to tell Ruddy Lugo he's grown up now
It’s time to go by Red.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That whole team is a little old.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole league, probably
Someday I’ll run the numbers, but I’m guessing that there are a number of AAA teams with higher average ages than the Marlins—and probably some other MLB teams too.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAA is for has-beens
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flipped to the Houston game for a second
announcer said Wolf will pitch in the upcoming series with the Brewers
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why on earth are the Astros buying???
by warwick5s on Jul 22, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First let me figure out how to tell when melons are ripe.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the minors
Lorenzo Cain continues to flash impressive gap power at Huntsville. He’s doubled tonight, giving him 8 “troubles” in just 43 at-bats since being promoted. Cole Gillespie’s also hit his 13th homer.
At West Virginia, Caleb Gindl is 3-3 with a double and is again playing CF.
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
doubles and triples are now an aggregate stat?
I thought a triple required more speed and/or less fielding talent.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're essentially the same hit
Sometimes the right fielder is Randy Winn and you get a triple. Sometimes it’s Ichiro and you get a double. (just an example)
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow, I didn't even notice Roque Mercedes' line
6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 7 K
As I noted a few days ago, Mercedes has really been pitching well out of the bullpen the last couple months. Good to see that success carrying over as a starter. Hopefully he’s turned a corner; he’s got a ton of potential.
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love child
Of Raphael Roque and Jose Mercedes?
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 IP, 9 K for Mercedes now
What the hell?
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amaury Rivas’ first Brevard start didn’t go so well.
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by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soup
having no problem keeping it down this AB
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If salary played no role....
Would suppan be in the rotation?
by Rawiswar on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From my management position on the sofa – no
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
I wonder how many starts he gets to clean it up
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now it kinda feels like Suppan is the "special" kid on the little league team
And everybody has to get a chance to play
by juggernaut400 on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
Bush is eligible tonight, right…for like 3 innings?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would think even more than that, but dunno
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
we’re at essentially the same point in the batting order as them through 3 innings.
however, we’ve gone through it once. They’ve gone through 2x
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kudos to Weeks
Two well hit balls.
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a pretty good chance that I will still be muttering
“Kyle freaking Lohse can’t be this good…..can he?”, all the way up until the very second he wins the NL Cy Young award this year. Jesus.
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by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that should go straight to dave duncan's bookcase
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secret Cardinal sauce?
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine BBWAA guys trying to decide between Lohse and Dempster
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
His stats aren’t any better than before, except his HR/9IP is down, and his BABIP is a little lower than usual.
by mikeynaked on Jul 22, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
sorry I missed the first 3 innings.
by molitorfan on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if there is a story to Ned's necklace
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you knew anything about baseball...
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone said it was made out of wrecked NASCAR cars
So he ordered 200 on the spot.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ned refuses to get lapped
in the batting order.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
put some clothes on
we don’t want to see your “treat”;)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye perfect game?
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
second/third time through for lohse
hopefully the bats will wake up
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take that, Lohse!
We’re not in Hockeytown tonight!
by Rawiswar on Jul 22, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not really listening to them, but...
Did BA just call Kapler Ned’s primary pinch-hitter? I know Dillon went down, but even Counsell pinch hits more than Gabe.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe West is a dickhead
Sorry, but he is
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that that's not a strike, but this whole staring down players stuff
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he did a pretty good job there
of not eliciting the ejection by following him or talking back to him. I hate when umps do that.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Acknowledged
That was restraint for him.
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by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy
how much more down the middle do you want them?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really wonder if the Lasik would help him
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put in
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of the many things I don't get...
even more than why Suppan’s still in the rotation, is why Bill Hall starts against right handers.
By the way, Pags, is this better?
by mikeyclothed on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
In order to not upset anyone
Yes, it’s much better :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean
he got dressed or he didn’t?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly he did
But who really knows?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a prety good game yesterday
I wonder if Ned might let him start against certian right handers and keep Russ out against the ones with a good chnage up for instance.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's interesting
As noted by Al’s Ramblings, Piniero has a career reverse split (.782 OPS against by RHB, .735 OPS against by LHB). I kind of wish he would get to pitch against Ryan Ludwick to see what would happen.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Lohse has a big rh/lh split. My WAG is that he is showing that he believes in Billy and Rickie.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
You’re probably right. There’s some value in that.
by mikeyclothed on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got the electricity back after 3 hours, nasty storm,
saw the score and read all your comments. Sorta wish the power was still out! Should have known with Soup boy pitching. Does Ned realize there ain’t no meat in this Soup!!!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where are you located?
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
North Atlanta
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah there is.
There’s plenty of meat, pitches that is.
by kgaul on Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flipped to wgn
they’re having visual problems
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so...
Bill Hall is a camera tech and works the van too?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You honestly thought they kept him around just because of his talents?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard it's because his mom is an awesome cook
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watching suppan run
is too funny
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by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The opposite
of watching him pitch
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
by 80badger on Jul 22, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the three runs in five innings thing
And only having thrown ~70 pitches.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be honest
WHen I saw tonight’s match-up, I wasn’t too optimistic.
That said, Sup’s only given up 3 in 5, but I didn’t think the offense would tank this bad against Lohse.
I bet everyone must say that, though.
by mikeyclothed on Jul 22, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was positive!
Man…
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could we please score some runs
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe tomorrow
because CC will hit a homer
by molitorfan on Jul 22, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also positive
the offense has really cut down on the runners left on base
by friendo on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
by not getting on base
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
darn fielder
had to ruin it with his hit
by friendo on Jul 22, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guessing
...based on level of activity here = cards (or cubs) fan?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
brewers. just don’t post/have computer access too often
by friendo on Jul 22, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem
I shivered a little when you thought that
by friendo on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get some benefit of the doubt for the name
You have to crop this and make it your avatar, though:

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finally
cards getting a taste of the at-em balls the brewers are getting
by Wayfaerer on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know things aren't going well for Suppan
because he is constantly being sold by the pregame, by Brian and Bill, et cetera. Come to think of it, I haven’t heard “innings eater” though.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you weren't listening then
bill mentioned it
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
though
i dont blame you for not listening to schroeder
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall who mentioned it yesterday
But I would also like to see Cirillo take his place.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when the durham trade was made
i wondered if it would have been better just to bring back cirillo.
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
probably would get comparable results, plus we could just move him to 2nd or 3rd when he would be done pitching, saving Counsell for the true grit situation.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I haven't seen Rivera play
in about 2 months.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You said it!
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That comment the other day
about him being in a glass case with the “Do Not Break Unless Kendall Emergency” is only to fitting.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be like Jim Powell
Bob Gibson wouldn’t have been caught dead giving up three runs in six innings, so it’s a mediocre start.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
there’s no prepended word before “quality” such as high.
there is a certain quality to that start, I just didn’t like it:)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim is getting disturbingly strident lately
He’s veering pretty close to Brennaman territory.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Gibbons
Doesn’t get his own post???
Get excited people.
by Braun Holio on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It was fanshotted
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fanshotted sounds like a dirty word.
go get em' seth!
by Jamie in LA on Jul 22, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...took me a while
i was thinking you meant that he didn’t understand his own blog post
and I was thinking “Jay Gibbons has a blog?” followed by “Who is Jay Gibbons again?”
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he probably
doesn’t get his own post. Doesn’t look like a scholar.
by molitorfan on Jul 22, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gibbons' blog
Makes me think of monkeys on typewriters (keyboards, I guess)
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If David Dellucci has a blog, why not Gibbons?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lohse still under 70 pitches – could pitch tomorrow as well.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS
we have an extra base hit!
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Double, infield hit
What’s going on?
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Brewers!
(ClapClapCLAPCLAPCLAP)
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does the bold
have a hidden meaning?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielder
Should get a grand slam here
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
I guess that’s okay too
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda difficult
unless a fan streaks the field and takes third
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Jeff when you need him most?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright prince!
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very nice approaches!
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon kapler
lets keep the BA > 300
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Robinaid
I went an opened my Robinaid and got a glass at the JJ at bat. Now I feel I have to drink the entire bottle to get a win.
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard Robinade?
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like your girlfriend
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm out..
And to lazy to walk down the street to the grocery store. Or I’d be enjoying a Rockin Robin.
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yountini?
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Cosmo Yountin
Someone photoshop this yellow:

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not without a 15 year old girl he won't
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For a year I thought that's what "Trapped in the Closet" was
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that like a Molitor and water?
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian actually made a really good point in Gabe's ab
Regarding how umps usually give a little more on the outside corner because they are set up on the inside corner between the catcher and batter. Never really thought about that, but it makes a lot of sense.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is much more pronounced to left handed batters
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that due to an eye dominance of the ump?
in which case, any left eye dominant umps out there?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea
It is true for almost every umpire though. Tim McClellan(sp?) is very even to LHB and RHB but he is in the minority. If you have any info on the handedness of umpires let me know because that correlates well to eye dominance too.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, me too
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is why
none of us are professional ball players
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and being completely uncoordinated.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hand eye coordination...
is directly related to eye dominance vs handedness;)
I blame that
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never really tried hitting opposite handed
Technically I should be a better hitter that way, once I got comfortable swinging “backwards”. One thing is for sure, I probably couldn’t do any worse.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can...
play racketball left handed, and am working on tennis. But I could never “get” baseball backwards, even if it is just like a tennis backhand.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm naturally left-handed
maybe that is why my backhand is by far my most effective shot.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
that is definitely the reason I’m not getting payed to play.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That shouldn't be too hard for someone or some group that watches a ton of games
Just watch how they throw balls to the pitcher.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I probably could...
i just couldn’t participate on the date collection…
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can watch any previous game on mlbtv right?
It would probably be fairly easy to look what games each ump was behind home and just skim through to find that info.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to go out on a limb
and say that information is probably not recorded anywhere (won’t say definitely not recorded because theJay’s power’s may prove me wrong).
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs losing 1-0 now
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice take, Billy!
Did he have LASIK?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, theJay, you weren't exactly right but this is close
Suppan in the 7th
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd almost go as far as to say
That if they score 2 in that inning, they’d pull it out.
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called the one run
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You win uh… uh… a Jay Unit of ? Prescience maybe – a JUP
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Cards can rub off a little of their recent late inning come back magic on the Brewers.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So random thing
Fukudome is really struggling right now. Average under .280, OPS under .800. He still is taking walks but he really needs to hit for more power or he could be in a bit of trouble. Maybe the book on him is out.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s got his own version of the ugly K. That whirlybird thing while whiffing looks ridiculous.
by ol Pete on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards announcers are suggesting that Izzy might come in to close this one,
So there is hope.
by Braun Holio on Jul 22, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was checking him out today on a couple of plots
His DL stint didn’t change anything and his curve is still totally being tipped compared to league average. His curveball hump is one of the largest in the game and he is getting few swings and misses with it.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially if
izzy = izturis and not isringhousen (or whatever:P)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to listen to anything too seriously
I have had to listen to the Sharp TV ad about 50 times through MLB.TV
by Braun Holio on Jul 22, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is only slightly less nauseating
Than the continuous loop for “The Final Season” I endured last year.
by Braun Holio on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta hand it to Suppan
Held ‘em to 3 runs in 7 innings. After what they did to the Padres, I can’t really complain.
Let’s get some runs!
by mikeyclothed on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
eat
a lot of spicy, fatty foods
that should do it
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Branyan
Take back your starting spot against RHP with a HR here.
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by TheJay on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol at a headline on MLB
“A’s struggles not related to trade talks”
Is it related to the actual trades because I think they clearly took a step back, at least this year, with the trades.
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about
“A’s trades related to team struggles”
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like
“Beane makes sure A’s draft higher with trades”
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
One rec for you
by dixieflatline on Jul 22, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope
his true skills show right here.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bam!!!
He’s just a run scorer.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe...
he weaves hypnotically when he’s on the basepaths, causing the batters to see the ball better.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rickie!
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 22, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
alright rickie!
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Ray!
Once again the Grit challenge has worked on Rick.
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
“The Durham Effect”
I am pro-Cameron
by Lake County on Jul 22, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rally caps
down a run with the power coming up (whether this inning or next)
by molitorfan on Jul 22, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK....
MY RALLY CAPS IS ON.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JJ!!!!
"Maybe the universe was trying to tell us something with the Chicago Fire." -Former Cubs Fan Steve
by Michael M on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOO!!!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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