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Game Thread #103: Astros (46-55) at Brewers (59-43)

Mordecai_brown_tiny by Jeff Sackmann on in Game Threads

The Marlins have done their part--a Jeremy Hermida home run and a scoreless ninth from Kevin Gregg put away the Cubs and moved the Brewers within a half-game of the division lead. 

So, if the Crew wins tonight, we'll have a share of the division lead, and unless Tampa Bay wins first, we'll be the 4th team in the majors (second in the league, of course) to 60 wins. 

But, first things first.  The Astros are getting off relatively easy--since Sheets and Sabathia are lined up to face both the Cardinals (that worked well, huh?) and the Cubs, Houston gets Parra, Suppan, and the short half of McBush.  Tonight it's Parra, and the Astros counter with Wandy Rodriguez.  Wandy has had a nice season (3.31 ERA is 80+ innings) despite a few rough outings lately.

Let's hope Miller Park is more favorable to the Astros/Parra matchup than the juice box is--we're dealing with small samples, but Berkman, Lee, Tejada, and Wigginton all have 940+ OPSs against Manny.

Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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Who's turn to win the game tonight?

Obviously a team effort, but does anyone want to put a name out there?

I don’t think it’s a HR tonight, but a RBI double by Prince! Last night I called the Braun HR, if I am right tonight I am buying a lottery ticket.

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jul 25, 2008 5:04 PM CDT   0 recs

The lineup

2B Rickie Weeks
SS JJ Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
P Manny Parra

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jul 25, 2008 5:05 PM CDT   0 recs

A little surprised to Hart there after last night

Also does anyone think we will see Rivera in this series? Otherwise it could mean only 2 games off this month for Kendall
I am assuming we will need maximum grit behind the plate for the the Cubs series

by Saltire on Jul 25, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised if he started the day game on Sunday

Not only has he caught Suppan a couple times this year, but neither he nor Kendall has ever faced Randy Wolf, so it’s not like there’s a matchup reason to keep Kendall in there.

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"We're only playing .575 ball. That isn't championship stuff." - Hal Trosky, 1940

by TheJay on Jul 25, 2008 5:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am thinking Weeks, Braun, Kendall will have off days on Sunday

Just got to have that Sunday lineup in there… Braun didn’t get much rest during the all-star break… and Kendall needs to be fresh to face his old teammates

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jul 25, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

except Durham 0/12 vs Wolf

So probably Weeks

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jul 25, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I like how that's the "No. 1 lineup (arguably)" for the Brewers

According to Anthony Witrado at least. I wonder if that’s an ongoing thing for him or if he just felt like saying it without any explanation.

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"We're only playing .575 ball. That isn't championship stuff." - Hal Trosky, 1940

by TheJay on Jul 25, 2008 5:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Forgetting something?

Uh, can we get a “L” flag flown in here, or is the prudent, anti-superstition-jinx theory hold that it’s not, ahem, necessary.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 25, 2008 5:28 PM CDT   0 recs

It was flown in the Frosty Mug thread

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"We're only playing .575 ball. That isn't championship stuff." - Hal Trosky, 1940

by TheJay on Jul 25, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kreskin

Wow, that’s some forward thinking. No, I get what you’re saying.

Is there a rule against repeating it? The thing just looks so dang purdy.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 25, 2008 5:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

There's already a FanShot with it, too, for whatever reason

It’s exciting and all to have a shot to end up tied for first, but I don’t see the point of having it in three different places. Maybe we should find a picture of a marlin winning…well, whatever it is marlins win.

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"We're only playing .575 ball. That isn't championship stuff." - Hal Trosky, 1940

by TheJay on Jul 25, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

I clicked over and checked it out, kind of like how someone might admire a Picasso hanging in a museum. Beautiful.

OK, that urge has been satisfied. Let’s go Crew!

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 25, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tenuous at best, but...

By the way…if you need Cliff’s Notes to get through The Old Man and the Sea, it’s time to put down the bong.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 6:38 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

clever!

In the Federal League, the Chicago franchise was called the Whales … now that one, you might need Cliff’s Notes for.

(I, however, am a nerd, and have read Moby-Dick multiple times. In case, uh, you didn’t know I was a nerd.)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow...

color me impressed…you really are a renaissance man

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 6:47 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can tell that's true, because you hyphenated it

I only read it once. The chapters along the lines of describing the different kinds of whales really killed me.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

but it's all a metaphor for America!

And the people on the ship itself!

And it’s pre-post-modern!

Dude, dork it out with me!

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh man

I spent five years in college arguing that James K. Polk was our third best president…I’m nerded out…

Or I never read Moby Dick…however, if you want to discuss the Brother Karamazov, there’s a discussion I can tackle.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know enough about Polk

to really engage you in that discussion, but I know enough to know there’s a case to be made :).

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...

I eventually came to the realization that he was our fourth best president:

1) Lincoln
2) Washington
3) FDR
4) Polk

Okay, I’m done…I need a nerdiness break

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

where is

Wendy Selig-Prieb?

by molitorfan on Jul 25, 2008 7:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The more I read

the further down FDR goes.

But that’s a can of worms best left closed while a game’s going on.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps so...

I’m a bulldog defending FDR, and I’ve got myself a shiny new History degree

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear

after he would sign a good bill into law he would just stare at it and then untuck his shirt.

by molitorfan on Jul 25, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up   3 recs

rec'd

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha, I'm not saying I didn't appreciate it

And parts of it were brilliant. But parts of it were impossible to imagine reading again. I guess I could just skip them, it’s not like they’re integral to the plot.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, but Nerds come in many different stripes.

I’ve only read Moby Dick once and I suck at math.

But I own 7 different editions of the Lord of the Rings in 3 languages.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 25, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

touche

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Is one of them Elven?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 8:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Marlins do win, sometimes.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know we're supposed to assume the sweep and all

But what are the expectations for this series? I’d be happy with 2 of 3. It’ll be interesting to see how Dave Bush pitches tomorrow on 15 days’ rest.

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"We're only playing .575 ball. That isn't championship stuff." - Hal Trosky, 1940

by TheJay on Jul 25, 2008 5:31 PM CDT   0 recs

yeah, 2 out of 3 would be great.

Honestly, I can’t get that worked up about leaderboard watching right now. Cliche alert: there’s a whole lot of baseball left to be played.

If the Brewers play .600 ball the rest of the way (probably not even—550 would be leading the WC right now), we’ll be in the playoffs. Doesn’t matter what anybody else does. If the Cubs want to swoon now, great. If they want to get rolling again now and then swoon in August, or September, that’s fine too.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 5:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm assuming the sweep.

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

I am anti-Cameron.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 25, 2008 6:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

my predictions for tomorrow

Bush, not surprisingly, does not work well at all on 15 days rest and needs to be removed in the 2nd inning.

Tomorrow will be a lovely day; the roof will be open and it will be a delightful 70 degrees, with partly cloudy skies—the sort of day that is just designed to make Seth McClung perform at his best.

Ned will put in Carlos Villanueva; McClung will not pitch until the road trip.

by morineko on Jul 25, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Never assume a sweep...

I’d like 2 out of 3. For some reason Bache tomorrow seems like we’ll come up short.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 25, 2008 6:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

no matter what happens

either the Brewers or Cubs will be able to pass each other in the standings with the series starting on Monday.

by molitorfan on Jul 25, 2008 6:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

True but it would good to be ahead by the end of that series

It might put a bit of pressure on the Cubs after being in 1st for so long.

by Saltire on Jul 25, 2008 6:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hate to break out the term "classy" again...

But classy move by FSN Wisconsin to do Brewers Live from Wisconsin Dells. I heard a rather depressing report on NPR this morning with a waitress at a restaurant in Lake Delton who sounded about ready to cry when it was mentioned there were only two patrons in the restaurant at noon. Hopefully the publicity gets that girl some more tips.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 6:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Yeah,

Hard to say that story doesn’t have an agenda. Not much analysis beyond a snapshot of a struggling family. Seems more at home on the Nation.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 6:57 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

But then again

It’s hard to argue that the Dells isn’t devestated by what happened earlier this year. They’re handing out half price tickets to Noah’s Ark just to get people to stay at the hotels. Bad situation, and it’s good to see the Brewers trying to do some in-state PR for the area.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

NPR again?!

I thought you were joking when you said you read it daily!

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

um

that’s the same link I sent you before.

it was easy to find because it’s only url in my browser history that starts with “npr” :).

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They have their own internet protocol now?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you didn't know?

the east coast cognoscenti doesn’t get their political news via http, it’s all npr.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice article

but did they really need “enlarge” under that picture?? I mean really ;-))

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jul 25, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why are birdies a big thing to celebrate but puppies a little one?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:00 PM CDT   0 recs

Cirillo: "Obviously being up on that parasail was awesome."

Obviously.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:03 PM CDT   0 recs

looks like it is crazy there...

wish i could be there….

go get em' seth!

by Jamie in LA on Jul 25, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

You could be on a jet-ski

and fast…like Rickie Weeks

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jeff is this how I'm supposed to do it

Three cheers for Jeremy Hermida!

How can you not love Carsten Charles?

by grobbins on Jul 25, 2008 7:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Hip Hip!

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:06 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

Haha, yes, that's how you're supposed to do it

Three times is enough now, though.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Debbie Downer

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

I am anti-Cameron.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 25, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hooray!

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

I am anti-Cameron.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 25, 2008 7:07 PM CDT   0 recs

Hip Hip

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hooray!

Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.

I am anti-Cameron.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 25, 2008 7:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hip Hip!

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Pirates traded

Nady and Marte away, no details on where or for whom.

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jul 25, 2008 7:08 PM CDT   0 recs

mlb.com
Though unconfirmed, the Yankees have been speculated as being on the other side of the deal.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Team effort to educate!

The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Jul 25, 2008 7:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Will Carroll concurs.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Any word on what they gave up?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 25, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Bucs Dugout thinks Phil Coke (who?).

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

the deal is listed in the SI article

Ohlendorf, Coke, Tabata + one more.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

looks like a decent deal for both sides.

might be a lot to give up, but it mostly depends on how much you like Tabata.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tabata and Ohlendorf are at least interesting

I think that’s a pretty smart trade for the Pirates, as opposed to usual, when they’d be trading FOR Nady.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

weird to think that Nady was basically a scrap-heaper the Pirates overpaid for not that long ago.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 25, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Rotoworld is apparently reporting Austin Jackson

THAT would be interesting.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh man

Yankees fans would NOT be happy with that.

by molitorfan on Jul 25, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They updated their report

It’s Tabata/Ohlendorf/chaff

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 25, 2008 7:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs