Wednesday's Frosty Mug
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 30, 2008 8:54 AM CDT
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PrintSo, if the Brewers don't manage to win the next two and salvage a split of this series, will this be the most disappointing home series in Brewer history?
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So Ben Sheets didn't have it last night. It happens. I was about ready to give Sheets and Yost the benefit of the doubt before Brewers Bar made me realize that Sheets' entire 6th inning meltdown last night took place without a single mound visit. This is your ace we're talking about, in the 6th inning. I can understand not wanting to pull him, since it is only the 6th with no outs, but he gave up 7 straight hits...don't you at least want to go calm him down?
Complaining about Cubs fans seems to be en vogue today, and they probably deserve it. Viva Cerveceros recounts a post-arrest story, and The Brew Town Beat missed an opportunity to prevent a moron from reproducing last night as well.
On the flip side, The View From the Bleachers doesn't like Ryan Braun, because he's smug and cocky. I was going to retaliate here by calling Carlos Zambrano a hotheaded dick, especially after he stared down Ray Durham going back to the dugout last night after a strikeout in an at-bat where Durham was injured on a foul ball. Classy.
But I've decided not to go that route, since Cub fans have been tortured enough. They've gone 100 years since they won a World Series, and there will be a World Series banner hanging in "Wrigley Field North" before there's one in the real thing.
Ray Durham left the game in the seventh and is day-to-day, by the way.
On to other things: CC Sabathia took out an ad in the Cleveland Plain Dealer to thank Indians fans for their support. If you click the link, you can see the full ad. It's a classy move.
And if you're sick of Brewer-Cub nonsense and would like to take a break for a few minutes before it resumes again tonight (or in the comments of this post momentarily), go read Battlekow's post ranking Brewer prospects. I routinely defeat Battlekow at Boggle, but he knows a lot more about prospects than I do, so it evens out.
On injuries:
Hank Blalock has been placed on the DL for the 3rd time this season, this time with shoulder inflammation.
Twins 2B Alexi Casilla has been placed on the DL with torn ligaments in his thumb.
Pirates 1B Adam LaRoche has been placed on the DL with a rib injury.
Mets SP John Maine has a strained rotator cuff but may make his next start anyway.
Scott Podsednik has hit the DL with a broken pinky finger.
Ichiro singled to lead off last night's Mariners game and now has 3,000 hits between Japan and MLB, with 1722 coming on this side of the Pacific. Plus, the M's won to reach eight games over .300.
Blue Jays C Gregg Zaun isn't getting to play as much as he'd like and is asking to be traded. He's only gotten 211 plate appearances in 2008. That's 168 more plate appearances than Mike Rivera.
Three Cardinal minor leaguers have been busted for PED use. Maybe every system has 3 users in it, or more, but how many guys busted from one system at one time before it becomes an organizational problem?
Oh, and if you missed it yesterday, apparently there's still a woot-off today.
Drink up.
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Hey, I can agree with you on Zambrano
He is out of control sometimes, and breaking his bat last night was no exception. We do like him though since he pitches so well, and comes through with some big hits as well sometimes. Thanks for the heads up on the woot-off.
I really don't want to argue Cubs/Brewers anymore, but I can't pass this up..
Evidently they love us at Bleed Cubbie Blue
... that in the same thread someone says that “jihad” might be offensive. It’s actually a joke, in part because of this:
And for anyone that didn’t se the fanshot, Mark Texiera got traded to the Angels for Casey Kotchman and a minor league pitching prospect.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Yeah, that whole section there is ridiculous
But to be sure, most of us do not agree with or like that line of thinking and Al corrected him for it (and rightfully so). His comments about Pete are completely out of line, and like another poster said, Pete stays over here so let it go. Some of us at Bleed Cubbie Blue really just want to have some good discussion and avoid the back and forth jabs though, I promise.
Just had to put that out there
I understand that’s an isolated viewpoint. It’s probably best for Cub fans, in general, to stay out of our game thread after we take a tough loss and they win. Especially when they’re just trying to instigate animosity… real mature!
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
"Some of us at Bleed Cubbie Blue really just want to have some good discussion"
Amazing how that sort of activity picks up after a Cubs win. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but if people can’t see how going to a site where people cheer for the team you’ve just beaten and gloating might rub folks the wrong way, they’ve got issues.
Remember, Brewers fans are apparently the ones who need to chill out to make it a friendly rivalry.
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"we just want to have some good discussion...
...so to start, let’s discuss how bad your team sucks compared to ours, and how all your players are jerks and are terrible. why does that make you upset? it’s discussion!”
I've been coming over here this week...
...because I usually peruse opponents’ sites when we play them, especially the Brewers. This site is great for Brewer info, and I do find myself reading it more when Brewers/Cubs are playing than at other times. So, TheJay, I guess that’s my reasoning for coming over here a bit more this week, for what it’s worth.
I’ll keep my mouth shut if we win, in retrospect it probably wasn’t the best idea to come over last night right after the game, but am still happy to chat after we lose.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I get why people are visiting
It’s how people bring their victory celebration here and then are upset they weren’t treated nicely that boggles me. If you want to come over and talk, fine, but don’t expect a red carpet because your team won.
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by TheJay on Jul 30, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had a roomate in college at Madison who was a Viking fan....
Whenever the Packers played the Vikings we would make sure not to be around each other. He was a good friend and a nice guy but it would just be a recipe for an argument. Emotions run high after a game.
After the first couple times of watching a game together we figured out that giving each other space on those days was a better idea! :)
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
But nothing says class and sportsmanship
like kicking a dog when it’s down. How else is everybody gonna get their kicks?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
thanks for posting that link - it brightened my day
Like every thread there, its a lot of bickering and nonsense. I forget whether it was the same genius who thought you were using terrorist terminology and did a quick field evaluation and deemed me retarded. I wonder how many decades its been since the term retarded was used in a clinical setting.
Ribbon Boards
Were back to normal last night. I’m still curious as to why there were no stats running on Monday night.
I was lucky and landed in a big group of Brewers fan, so I was insulated by about 6 rows all around. There was another old gentlemen mocking people with Wrigley North and “W”. I thought older baseball fans were supposed to be cool. The one 2 rows back was pretty cool. Ass hattery in Loges 1st base side wasn’t as bad as normal.
Disappointing start. We can still come out where we entered and I’d be happy for that. To bad we gifted game one to the Cubs and then laid an egg last night.
As a Wisconsite living in Chicago...
I have alot of friends who are Cubs fans, or are Bears fans. They are perfectly normal and fine human beings.
I went to the Brewers game vs. the Astros on Sunday and I sat down to a lovely family from Chicago who were Cubs fans. They were really nice, respectul, and a pleasure to talk to during the game. Most Cubs fans..hell most fans of sports are decent folk.
I really think road games really bring out that “asshat” contingent that every fanbase probably has. The Cubs travel well…and that means a larger number of asshats. It rankles Brewers fans because I perceive that this small percentage of Cubs fans seem to think that they invented being a baseball fan. That nobody could love their team as much as they love the Cubs.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions
That reminds me when I was at the Packers Christmas Game. Ended up sitting next to a bunch of Bears fans. They were actually cool, discussed football. We didn’t’ rip on each other except friendly casual ripping. Was very enjoyable actually. But a section over, good god. Your average drunken entitled dbag.
Anyways, you are right. The asshat numbers are up simply because of sheer volume. Add into that, the “Wrigley North” fade, and you see why asshats travel up here. Because they think it’s fun to mock other teams fan base. And they’ve been so effective with it, that a good number of Brewers fans won’t go because they want an enjoyable night. Then our drunken dbags show up in force to “stand up” against the invading hordes of Cub dbag fans and bam… fist fights and beer tossing.
I’m just surprised there isn’t as big of a back lash against the shitty fans. No matter which side. As I stated in a thread yesterday, I was embarrassed by a few fans down in St Louis (Especially the one sweeping the dug out… dude don’t be a dick) and I hope other Brewer fans felt the same.
Fine, you come in mass. (Thanks for giving us your money!) But at least have SOME respect for your hosts. I just more of their own fans would police their own. I saw a few of it, but it was only because Cops were starting to lurk.
with a few exceptions I'd have to say your right
I haven’t been to a Cubs – Brewers game at Miller Park this year but I have done so in the past and I’ve usually managed to run into a few people who I’m embarrassed to be associated with. When I was in St. Louis earlier in the season for a Cubs – Cardinals game I saw quite a few of those people.
I’ve had fun following the Cubs on the road, but I keep it simple. I grab a hot dog. a beer, and a scorecard and I sit back and watch the game. If the Cubs do something good I cheer. If they aren’t I’m quiet. If someone around me asks a legit question I talk to them. Otherwise I just stay to myself.
Unfortunately, a lot of traveling fans (regardless of team allegiance) don’t adhere to that rule and that’s what causes problems.
BTW: I’ve had some really good conversations with Brewers fans up at Miller Park. I was there last Saturday and had a really good time and and I am looking forward to going back up there September 28th for the regular season finale.
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That was a really neat ad by CC...
...I’ve always liked him. He’s a class act.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Geoff Jenkins took out a similar ad in Milwaukee when he was let go after last season
That was a nice gesture, too.
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C.C. is an awesome guy
and that ad shows it
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
CC was on Jim Rome yesterday
You have to register to listen to it. But it’s online now. I only caught the last 2 minutes of it. But Rome tried to goat him into saying we had a questionable bullpen. And he also talked about signing.
CC did say he was open to possibly a discount to stay some place. but it sounds like the Indians and CC were pretty far apart from what the discount was.
Yes, I listened to this yesterday live and posted some of his comments on the Cubs site. Here are the notes I took and posted over there:
CC on Rome:
—"Electric" crowd, he pulled up to Miller and the parking lot was already packed with tailgaters
—Said he didn’t have his best stuff last night, went 2 strikes to a lot of guys, but couldn’t close it
—Rome asked about high pitch counts, CC said during the course of a season sometimes you just can’t get em
—Asked about staying in Milwaukee, CC focused on this year and helping the team winning
—CC says he "LOVES IT" when it comes to batting
—Rome asked bout Braun and how he admires his own work a bit too much…CC doesn’t think he admires his homers too much, "it’s just apart of the game…when you’re hitting them as far as he’s been hitting ‘em, you can admire em".
—Rome asks bout bullpen, CC says he doesn’t try to pitch CGs because of the bullpen, but because his pitch count isn’t high enough to come out; doesn’t think there is a problem with the Brewer bullpen: "It looks solid."
I like CC, he’s a good ballplayer, well-versed, and seems like a nice guy.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Cards minor leaguers who were busted
Just wanted to mention the 3 guys were teenagers in the Dominican league. Not making excuses as a Cards fan, just thought it was worth pointing out that these are guys not really under the team’s watch.
At any rate, good luck to the Brewers tonight. :)
That's all well and good, but tell us the important info
Were their shirts tucked in?
by Getting Yosted on Jul 30, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This is pretty funny
Jason Giambi was none too pleased with the Orioles’ shift last night.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
They're playing him to pull
So he decided to show them up by pulling the ball?
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he just pulled it more than they anticipated...
my question is, why wasn’t the shortstop there for the play?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Some kind of weird cosmic coincidence
While the Cubs were injuring Ray Durham up at Miller Park, opening the door for Rickie Weeks’ return, Jemile Weeks was being injured down at Wrigley.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Check out this blog post for info on the Canadian Juniors team and how Brett Lawrie is winning Brewers fans north of the border. Canada slaughtered PR yesterday, including an inside-the-park HR for Lawrie, who I think has two homers and four triples in four games now.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Dennis Sarfate's first ML start did not go that well
4 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 3 H, 5 K, 1 HR, 68 pitches
Still, he only allowed five baserunners, and struck out five. I’m still pissed we just gave him away.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
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