Game Thread #108: Cubs (63-44) at Brewers (60-47)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 5:15 PM CDT
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PrintChicago Cubs at Milwaukee Brewers, Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
Looking at the big picture of the second half, this isn't so bad. I said before the Cards series started that we'd do well to get out of these 11-game sequence going 6-5. I didn't expect we'd get four of those wins against St. Louis, but I still hold to my original belief--it's rough to be three games back three days after reaching a tie atop the division, but if we've hit a rough spot now, we were unexpectedly streaking only five days ago.
In other words, one of the next two games would make me happy. With Rich Harden going tomorrow, it's a little silly to set the bar higher.
Today's matchup is a pair of pleasant surprises (for their teams, anyway): Ryan Dempster and Manny Parra.
Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Now, a word about visitors during the Cubs series. When I woke up this morning, I was surprised to see nearly 200 comments that had been added to the game thread after the first pitch. Some of them were reasonable, but a whole lot of them were BCB regulars arguing about Cubs fans about who is and isn't trolling.
This is stupid. By now, we know full well that in a series like this, fans of the other team will show up. Some of them are obnoxious, others aren't. If they're obnoxious, IGNORE THEM. As they say, don't feed the trolls. I don't want to see another 30 comments that say, "you're a troll." That's just as bad as trolling itself. If you ignore them, they'll go away--often literally, since the other mods and I aren't shy about banning folks who clearly aren't here to play by the rules.
If you want to have a chat about the game or the season or whatever with a Cubs fan visitor, be my guest. If you're a visitor, and you're civil, I hope that we treat you more or less like everybody else--plenty of sarcasm without too much vitriol. (Yeah, we aren't all that nice to each other sometimes, either.)
Frankly, I was more disappointed by how some regulars acted in the thread last night than anything else. Let's all be mature adults here, even if some of us aren't adults, and some of us don't have much practice.
Go Brewers!
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kirbir's behavior was reprehensible
I mean, coming in and trying to be the peacemaker (by deflection), completely unacceptable!
I really haven’t seen the opposing club’s fans do anything truly awful when coming here. I actually think that the Cards guy complaining about Braun showboating and the shirt untuckage was initially worse than anything the Cub fans did yesterday. But that guy did come back the next day and post that he thought he had been unreasonable and all, so all was good:)
P.S. I agree Jeff :)
My mom always said I should go work for the UN
Guess I was trying it on for size
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
you and your obsession with size...
btw…i need to watch myself. I swear half of my posts mention you or battlekow…..
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
at least I'm not on my...
“whatever that is” kick
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just noticing that :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Jeff...
the adult part is fine, but I promise nothing on the mature end. I will make jokes at the expense of a lot of things. I can promise that I won’t make fun of other people though.
The Chubber Lang Report is back!!!
well, given the crowd here
(myself emphatically included) ...”mature” is a relative term.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I take it all back
Except for the part about hating Asians.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
i have bad news, dude
I think Erik Komatsu is asian.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Asian is a state of mind
And clearly he’s not in that state.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Also, please avoid insultingly spacing Fuk u do me
Posting that dead bear picture was probably a bit much, I admit. it was in response to a “Cubs Win” comment, but I probably provoked some more vitriol with that. You could do the same thing with Prince Fielder fat jokes at evil BCB, but we’re better than that.
In more exciting news, I inspired about a 30 comment exchange at Bizarro BCB about whether or not I am in fact a terrorist. I mentioned in the mug thread that it’s a joke, in part referencing this about Eric Gagne.
And I will not be baited by Cubs fans any more this series. We won’t have to because we’ll win both games anyway :).
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Jihad!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's turn the tables on them tonight!
By winning, I mean. Definitely not by offering select Cubs fans in the parking lot 3-on-1 beatdowns and then punching our sisters in the face. That, we should avoid.
Proudly rock your Tararrel in public.
Haha, wow
Some really awesome fan behavior lately, what with that, the birthday party beatdown, and the guy who set his own apartment on fire.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
This is precisely why I'm avoiding the game threads this series.
I know better than to hope I can behave myself in the face of our visitors.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
Reposting this from the Mug
Dennis Sarfate’s first ML start did not go that well: 4 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 3 H, 5 K, 1 HR, 68 pitches.
Still, he only allowed five baserunners, and struck out five. I’m still pissed we just gave him away.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Just to be on the safe side
I’m flagging every comment in this game thread, startinnnnnnng…now!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jul 30, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Flagged, you troll
hey, isn’t there a game on tonight?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Some would say there is
But I consider Project Runway more of a ‘reality competition’
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
The person eliminated tonight totally deserved to go (not that I um watched it or anything).
Coffee is for closers
wtf
you two chicks wanna go elsewhere?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Teams I would expect to trade for Manny Ramirez
1, 2, 3. Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, etc.
29. Yomiuri Giants
30. Nippon Ham Fighters
31. Green Bay Blizzard
32. Green Bay Bullfrogs
33. Seattle Supersonics
34. Florida Marlins
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Christ I go away for 4 days
And all hell breaks loose, So if we take the final two games who had the better series the Cubs for maintaining their one game lead at the start or the Brewers for getting up off the mat?
I was amazed even my quite little watering hole got a link from Those People over at well you know where amazing the same people who were ready to slit their own throat when they lost the second game of the Diamondbacks series are now ready to declare the division won. hmmmmm a lot of baseball left to be played
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
Bt the way, Gammons on ESPN earlier talking about this game....
Below his picture, ESPN headline reads:
“Cubs going for sweep of Brewers”
Am I wrong to think it’s a little early for that type of talk?
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Yeah well, it's ESPN.
They stopped requiring their employees to be able to count (or think) when Olberman left.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
As a cubs fan....
All I can say is it’s Gammons…. need I say more?
Hey guys:
I was over here last night, and I might check back, win or lose. I enjoy reading your stuff over here, too.
Anyway, as a white flag, here’s a heads up, one thing we can agree upon, hopefully:
Whittenmyer’s twittering about Erin Andrews a few minutes ago:
cst_cubs ESPN in the house—with lots of leg. Check out Erin Andrews’ game-day ensemble. 4 minutes ago from txt
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Hey Jeff:
I linked to your comments in the gamethread over at BCB if you’re interested in hearing responses from a few regulars. Good game to all tonight.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
thanks but no thanks
i’ve been over to the other BCB enough times and seen really nasty, usually inaccurate things said about me to EVER click on such a link again.
sorry.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But don't you want to see how he basically turned your admonishment...
... into an invitation for more Cub fans to come troll over here?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't trying to do that at all
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I have to say I was disappointed as well
sort of a free for all in here dominated by people you characterize as trolls
Okay, no biggie. Sorry to hear that.
I just thought it was worth of note to post your comments about how SBN is no longer meant to isolate blogs but allow fans to peruse other teams’. A few long-time regulars thought your comments were nice, that’s all.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
as usual
people are mistakenly accusing me of being nice.
those who know me know better.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
We all know that you are eating a baby right now...while polluting.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you.
finally, people understand me.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i think your intentions are good..
but i just havent understood anyone interest in going to blogs of teams they dont follow; or like for that matter.
believe me; what people say on other baseball blogs doesnt interest me at all… and, its kind of annoying to me to have to weed all this every time the brewers play the cubs.
i didnt post anything last night, btw. and this will be my last post on the topic. just MHO. : )
go get em' seth!
Well,
it’s nice to gauge opinions of your favorite team’s opposing fan base from time to time.
Again, to reiterate
And this isn’t aimed at you directly, but you’ll make a lot more headway with the whole, ”...but I’m just looking for some engaging conversation” thing if you show up after a Cubs loss or during the all star break or after the draft as oposed to IMMEDIATELY after a Cubs win.
The impression being that you mean to do exactly….um….not that.
However, if you truly mean that then hey what’s up…..but I’d be willing to bet you don’t just casually “drop by” when the Cubs are playing another team.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
dude.
this is played out.
we don’t need to have this conversation every time a cubs fan shows up. probably some of them are lying through their teeth, others are not.
whatever.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Apologize Jeff
literally my first comment on the subject…...I’m done. I wasn’t part of last night for exactly that reason.
Apologies to you and all again…..
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
The boogeyman tells his children about Jeff Sackmann
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
no prob.
just want to avoid going down that road again if we can help it.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree 200%....
(Though I thought I was being rather civil; I did say “what’s up”)
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
okay, but
I lurk on the central’s SBN Blogs when the cubs are playing that team. I don’t want to start arguments, but I really do want to see what the other fans are saying.
hence me using the term
LURK
goes back to the shadows
Awsome....
Welcome. There’s beer in the fridge :)
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Cub or not,
Soriano is entertaining to watch.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions
Not a gritty throw.....
Not a gritty throw at all.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Next thing you know....
he will be hitting home runs.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a terrible passed ball by Kendall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
You gotta be kidding me
DO OVER!!!!
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
He definitely should have caught it
As should have Kendall. That was just butcherous.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
wait...
is this the Red Sox series all over?
can someone light a fire under our asses before we lose this game? the next one?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
and in other news...
Gerald Laird is NOT in tonight’s starting lineup for Texas. Hmm.
/starts wild rumor
That's a bit wilder rumor than I had in mind
More that the Brewers have a round catcher deficit these days.
(Also I just was looking at the Red Sox PBP and their Catcher Named Jason isn’t doing too well tonight on defense, either.)
maybe Laird is involved in a three-way deal with the Marlins and Red Sox!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, I really should read up on these threads
I miss so many injokes by only reading down.
(And knowing the Rangers, they’ll try to call up Teagarden…from Beijing.)
Jeff Sackmann for Soylent Green:
It’s Delicious!
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
hey
cannabalism is a valid life choice.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Cannibals: the last group it's still safe to mock
When will we finally end this terrible reign of anti-cannibal prejudice?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
TURN BACK THE CLOCK NIGHT AT MILLER
Heartbreaking errors, listless offense, questionable managing…
it’s like 07 all over again!
That's OK...
I’m sure this Brewer offense will battle right back ….and…then….bah
I couldn’t even finish that sentence, sorry.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Win or lose....
I am drinking either way
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
Yesterday almost killed me
Sadly, I am not feeling healthy enough to join you.
by Braunstalker on Jul 30, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
dammit
i used to have a bottle of tequilla in my desk in my old lab. I need to get me a new one. Or find out if it’s still there at the old lab….
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a load of dirty words
in a bag of dirtier ones.
yeah
combination donut maker and drill press?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh...
nobody?
I guess i really am lame
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
2-1 would look awfully nice right now
...in Jeff’s belly.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
definitely something for me to chew on...
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Have to be consistent
If we’re going to give away runs playing defense, we have to give away outs playing offense
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
And for anyone that cares...
...w00t! just sold out of condoms VERY fast, and now they are selling a vibrator. w00t! has reached a new level of awesomeness.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
when i looked
they were just selling some lame UV level detector
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
We need to come up with the ultimate gritty mix drink...for these situations.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Fleishman's vodka
is a brand name…but there’s grit in there…
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
moonshine & rainwater mixed with sugar
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sugar dissolves
Use Grape Nuts instead. Those things are freaking rocks.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
okay...
my question is, how did you two think of the same phrase simultaneously?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
see
I would have said something like “back at you beeatches”
not got all Shakespearian…
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just going to mention the Bard earlier when I coined "butcherous"
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Turnbow has hair spray?
I guess I would have assumed…
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Now THIS feels like 2007
Which NL Central team can out-suck the competition
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
The Brewers can suck a bowling ball through a garden hose
Top that, Cubs!
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Tire them out...all that baserunning
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 30, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions
So......
7-0 on the last road trip and now 1-5 on this home stand?
Anyone else eager to get out on the road again?
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Speaking of people eating people
CC Sabathia says Braun looks delicious. Kirbir enthusiastically agrees.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Not to be a downer....but
2nd worst BA with RISP in the NL.
Will we ever get another hit in that situation?
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Anybody think that...
...back in the day Soriano would have gotten his block knocked off for standing so far over the plate and using that rediculous bat?
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
I think back in the day he would have been barred from playing Major League baseball because he's dark-skinned
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
That would really hurt this Cubs team...
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Debbie Downer.
“Back in the day” doesn’t HAVE to mean pre-Jackie Robinson.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
A guy getting plunked is overly romantic?
You must have interesting dating habits.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
And he still would have been fun to watch.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
At least JJ still knows how play defense
Can we get another JJ at 2nd please?
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
perhaps
We could’ve won the gam on Monday then…
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Turns out Craig Counsell is like cable.
You pay for all of it whether you use it or not. So any additional use out of Counsell you get is really free of charge at this point.
Just the limbs, please
The rest is probably too wide to swallow.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I've been gone for a month only to come back, find the Brewers playing great and tied
with the Cubs. Only for them to play like crap ever sence. I suppose its my fault. I should probably leave for the rest of the season too.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
The umps are taking cues...
from the NBA this series…
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe its the Bill theory. Dempster throwing strikes and ends up getting a few out of the zone calls. Manny doesn’t look sharp at all and no love from blue.
Here's a novel idea...
call it a strike if its a strike…I used to umpire, it’s really not that f’ing hard to see a f’ing strike…That pitch to HALL, is NOT A STRIKE, SO DON’T CALL IT
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If you think he's mad now, try praising Reagan in his presence
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
yeah dude
and fdr can suck it.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Sig-worthy.
I’ve been chuckling over this post on and off for a half hour now.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
here's a novel idea...
if a president isn’t a good president, don’t call them a good president…AND RONALD REAGAN WAS NOT A GOOD PRESIDENT!
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...reaction seems about the same
Don’t make me break out Gerald Ford.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Gerald Ford
was a class act…
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, the lady bid two bits
I’m contractually required to let you go.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Does it piss anyone else off that there is a Cubs fan behind the plate?
And he almost just pooped his pants with joy that Hall struck out.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
I'm having enough time to read a game thread for...
the first time in ~two weeks and it feels like I’ve missed the development of at least another 47 running jokes here (the running joke that is the Brewers defense not included)...
I don't think the defense moves fast enough to be a running joke
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sinatro is back
I heard an interview with him the other day. He sounded like a great guy, but then maybe so was Curly.
How does Fukudome not break his ankles when he swings?
He looks like one of those softball hitters who runs away from the plate while swinging.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
JJ!
Seriously, can he just play the whole infield please?
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jul 30, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions
How to create hits
Use the Coshun effect or have Bill say something that can be immediately contradicted
I was so scared before when he was talking about how long its been sence
Parra had given up a home run.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
a) unusual tatoo
b) first thought Tryptophan…but not quite that
c) not caffeine either….
so…wtf?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose the proper response would have been...
I’ll take THAT up again!
If you know what I mean
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Parra needs to do more in this game
if he wants to win this game. Maybe he can sweep up the stands and cook the postgame meal after this one. Jeez…..
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Freeing up the bullpen catcher to go to the zoo again!
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I never thought I'd say this but...
how many times are we going to strand out pitcher in scoring position?
Taken from the wrong context,
hearing “Soriano is smoking hot” just makes everyone just a little uncomfortable. Thanks Brian.
Probably was shading Theriot quite a bit.
Theriot has a very… pronounced hit chart. Hart probably had to run a lot farther than what you’re seeing on that shot (dunno what ESPN/FSN WI is showing).