Game Thread #108: Cubs (63-44) at Brewers (60-47)
Chicago Cubs @ Milwaukee Brewers
Looking at the big picture of the second half, this isn't so bad. I said before the Cards series started that we'd do well to get out of these 11-game sequence going 6-5. I didn't expect we'd get four of those wins against St. Louis, but I still hold to my original belief--it's rough to be three games back three days after reaching a tie atop the division, but if we've hit a rough spot now, we were unexpectedly streaking only five days ago.
In other words, one of the next two games would make me happy. With Rich Harden going tomorrow, it's a little silly to set the bar higher.
Today's matchup is a pair of pleasant surprises (for their teams, anyway): Ryan Dempster and Manny Parra.
Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Now, a word about visitors during the Cubs series. When I woke up this morning, I was surprised to see nearly 200 comments that had been added to the game thread after the first pitch. Some of them were reasonable, but a whole lot of them were BCB regulars arguing about Cubs fans about who is and isn't trolling.
This is stupid. By now, we know full well that in a series like this, fans of the other team will show up. Some of them are obnoxious, others aren't. If they're obnoxious, IGNORE THEM. As they say, don't feed the trolls. I don't want to see another 30 comments that say, "you're a troll." That's just as bad as trolling itself. If you ignore them, they'll go away--often literally, since the other mods and I aren't shy about banning folks who clearly aren't here to play by the rules.
If you want to have a chat about the game or the season or whatever with a Cubs fan visitor, be my guest. If you're a visitor, and you're civil, I hope that we treat you more or less like everybody else--plenty of sarcasm without too much vitriol. (Yeah, we aren't all that nice to each other sometimes, either.)
Frankly, I was more disappointed by how some regulars acted in the thread last night than anything else. Let's all be mature adults here, even if some of us aren't adults, and some of us don't have much practice.
Go Brewers!
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i have a good feeling about # 108!
go get em' seth!
by Jamie in LA on Jul 30, 2008 5:23 PM CDT 0 recs
kirbir's behavior was reprehensible
I mean, coming in and trying to be the peacemaker (by deflection), completely unacceptable!
I really haven’t seen the opposing club’s fans do anything truly awful when coming here. I actually think that the Cards guy complaining about Braun showboating and the shirt untuckage was initially worse than anything the Cub fans did yesterday. But that guy did come back the next day and post that he thought he had been unreasonable and all, so all was good:)
P.S. I agree Jeff :)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2008 5:24 PM CDT 0 recs
My mom always said I should go work for the UN
Guess I was trying it on for size
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on
Jul 30, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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you and your obsession with size...
btw…i need to watch myself. I swear half of my posts mention you or battlekow…..
by PagsBrewCrew on
Jul 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT
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<3
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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at least I'm not on my...
“whatever that is” kick
by PagsBrewCrew on
Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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I was just noticing that :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
by kirbir on
Jul 30, 2008 7:44 PM CDT
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Jeff...
the adult part is fine, but I promise nothing on the mature end. I will make jokes at the expense of a lot of things. I can promise that I won’t make fun of other people though.
The Chubber Lang Report is back!!!
by Hyatt on Jul 30, 2008 5:31 PM CDT 0 recs
well, given the crowd here
(myself emphatically included) ...”mature” is a relative term.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 5:52 PM CDT
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( . ) ( . )
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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I take it all back
Except for the part about hating Asians.
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 5:41 PM CDT 0 recs
i have bad news, dude
I think Erik Komatsu is asian.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 5:53 PM CDT
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Asian is a state of mind
And clearly he’s not in that state.
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 5:57 PM CDT
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Also, please avoid insultingly spacing Fuk u do me
Posting that dead bear picture was probably a bit much, I admit. it was in response to a “Cubs Win” comment, but I probably provoked some more vitriol with that. You could do the same thing with Prince Fielder fat jokes at evil BCB, but we’re better than that.
In more exciting news, I inspired about a 30 comment exchange at Bizarro BCB about whether or not I am in fact a terrorist. I mentioned in the mug thread that it’s a joke, in part referencing this about Eric Gagne.
And I will not be baited by Cubs fans any more this series. We won’t have to because we’ll win both games anyway :).
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on
Jul 30, 2008 6:12 PM CDT
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Jihad!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on
Jul 30, 2008 6:56 PM CDT
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Let's turn the tables on them tonight!
By winning, I mean. Definitely not by offering select Cubs fans in the parking lot 3-on-1 beatdowns and then punching our sisters in the face. That, we should avoid.
Proudly rock your Tararrel in public.
by MooseHaas on Jul 30, 2008 5:57 PM CDT 0 recs
Haha, wow
Some really awesome fan behavior lately, what with that, the birthday party beatdown, and the guy who set his own apartment on fire.
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
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the apartment guy was much better...
go get em' seth!
by Jamie in LA on
Jul 30, 2008 6:46 PM CDT
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Bummer
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 6:02 PM CDT 0 recs
This is precisely why I'm avoiding the game threads this series.
I know better than to hope I can behave myself in the face of our visitors.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 6:06 PM CDT 0 recs
Reposting this from the Mug
Dennis Sarfate’s first ML start did not go that well: 4 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 3 H, 5 K, 1 HR, 68 pitches.
Still, he only allowed five baserunners, and struck out five. I’m still pissed we just gave him away.
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 6:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Just to be on the safe side
I’m flagging every comment in this game thread, startinnnnnnng…now!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jul 30, 2008 6:14 PM CDT 1 recs
Flagged, you troll
hey, isn’t there a game on tonight?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on
Jul 30, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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Some would say there is
But I consider Project Runway more of a ‘reality competition’
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on
Jul 30, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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The person eliminated tonight totally deserved to go (not that I um watched it or anything).
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on
Jul 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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Leanne should have won tonight
Just sayin’
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on
Jul 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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It’s true! That winning dress was hideous!
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on
Jul 30, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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Wow!
Manny Ramirez going to the Marlins?
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 6:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Teams I would expect to trade for Manny Ramirez
1, 2, 3. Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, etc.
29. Yomiuri Giants
30. Nippon Ham Fighters
31. Green Bay Blizzard
32. Green Bay Bullfrogs
33. Seattle Supersonics
34. Florida Marlins
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on
Jul 30, 2008 6:24 PM CDT
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Christ I go away for 4 days
And all hell breaks loose, So if we take the final two games who had the better series the Cubs for maintaining their one game lead at the start or the Brewers for getting up off the mat?
I was amazed even my quite little watering hole got a link from Those People over at well you know where amazing the same people who were ready to slit their own throat when they lost the second game of the Diamondbacks series are now ready to declare the division won. hmmmmm a lot of baseball left to be played
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
by WSB Chris on Jul 30, 2008 6:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Bt the way, Gammons on ESPN earlier talking about this game....
Below his picture, ESPN headline reads:
“Cubs going for sweep of Brewers”
Am I wrong to think it’s a little early for that type of talk?
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 30, 2008 6:44 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah well, it's ESPN.
They stopped requiring their employees to be able to count (or think) when Olberman left.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Jul 30, 2008 6:52 PM CDT
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As a cubs fan....
All I can say is it’s Gammons…. need I say more?
by tootle on
Jul 30, 2008 7:02 PM CDT
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Hey guys:
I was over here last night, and I might check back, win or lose. I enjoy reading your stuff over here, too.
Anyway, as a white flag, here’s a heads up, one thing we can agree upon, hopefully:
Whittenmyer’s twittering about Erin Andrews a few minutes ago:
cst_cubs ESPN in the house—with lots of leg. Check out Erin Andrews’ game-day ensemble. 4 minutes ago from txt
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2008 6:50 PM CDT 0 recs
Hey Jeff:
I linked to your comments in the gamethread over at BCB if you’re interested in hearing responses from a few regulars. Good game to all tonight.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2008 6:59 PM CDT 0 recs
thanks but no thanks
i’ve been over to the other BCB enough times and seen really nasty, usually inaccurate things said about me to EVER click on such a link again.
sorry.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 7:03 PM CDT
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But don't you want to see how he basically turned your admonishment...
... into an invitation for more Cub fans to come troll over here?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Jul 30, 2008 7:05 PM CDT
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Wasn't trying to do that at all
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Jul 30, 2008 7:10 PM CDT
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I have to say I was disappointed as well
sort of a free for all in here dominated by people you characterize as trolls
by ol Pete on
Jul 30, 2008 7:06 PM CDT
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Okay, no biggie. Sorry to hear that.
I just thought it was worth of note to post your comments about how SBN is no longer meant to isolate blogs but allow fans to peruse other teams’. A few long-time regulars thought your comments were nice, that’s all.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on
Jul 30, 2008 7:07 PM CDT
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That was me, last night
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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as usual
people are mistakenly accusing me of being nice.
those who know me know better.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT
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We all know that you are eating a baby right now...while polluting.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on
Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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thank you.
finally, people understand me.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT
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So what is your neck size to baby eating ratio?
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
by jihad on
Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT
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He's got a pretty small neck
I’d say at least 1:1.
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT
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i think your intentions are good..
but i just havent understood anyone interest in going to blogs of teams they dont follow; or like for that matter.
believe me; what people say on other baseball blogs doesnt interest me at all… and, its kind of annoying to me to have to weed all this every time the brewers play the cubs.
i didnt post anything last night, btw. and this will be my last post on the topic. just MHO. : )
go get em' seth!
by Jamie in LA on
Jul 30, 2008 7:16 PM CDT
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Well,
it’s nice to gauge opinions of your favorite team’s opposing fan base from time to time.
by tootle on
Jul 30, 2008 7:18 PM CDT
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Again, to reiterate
And this isn’t aimed at you directly, but you’ll make a lot more headway with the whole, ”...but I’m just looking for some engaging conversation” thing if you show up after a Cubs loss or during the all star break or after the draft as oposed to IMMEDIATELY after a Cubs win.
The impression being that you mean to do exactly….um….not that.
However, if you truly mean that then hey what’s up…..but I’d be willing to bet you don’t just casually “drop by” when the Cubs are playing another team.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 30, 2008 7:34 PM CDT
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dude.
this is played out.
we don’t need to have this conversation every time a cubs fan shows up. probably some of them are lying through their teeth, others are not.
whatever.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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Yeah, I bet some of them don't even have teeth
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 7:37 PM CDT
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Apologize Jeff
literally my first comment on the subject…...I’m done. I wasn’t part of last night for exactly that reason.
Apologies to you and all again…..
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 30, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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The boogeyman tells his children about Jeff Sackmann
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by battlekow on
Jul 30, 2008 7:43 PM CDT
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no prob.
just want to avoid going down that road again if we can help it.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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I agree 200%....
(Though I thought I was being rather civil; I did say “what’s up”)
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 30, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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okay, but
I lurk on the central’s SBN Blogs when the cubs are playing that team. I don’t want to start arguments, but I really do want to see what the other fans are saying.
by tootle on
Jul 30, 2008 7:51 PM CDT
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hence me using the term
LURK
goes back to the shadows
by tootle on
Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM CDT
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Awsome....
Welcome. There’s beer in the fridge :)
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on
Jul 30, 2008 7:55 PM CDT
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Cub or not,
Soriano is entertaining to watch.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2008 7:09 PM CDT 0 recs
Awesome throw
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 7:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Not a gritty throw.....
Not a gritty throw at all.
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
by Adam P on Jul 30, 2008 7:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Kendall has been very ungritty lately
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Jul 30, 2008 7:13 PM CDT 0 recs
Next thing you know....
he will be hitting home runs.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on
Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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I’ve decided: if we trade away JJ to make room for Escobar I’ll be really sad. I’d rather them trade away any of the other infielders.
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Jul 30, 2008 8:29 PM CDT
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Well at least we make them work for it
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow
Just wow.
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by battlekow on Jul 30, 2008 7:17 PM CDT 0 recs


