Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Leandro Damiao Is Still Really Good

Game Thread #86: Pirates (40-44) at Brewers (46-39)

Like battlekow, I am disclaiming all knowledge of events in Arizona yesterday.

A good way to get that taste out of your mouth is to focus on the matchup today: Ben Sheets and his sub-3.00 ERA against Tom Gorzellany and his 6+ mark.  It's best not to think about how Gorzo has pitched against the Crew.

Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

Comment 135 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

mmmmh lefties

I wonder if Prince might get another day off today? He has sure been scuffling a lot recently.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

worst-hitting pitchers in the NL?

I’m headed off to a weekend of science fiction conventiony goodness, so I’m not able to check this in the manner it deserves (which is probably not much) but are Sheets and Gorzelanny the worst-hitting active NL pitchers over their careers? I know Gorzo actually managed to score a run this year so this year’s small sample is probably not indicative of how bad they actually are.

by morineko on Jul 4, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Close

Of all the active pitchers with 100 or more career PA, only seven have an OPS below .200:

Mark Redman .142
Brian Moehler .157
Doug Davis .180
Tom Gorzelanny .184
Aaron Harang .187
Ben Sheets .197
Claudio Vargas .199

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sheesh

Redman is 8 for 152 in his career. Somehow he’s got six walks, which is almost embarrassing.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It could just be the peyote talking,

but I’m feeling a multi-hit game for Benjamin.

by frostybadger on Jul 4, 2008 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

CC chatter

Anyone concerned about all of this LaPorta talk?

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sheets uncharacteristically walking people

Zone seems a bit tight both ways so far.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

unfortunately

MLB.tv has the Brewers feed today.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure, but...

a lengthy Trenni appearance would have been just what the doctor ordered after I missed out on all her Summerfest reporting and had to deal with Mark Grace the last few days…

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Francoeur

Sent all the way down to AA today

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Another walk

after a 0-2 count even.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Also

Don Money was on the pregame show with Jim. He didn’t say anything really new but if you want to listen it will be archived after the game.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

And a high leverage fly out there

Tons of pitches by Sheets and with how our pen performed yesterday that is scary.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Easy, just give the pen a 7-run lead

I mean, they can’t possibly be worse than yesterday, right?

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking way ahead

If Torres isn’t available today might Gagne be our closer today? He looked by far the best out of the pen yesterday. Kind of wishing we still had DiFelice here as we might need several innings from someone today.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...

Can’t be Mota, almost certainly can’t be Riske.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought maybe they were testing Doumit

He’s now got 9 CS in 28 attempts, though, so it’s not like he’s awful.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe Borowski

DFA’ing him is like getting someone in trade all by itself.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indians could have done this at any time, though.

I think they’re clearing 40-man roster room for a Sabathia deal.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaPorta and company don't need to be added to the 40 man

I would be mildly surprised if they would call up someone like LaPorta right away if the trade happened tomorrow.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

Brad Nelson and Alcides Escobar are the only guys whose names have been bandied around who are on the 40-man.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, I know :)

I was just trying to make fun of Joe Borowski, albeit badly.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another hard hit ball by Billy

Showing some signs of life.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

that could hurt us

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice pitching there by Ben

High fastballs perfect there.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Sox-Yanks

Check out the Gamecast video of the Youkilis triple. The ball rests on the top of the wall. Good camera work on the second look at it

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol

Walked sheets. That is not a good sign for him.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Good golly

This is the first season Sheets has had more than one walk since 2004.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

JimJerry

It’d be kind of funny if he has a good game and is traded right after it, a la Gabe Gross.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

if this keeps up

I’m not so sure anymore I want to trady Hardy. Can we trade Weeks instead and shift JJ to 2B once Escobar is ready?

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

That could be done as well

But JJ’s stock is really high right now. Rickie, not so much.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

I’m not a fan of selling high for the sake of selling high, though. If Hardy could get us somebody really good, sure.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not saying we have to trade him or even should

I am just saying we probably get more for him than Weeks right now.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trading Hardy would be contradictory

Trading for CC to win now and then letting Hardy go?

Makes no sense.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luck Doubles Count

Not all doubles are created equal, but hey…

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

It hurt Braun so much to take a walk

that he had to get picked off

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm calling it now

Whatever Ben can’t finish, I want Gagne in there for it.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Gagne

I never thought I would be looking forward to a Gagne Appearance.

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-out RISP hit

Why does Hart hate giving us reasons to worry? :)

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

They're cheering Billy Hall

That’s nice of them.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

So Sheets is at 101 pitches right now

This has been a long inning too. I wouldn’t mind just taking him down now and saving him a bit.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Who'd have thought

that Gorzelanny would finish the 5th inning with more pitches than Sheets?

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

mmmmmh lefties

Can’t get enough of that left handed pitching.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Gorzo the Mighty

Not so much.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's Bernie's patriotic uniform today?

Hasn’t he worn the stars and stripes on holidays in the past? Need an answer to this important question.

by oconnobe on Jul 4, 2008 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

And Gorzelanny gets relieved by

a guy with an even higher ERA. Neat.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

whew

The pen finally.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

10 LOB for the rats

That has been a theme lately.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually like PIT, but

Crew needs to outscore them 50-2 this series for reasons future and past.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This could be a huge series

Three lefties for the pirates and the cubs and cards playing.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

On pace for 40.5-4.5 so far

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally Braun's hand is better

I was worried I wouldn’t see him until next weekend.

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Jul 4, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Bob going for some Jim Beam

So who are we rooting for in this Cubs Cards series?

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Satan?

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have it on great authority

That Harry Doyle is VO & water

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

100% Cardinals

Pragmatically

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

more seriously, I'll be rooting for the Cards

They’re the much more likely team to have a weak second half, so if they can help cut down the Cubs’ lead before it happens, I’m all for it.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Cameron will carry this team this homestand. Just watch.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness

Great to see the team come back like this after yesterday.

I am pro-Cameron

by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Villanueva

With the injured hamstring trot to first.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Corey

Nice catch

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Jul 4, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Save for Villanueva

Second of his career.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess

BA noted during the game that the pitcher “saves” the rest of the bullpen so I guess there’s that.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

sounds like another good win. I think we all needed that after the day that shall not be named.

by molitorfan on Jul 4, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I was listening to some pirate postgame and they were very optimistic about the next two games

That surprised me because they basically threw several of their young pitchers under the bus. Don’t they realize we kill left handed pitching? Sure Bush isn’t great but he is pitching better recently and Suppan has been very good last start notwithstanding.

Visit my baseball blog ...or else!

by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Run differential

is back positive for the season at +5. Hopefully Bush helps them keep it that way on Saturday.

by molitorfan on Jul 4, 2008 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Brew Crew Ball is dedicated to providing a friendly atmosphere for intelligent Brewer conversation. Click here to view our Posting Guide and Community Guidelines.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
Nationals Fan with questions about the Brewer's OF.
Nohuddleblueew9_small
BP C'mon Back Club
Small
Help- How to "Cut the Cable" and Watch Live Games
Barrelman_small
BCB Advanced Stat Pseudofantasy League - PART II *EDIT* !! Draft this Sunday, Feb 19 !!
Small
Interview with a Former Brewer Part Two
Small
Catching Up With a Former Brewer
Barrelman_small
BCB Advanced Stat Pseudofantasy League
People_studying_small
Does Fielder's Contract Outdo Pujols'?
Dr-teeth_small
Fielder: It's all about health
Barrelman_small
NPB Position Players

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

NL Central Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Chicago 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Cincinnati 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Houston 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Milwaukee 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Pittsburgh 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
St. Louis 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0

(updated 2.15.2012 at 1:03 PM CST)


Moderators

Newavatar_small Kyle Lobner

146_-_street_map_plaza_from_pop_tower_with_bars-tiltshift_small TheJay

Communist_party_small Jordan M

X1pxoywqu4sjf73f7drxq2lmqys7mzsyx7pa9necepiffk_ewcuwmuazb-o17ukmbriclcdkn4lk-4xposaawiq4j8hzdsccpjwatqpz2o2p-i0nnqjlyt7pmytaycsaknszvaktpshtcu9sjle1qchlw_1__small NoahJ

Hikaru_50_small morineko

Picture_069_small Nicole Haase

Gogol_bordello_small BrewHaHeather

Anon-md_small Rubie Q