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Game Thread #86: Pirates (40-44) at Brewers (46-39)

Like battlekow, I am disclaiming all knowledge of events in Arizona yesterday.

A good way to get that taste out of your mouth is to focus on the matchup today: Ben Sheets and his sub-3.00 ERA against Tom Gorzellany and his 6+ mark.  It's best not to think about how Gorzo has pitched against the Crew.

Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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mmmmh lefties

I wonder if Prince might get another day off today? He has sure been scuffling a lot recently.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 11:58 AM CDT   0 recs

worst-hitting pitchers in the NL?

I’m headed off to a weekend of science fiction conventiony goodness, so I’m not able to check this in the manner it deserves (which is probably not much) but are Sheets and Gorzelanny the worst-hitting active NL pitchers over their careers? I know Gorzo actually managed to score a run this year so this year’s small sample is probably not indicative of how bad they actually are.

by morineko on Jul 4, 2008 12:48 PM CDT   0 recs

Close

Of all the active pitchers with 100 or more career PA, only seven have an OPS below .200:

Mark Redman .142
Brian Moehler .157
Doug Davis .180
Tom Gorzelanny .184
Aaron Harang .187
Ben Sheets .197
Claudio Vargas .199

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sheesh

Redman is 8 for 152 in his career. Somehow he’s got six walks, which is almost embarrassing.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 1:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It could just be the peyote talking,

but I’m feeling a multi-hit game for Benjamin.

by frostybadger on Jul 4, 2008 12:56 PM CDT   0 recs

CC chatter

Anyone concerned about all of this LaPorta talk?

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sheets uncharacteristically walking people

Zone seems a bit tight both ways so far.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:26 PM CDT   0 recs

Trenni stopping by pittsburg booth later

In case anyone is interested.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:29 PM CDT   0 recs

unfortunately

MLB.tv has the Brewers feed today.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The pirates announcers aren't too great

So you aren’t missing much.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sure, but...

a lengthy Trenni appearance would have been just what the doctor ordered after I missed out on all her Summerfest reporting and had to deal with Mark Grace the last few days…

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Francoeur

Sent all the way down to AA today

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT   0 recs

Billy

Great way to start his streak of starts this week

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 1:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Confidence boost

That’s exactly what Billy needed.

by oconnobe on Jul 4, 2008 1:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Another walk

after a 0-2 count even.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:45 PM CDT   0 recs

Also

Don Money was on the pregame show with Jim. He didn’t say anything really new but if you want to listen it will be archived after the game.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:51 PM CDT   0 recs

I mean picked up by a fan

And might have saved us a run.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And a high leverage fly out there

Tons of pitches by Sheets and with how our pen performed yesterday that is scary.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Easy, just give the pen a 7-run lead

I mean, they can’t possibly be worse than yesterday, right?

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thinking way ahead

If Torres isn’t available today might Gagne be our closer today? He looked by far the best out of the pen yesterday. Kind of wishing we still had DiFelice here as we might need several innings from someone today.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 1:56 PM CDT   0 recs

Well...

Can’t be Mota, almost certainly can’t be Riske.

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Villy

I’m guessing he will play a major role today.

by oconnobe on Jul 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Why run there?

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:00 PM CDT   0 recs

I thought maybe they were testing Doumit

He’s now got 9 CS in 28 attempts, though, so it’s not like he’s awful.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Joe Borowski

DFA’ing him is like getting someone in trade all by itself.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:13 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Indians could have done this at any time, though.

I think they’re clearing 40-man roster room for a Sabathia deal.

by cwyers on Jul 4, 2008 2:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

LaPorta and company don't need to be added to the 40 man

I would be mildly surprised if they would call up someone like LaPorta right away if the trade happened tomorrow.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

right

Brad Nelson and Alcides Escobar are the only guys whose names have been bandied around who are on the 40-man.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, I know :)

I was just trying to make fun of Joe Borowski, albeit badly.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Another hard hit ball by Billy

Showing some signs of life.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:19 PM CDT   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSS

IDOTS pitch to JK

by Flag Up on Jul 4, 2008 2:21 PM CDT   0 recs

Too bad he wasn't actually on fire

He might’ve run faster then.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Just not hot enough in Milwaukee

Time to go back to Arizona.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ya think?

Man…

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that could hurt us

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 4, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice pitching there by Ben

High fastballs perfect there.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Sox-Yanks

Check out the Gamecast video of the Youkilis triple. The ball rests on the top of the wall. Good camera work on the second look at it

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 2:32 PM CDT   0 recs

Lol

Walked sheets. That is not a good sign for him.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Good golly

This is the first season Sheets has had more than one walk since 2004.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:37 PM CDT   0 recs

JJ

Steroids?

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:38 PM CDT   0 recs

JJ

only drinks Robinade.

by Braunstalker on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

JimJerry

It’d be kind of funny if he has a good game and is traded right after it, a la Gabe Gross.

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT   0 recs

if this keeps up

I’m not so sure anymore I want to trady Hardy. Can we trade Weeks instead and shift JJ to 2B once Escobar is ready?

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM CDT   0 recs

That could be done as well

But JJ’s stock is really high right now. Rickie, not so much.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

true

I’m not a fan of selling high for the sake of selling high, though. If Hardy could get us somebody really good, sure.

by Zeyes on Jul 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I am not saying we have to trade him or even should

I am just saying we probably get more for him than Weeks right now.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Trading Hardy would be contradictory

Trading for CC to win now and then letting Hardy go?

Makes no sense.

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Luck Doubles Count

Not all doubles are created equal, but hey…

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT   0 recs

It hurt Braun so much to take a walk

that he had to get picked off

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by verno329 on Jul 4, 2008 2:43 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm calling it now

Whatever Ben can’t finish, I want Gagne in there for it.

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by Lake County on Jul 4, 2008 2:44 PM CDT   0 recs

Gagne

I never thought I would be looking forward to a Gagne Appearance.

by ksbrewer on Jul 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

2-out RISP hit

Why does Hart hate giving us reasons to worry? :)

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by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 2:45 PM CDT   0 recs

End of the line here for Gorzo

He looks done.

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by dixieflatline on Jul 4, 2008 2:46 PM CDT   0 recs