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Why the Brewers Won't Release Guillermo Mota

I know the ninth inning collapse in the final game against Arizona would be ideally swept under the carpet, but I want to focus on at least one integral member of it. Yesterday on the JS blog, Tom Haudricourt wrote this about the ninth inning:

Guillermo Mota in for the Brewers, which turns out to be a disastrous move.

Mota, who has been nothing but a train wreck for weeks now, sets the stage for the Brewers' worst loss of the season. He faces three hitters and gets none out, allowing two infield hits -- the balls were tough plays -- and a walk.

[snip]

Arizona scored six runs without making an out. An awful, awful loss for the Brewers. No other way to say it. Guillermo Mota should be ashamed of himself.

Hopefully Todd Jones doesn't read Tom H's work. Sentiments were similar regarding Mota around here as well. There were some calls for Mota to be cut loose and criticizing the front office for not recognizing Mota has no place on the roster.

Now, while we as fans may have our opinions and plenty of reasons why they make sense, I believe the Brewers brass won't make the decision to cast Mota aside anytime soon. Maybe they will demote him to mop-up guy in the bullpen (as well they should) and take advantage of his ability to go multiple innings in blowouts, but I don't believe they'll cut him loose. Here's why:

1. While Haudricourt (and many around here will agree) says Mota has been a train wreck for weeks now, the question remains whether the Mota that's shown up in the past four weeks is what he'll do going forward. I suspect Brewers brass is more inclined to think the Mota they had for the first two months of the season is more his actual ability level than this past horrendous month. If they do believe a return to his numbers early in the season is possible, there's no reason to get rid of him. The idea he's tipping pitches seems a little too simple in explaining his troubles, but I'm guessing the coaching staff has some other ideas they'd like to try.

2. In the immortal words of many, many, many people: "It all comes down to money." Designating Guillermo Mota for assignment means he's gone for the rest of the season. The best case is some team wanting him badly enough to claim him on waivers and assuming the $1.6 million or so left on his contract. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. That's not to say Mota wouldn't have a job anywhere in the majors. I'm sure a number of teams (maybe not contenders) wouldn't mind gambling on a veteran like him filling a role in their bullpen for the rest of the season. The point is, though, that there's no real need for them to pay him $1.6 million to do that. If/when Mota does clear waivers, he could either choose to report to AAA Nashville or become a free agent. Assuming Mota and his agent, Adam Katz, aren't insane, he would choose free agency, forcing the Brewers to release him. Unfortunately, Milwaukee would still be on the hook for the rest of his contract until he's signed by another team. When he is signed, his new team only has to pay him the prorated minimum for the rest of the year (about $200K at most). The Brewers are still on the hook for the remaining $1.4 million. As battlekow might note, that's three and a half full seasons of minor leaguers, or seven half-seasons. If the front office feels Mota still can fill a role on a major league staff, they likely won't want to pay him to do it for another team.

3. There's no "proven" relievers stashed in AAA. Mark DiFelice, Tim Dillard, Erasmo Ramirez, and Derrick Turnbow are the Sounds' righties that have spent some time in the majors. I take that back: Turnbow is proven, in a bad way. I very much doubt the team will give Turnbow another shot until he manages not to walk more batters than he strikes out. Dillard pitched decently in his short stint with the Brewers earlier this year, but walks were an issue at the end of his tenure. DiFelice doesn't walk many batters, but the coaching staff was loathe to use him in close games when he was with the team before and I suspect they'd like to keep him and his underpowering arsenal stretched out as a long reliever/spot starter rather than a short reliever. Erasmo Ramirez has more major league experience than DiFelice and Dillard combined, having spent parts of three seasons in the Rangers' bullpen. He made a couple brief appearances for the A's and Marlins last season. This season in Nashville he's struck out 28 against 4 walks in 26 games spanning 33 2/3 innings. He could be a candidate to replace Mota, but he lacks the veteran mystique, not to mention his mediocre career strikeout rate in the bigs.

So there's a couple reasons the front office would be loathe to let Mota go, win now attitude or not. I know Julian Tavarez can be brought up as a counterpoint to the veterans over the untested idea, but there wasn't as much money involved in his signing and eventual release. If Mota is at some point replaced in the bullpen, it will more likely be a result of a trade for a better reliever than because he's designated for assignment and released outright. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though.

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Was the loss really Mota's fault?

Let me say Mota will be the first to go if we can trade for another starter in a trade (assuming we can’t find a trading partner dumb enough to take one of our pitchers from the ML roster as part of the deal).
That being said, he only allowed 3 of the batters to reach base. The next two releivers gave hits to the next 4. And all thos4e balls were better hit than the ones Mota allowed. Yet no one is calling out for their blood.
Let’s just admit that this was one of “those games” that occur during a 162 game season. This team has had its share of luck. Look at our record in one-run games. I could make a good arguement that we were lucky to win Wednesday nite. Sometimes you lose games you should win and, fortunately, vice-versa. Don’t dump Mota because he is slumping. The “blame” fror the loss is shared by 3 pitchers.

by richfry on Jul 4, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Guillermo Mota should be ashamed of himself."

What, it’s a moral failure?

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 4, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I know

That line and his statement today that the Brewers won’t trade J.J. Hardy because their fans would revolt (because he’s hot right now) reinforced the low opinion I have of Mr. Haudricourt’s writing.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jul 4, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's simply no way the Brewers would trade LaPorta

Does the team even talk to that guy? He’s more out of the loop than I am.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 5, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not only ridiculous at present...

but it’s been speculated since draft day that the LaPorta pick was in part for this very contingency. He’d develop quickly and could be swapped …well, right now.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 5, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good summary

this all makes sense Jay. It is easy to over react when a reliever isn’t getting it done over a whole month. If he does come in for mop up situations and doesn’t shape up then he may get the Turnbow treatment. And if they do trade JJ I hope the club has grief counselors available for the females of Wisconsin.

by molitorfan on Jul 4, 2008 11:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

all sensible arguments

The tipping pitches story sounds like what they call boilerplate, something KLSnow seemed to recognize so well.

Somewhere I read or heard a list of the pitches Mota is throwing and I was a bit taken aback. His stuff seems awfully similar.

The thing that bothers me about him is that he often throws a full count pitch that doesn’t come close enough to even tempt the batter to swing. Maybe that impression is biased toward recent performance.

He did have an ugly walk in the d-backs loss, but in a way one could also say that he was very successful. He induced two ground balls IIRC, one not handled by Branyan and one by Weeks. Getting grounders is a good thing and just a slight difference in any number of factors and the game would have been over right there.

by ol Pete on Jul 5, 2008 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to see more of Mota before

any decision is made. Does Yost think the AZ debacle was Mota’s fault? My guess is we’ll be seeing a little less of Mota in the late innings in any case. This managing of relievers is not an “all or nothing” process. Schaus and Riske aren’t sure things either these days.

Having Braun, Fielder and Weeks hitting would make this “problem” fade into the background.

Enough of the formalities. Jay, may I call you “The”? ;^)

by heybatterbatter on Jul 5, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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