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Sabathia a Brewer!

In return, the Brewers sent the Indians Matt LaPorta and, according to the Wisconsin State Journal (thanks Zeyes), Zach Jackson, Rob Bryson, and a player-to-be-named-later.

[UPDATE]: Haudricourt confirms Jackson and Bryson and suggests that Taylor Green is the PTBNL.

[UPDATE 2]: Green's agent suggets Green might not be the PTBNL (thanks jihad).

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Who are the other two?

Cleveland squeeze Brantley and Green out of Doug?

I’m guessing the Brewers announce it immediately after the game today.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 3:46 PM CDT   0 recs

That's what I figure too

The Huntsville game starts at 5 CT. I wonder if the lineup will come out before the Brewers game ends; if LaPorta isn’t in it, then it’s pretty much a sure thing.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 6, 2008 3:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't complain

I love exciting young talent as much as the next playoff-hungry Brewers fan, but if it is LaPorta/Green/Brantley, that doesn’t strike me as all that bad. Best of luck in Cleveland, Matt, but load up the rotation and try and scare the pants off these Cubs.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 3:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

now I want this game to end ASAP so we can find out what the deal is

Looks like a CC start on Tuesday!

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 6, 2008 3:47 PM CDT   0 recs

so who gets bumped from the starting five?

i’d say the way Bush has been pitching, he joins Benny and Manny. McClung’s skill would translate well to the BP, but boy has Suppan sucked. How about some tendiinitis?

by ol Pete on Jul 6, 2008 3:50 PM CDT   0 recs

I hope they don't think about sunk costs

McClung’s the proven multitool of pitchers: he can start, close, do your short relief, do your long relief, and he can get you some sacrifice hits or outfield singles if you really need a bat.

Suppan…what is he good for, other than needing McClung or Villanueva to relieve him when he can’t make it the heck out of the fourth inning?

by morineko on Jul 6, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jeff Suppan will get his quality starts in. I won’t rag on him because of two bad starts at home, but he can’t leave the rotation if C.C. joins the club. It has to be McClung, he’s the one we know can contribute to the club outside of the starting five.

by ryan braun on Jul 6, 2008 4:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tuesday might not be his first start

I believe a player has 72 hours to report after a trade, so if CC wants to drag his feet or get family stuff wrapped up in Cleveland he might not be seen until Thursday. Assuming they have completed the trade.

by Getting Yosted on Jul 6, 2008 3:51 PM CDT   0 recs

I bet if the trade’s finalized and the Brewers want him to start Tuesday, CC will pitch Tuesday. He likes to pitch and I’m sure will want to get off to a good start in Milwaukee.

by APV on Jul 6, 2008 3:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Subtext

Brian Anderson just said something like, “Should be an exciting time for Brewers fans over the next 48 hours on the trade front.” They’re just dying to spill the beans. They must know something.

The team always does stuff immediately after games. Remember when Gabe Gross had a walk-off hit and then before he’s out of his uniform they announce he had been traded? They might even announce it on Brewers Live.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 3:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

If it’s true, you guys are going to enjoy watching CC pitch the next few months. His combination of size and athleticism is something you don’t see too often, especially on a pitching mound. He does tend to over-pitch a bit in big-games, but he has really matured into an elite pitcher over the past several seasons. A quick survey of his numbers over at fangraphs will show you what a different pitcher he has become (keeping in mind that his 2008 numbers are pulled down by several inexplicably terrible starts to begin the season).

by APV on Jul 6, 2008 3:59 PM CDT   1 recs

Adam, you forgot to mention the dingers. Like, the ones he hits.

by fleerdon on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

true…he’s got some plate discipline issues, but his career hitting line is .300/.317/.475

/semi-sarc

by APV on Jul 6, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Old update?

mlbtraderumors.com links to some SI.com thing saying the Indians are still trying to get Escobar. Was that over in the game thread? Is that an old update from earlier?

Anyway, LaPorta and Escobar would be too much. Need to have Alcides for when J.J. signs with the D-backs.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 4:00 PM CDT   0 recs

You’ll have an easier time following the trade season if you ignore that site entirely.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   1 recs

Whoa.....wait....

We have a “Jay” to go along with “TheJay” now?
Confusing.

by NoahJ on Jul 6, 2008 5:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can think of me as The Jay. That other guy is just the TheJay.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 5:16 PM CDT to parent up   2 recs

If the Brewers get CC

He should be allowed to play in a Milwaukee Indians uniform.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Jul 6, 2008 4:02 PM CDT   0 recs

Does anyone think that the Crew have a chance

Of signing CC to a long term deal at the end of the season?

by Saltire on Jul 6, 2008 4:03 PM CDT   0 recs

They definitely have a chance

Maybe not a good chance, but Attanasio has proven he’s willing to open his wallet, and Sabathia apparently enjoys Cleveland, which means he’ll also most likely enjoy Milwaukee, likes hitting, and doesn’t appear to be interested in wringing every last dollar out of the market. It almost seems like they’d have a better chance of signing him than Sheets.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 6, 2008 4:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to be a party pooper here ...

... but I think it’s really unlikely the Brewers come close to offering what somebody with a load of cash to throw around will give Sabathia. You have to figure last year’s Zambrano deal is kind of the template for what both Sheets and Sabathia are looking for. That was 5 years/$91 million. Attanasio is willing to spend, but those kinds of dollars are pretty much out of the reach of teams like the Brewers.

I look at this trade as three of our prospects for three months of a great pitcher and two first-round draft picks. It’d be nice to keep Sabathia, but I’d be stunned if he signs here.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 4:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the crew could go to that

The will be no money wasted on Gange or Mota next year.
And Sheets is already getting $12million this year

by Saltire on Jul 6, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And would you prefer CC or Sheets for next year and beyond

Assuming that there contracts would be roughly the same I’m guessing something like 5 years $90 million, since there is no way we can afford both.

by Saltire on Jul 6, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Respectfully, I don’t see it.

The Indians will approach him in the offseason. There’s no real reason to think the Brewers outbid the Indians, and there’s no real reason to think Sabathia would prefer Milwaukee to Cleveland if the money were equal.

That’s not to say there’s anything better about Cleveland in general, only that Sabathia has spent his entire adult life in the Indians organization. I mean that literally — he was drafted six weeks before his 18th birthday and signed nine days after it.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't mean to imply it was likely

Just that it’s not out of the question.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 6, 2008 6:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He turned down 4-5 and $76MM from the Indians, and the dispute was over years, not dollars. He probably wants 6, at least.

by fleerdon on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Alright game over

Odds that Davey Nelson stumbles through a report that the Brewers have traded for C.C Sabathia….pretty good

by Scooter82 on Jul 6, 2008 4:14 PM CDT   0 recs

All over but the shouting, if you ask me

Haudricourt has a blog post about the deal now. Supposedly Cleveland will have a press conference tomorrow. It would suck to have to wait another day for this, but whatever. There’s too much talk getting out about how it appears to be done. I’d say it’s done.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 4:15 PM CDT   0 recs

A couple of club sources have told me the Brewers and Indians are still in heavy negotiations to try to conclude a deal for Cleveland left-hander C.C. Sabathia.
Whether a deal gets done or not, it’s a good sign for the Brewers that talks are still going on. That means they are still trying and the Indians are still listening.
The Indians are off tomorrow and a reporter in Cleveland told me he has been giving indications that a press conference will be taking place. That makes sense because it’s much easier to announce big deals on off days.

by oconnobe on Jul 6, 2008 4:15 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm not too concerned

Apparently DM and MS are not into this whole blogosphere thing, doing it the old way and letting word come out at press conferences, my goodness. Annoying.

by ryan braun on Jul 6, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So, in case you haven’t noticed … you’ve got some visitors from LetsGoTribe here (including me).

Are you guys excited about this? Because we’re excited. Sad, but excited. Our whole season sucks anyway.

We were torn last year in trying to figure out if the Indians should open the prospect vault in order to “go for it.” But the fact is, your system is much deeper in impact prospects than ours was a year ago — it’s still a dilemma, but it seems like much less of one.

Is that how you guys see it?

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 4:22 PM CDT   0 recs

Yeah, pretty much

I don’t follow the minor league Brewers as much as many others around here, but it’s impossible to miss LaPorta’s amazing awesome-ness. But he’s a LF or 1B. Well, he’s living in Blocked City playing those positions in the Brewers organization right now. Plus, after the tease of last year, to be in a spot where there’s a good chance to go for the playoffs, well, they have to do everything they can.

The Brewers still have a tremendous amount of prospects in the system, and now they plug Sabathia into the rotation. Two No. 1 starters on the same team? Absolute rarity these days. Just stunned they’re in a position to go for it like this. So much fun to watch.

by Bay View Brewer on Jul 6, 2008 4:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

can't speak for everyone...

but I know I am. The Brewers would have two aces in their rotation and immediately become the favorites for the NL Wild Card, and should be in a position to give the Cubs a run as well.

I’m not happy about giving up Laporta, but assuming that Escobar is not included in the deal, our minor league system is still pretty well stocked. If the rumors are true and its Laporta and the two guys from single A, I would be elated.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on Jul 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Way I See It

Prospects are great to have, it makes baseball a lot more enjoyable, and gives every true baseball fan a few extra teams to root for. I think C.C., especially coming off the Cy Young last year, would really energize Milwaukee because, quite honestly, we’re sellers 99.9% of the time in the past. The last time we “bought” at the trade deadline was Don Sutton.

It’s going to be fun to watch, and I’m really excited to see what this team in Huntsville will do. LaPorta and Gamel are going to rake once they get to the majors.

by ryan braun on Jul 6, 2008 4:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Post Game Show

Craig and Davey just reported LaPorta is not playing today, but they haven’t heard anything official about any trades.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 6, 2008 4:41 PM CDT   0 recs

Escobar, Gamel and Salome are playing today, for everyone following this particular tea leaf.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

huntsville lineup today

Parejo CF
Escobar RF
Gamel 3B
Salome DH
Gillespie LF
Hopf 1B
Bell 2B
Garciaparra SS
Maldonado C
Wright P

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:17 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

that's what milb has.

ryan crew is the only other OF listed on the roster.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=559&stn=true&sid=t559

and it looks like he is just back from the DL…

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by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Has Escobar played in the outfield before?

Maybe I’m just ignorant, but I’ve never heard of him in the OF, especially not with his defensive prowess at shortstop.

by NoahJ on Jul 6, 2008 5:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

actually, they just switched it.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2008_07_06_biraax_hunaax_1

now escobar at ss, and garciaparra in rf

makes more sense not to move your top SS in an “emergency” fill in like that.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok

I was wondering what they were thinking there for a second.

by NoahJ on Jul 6, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

so...

Chris Errecart, and Michael Brantley are the other “regulars” not playing today.

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by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They are both hurt

correct?

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 6, 2008 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh. maybe...

couldn’t find anything, but brantley last played 6/26 and errercart ph, 7/4.

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by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:37 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Here.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 6, 2008 5:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

and

here

errercart has broken hand.
brantley has sprained ankle.

thanks MadJimiBrewha

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by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Crew

is a season high 10 games over .500 and is about to be tied for the wild card.

by molitorfan on Jul 6, 2008 4:59 PM CDT   0 recs

brevard county

cain, and green both played today for brevard county. (of other names mentioned).

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by jacob on Jul 6, 2008 5:25 PM CDT   0 recs

He who shall not be named

says the Brewers and Indians were still in “heavy negotiations” as of an hour twenty minutes ago.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 6, 2008 5:27 PM CDT   0 recs

Another Update from He who must not be named

Says they are closer yet, but still not final

by Scooter82 on Jul 6, 2008 5:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Lorenzo Cain not going to be in the deal

according to the nameless one. Going to take Laporta’s spot instead.

by NoahJ on Jul 6, 2008 5:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Glad to read

Escobar doesn’t seem to be included.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 6, 2008 5:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Escobar seemed an unlikely trade piece all along. The Brewers obviously value him, and the Indians are really big on walk rates. Players that get included in trades generally are valued a little more by the receiving team than the sending team, not the other way around.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 5:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Congratulations to you guys for acquiring CC; we’ll miss him greatly in Cleveland.

Railing against the sacrifice bunt since 2000.

by jdudas on Jul 6, 2008 5:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Moustache needs to be careful

that the Indians don’t try to white out “C.C. Sabathia” and write over “Jeff Weaver” in the written agreement. Those sly dogs!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 6, 2008 5:32 PM CDT   0 recs

We would never dupe you into signing Weaver. Halama, on the other hand…

by fleerdon on Jul 6, 2008 5:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ha!!!

go get em' seth!

by Jamie in LA on Jul 6, 2008 5:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Naw, man, we’d get you Halama at least.

by fleerdon on Jul 6, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Assuming that it's a done deal

When his plane comes into Mitchell Field, someone should point out the “Welcome to Cleveland” sign on the roof and tell him the whole thing was a joke.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Jul 6, 2008 5:56 PM CDT   0 recs

sheesh

the CNNSI caption on the front page says that the brewers deal may include “Matt LaPorte”

by Stoa on Jul 6, 2008 6:04 PM CDT   0 recs

Heyyyy

so we keep LaPorta then? Not bad!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jul 6, 2008 6:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Assuming the stories are right … congratulations to all you Brewers fans, you’re getting one hell of a pitcher.

Lots of Indians fans would tell you that they became instant Brewers fans after the way Milwaukee greeted the Indians for that home-away-from-home series last April. It’s tough to see him go, but it feels good seeing him go to the team that those fans are rooting for — and, frankly, to see him going to another small-market team.

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 6:19 PM CDT   0 recs

A lot of us

became Indians fans because of that as well. Although I think almost everyone on this board is a slight fan of whoever Grady is playing for.

by Braunstalker on Jul 6, 2008 6:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Really? Why Grady?

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 6:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

They’re a bunch of 12-year-old girls here apparently.

Dear Mr. Sabean, I hear you have a reputation of being stupid. Want to deal Lincecum or Cain? You can pick THREE of these 4 players for either: Borowski, Dellucci, Blake, Byrd.

by westbrook on Jul 6, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, thanks

we’re glad to have you.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 6, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ditto

You guys are getting what everyone says is the next Braun-Albert Pujols type, and I hope he pans out that way.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on Jul 6, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you, very gracious.

Just talked to my brother in Cleveland. The news is already on talk radio, and the idiots are saying “They just traded the Cy Young winner for one Double-A prospect!!!!!”

by Jay on Jul 6, 2008 6:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I was over at your place

Is DocNo insane all the time, or just today? LaPorta plus Gallardo/Parra? Parra by himself would have been overpaying and defeated the purpose of the deal.

And I would be very surprised if LaPorta doesn’t report to AAA and is promoted to the big league roster in September.

by Getting Yosted on Jul 6, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tensions are high, man. You guys have only had to deal with the C.C. thing for, what, a month? We’ve been doing this since last November, if not earlier.

by fleerdon on Jul 6, 2008 6:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs