Game Thread #91: Rockies (38-53) at Brewers (50-40)
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 5:00 PM CDT
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PrintApparently we're going to have to keep playing games every day. For some reason I was under the impression that the schedule had been rearranged so that Sabathia would start the rest of the games this season. Oh well.
This pitching matchup is pretty nifty, too. Ben Sheets will take the mound against Glendon Rusch, which sounds a little like Maria Sharapova versus Alla Kudryavtseva...or, well, maybe not. I find it entertaining that the Rockies may still consider themselves "in it" despite a record 15 games under .500 and the presence of Glendon Rusch in the rotation.
Game time is 7:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview. (It has Greg Reynolds listed as starter, but he's in Triple-A.)
Go Brewers!
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He hit a HR in his first Brewers game
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You've already forgotten his epic battle against Grossmouth and the evils of chewing tobacco?
He's extremely quick and good.
I try not to remember guys with 1-12 records
"You guys know me. I take a long time to analyze things."
- Ned Yost
by SunglassesAtNight on Jul 9, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I just realized
The WTA Tour lists weights for players. I’d think wandering around asking for that information has gotten more than one Tour employee in trouble.
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
in my experience
serious female tennis players could care less. I’m sure there are exceptions, but I’m often startled by girls I barely know openly discussing their weight, how much they’ve gained or lost, etc.
also, I would bet that like baseball weights, these girls aren’t getting measured on an official WTA scale every six months, so they can skew the numbers if they so choose.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess there's a major difference between...
Serious professional tennis players and mid-major college basketball players. My only experience with the subject is via a friend who worked in the sports information office at a college, and once told me several interesting stories from his attempts to get accurate info for the team’s media guide, which involved some players refusing to talk and some players giving him information that was obviously inaccurate, especially when it came to height.
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
I should note:
This is the women’s team we’re talking about. It was probably implied, but now it’s stated. :-)
Derek Jeter is day to day after being hit by a pitch and being gorilla press slammed by a Bizarro Ray.
Poddy time
Scott Podsednik is hitting leadoff for the Rockies tonight. For once the 2008 numbers of our center fielder are better than our opponent’s.
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Beisbol time!!!!
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
Are we alive here?
You know I can’t carry this place on my own
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions
Don’t make me talk to myself on the interwebs
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
loss of KUG there
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Sheets looking
good.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Rusch
How’d he get to be one of the ex-Brewers not to be booed? :)
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That'd be disappointing
I’d expect fans who boo ex-Brewers to be more knowledgeable about who’s still around the league.
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mark
mulder injured himself in the 1st inning of the cards game, gotta feel for that guy and hopefully they didnt bring him back too soon
Did the delay have anything to do with it?
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dont think
so, he got rollins to strike out but then threw a ton of balls in a row and did not look very good at all
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it would have been impossible not to bring him back "too soon"
Unless pitching ability is like a planet, and you can go around the dark side of suck and come back to being good again.
He's extremely quick and good.
by battlekow on Jul 9, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
in marginally Brewers-related news
Jemile Weeks is making his professional debut right now, in low A.
I was just thinking about him today
The AZL Giants played BRRROK today, and they have a 2B named Weeks.
He's extremely quick and good.
I want to say nine
Jim Deshaies, I think. I could be making that up though.
He's extremely quick and good.
do you think it would count
if Ben struck out?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he can beat it
That’s the record for consecutive strikeouts, as in, the first eight batters struck out. Since Sheets gave up a walk and a hit, there might be a different record for consecutive strikeout outs to open up a game.
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by SRB on Jul 9, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Here’s the box score. Oddly enough, he threw a complete game but only had two more K’s the whole way, not even tying his career high of 11, which he had set earlier in the year, in only 7 innings. He struck out 11 in 7 innings the next year, too.
He's extremely quick and good.
somebody's been taking bb-ref classes from thejay!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sheets is dealing
6/6 K
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Still, too many pitches for 2 innings
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
hey guys
I’m from Cincinnati and will be up to catch the game on Friday. Any recomandations? Especially for Milwaukee resturants.
I’m looking at you battlekow.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
with Cleveland?
the answer is yes.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
German seems approriate.
I have had my Italian fix in Chicago.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
Are you saying Arnold Rothstein is Italian?
Because I think he was Jewish.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
There aren't really any "hole in the wall" German places that I know of
Just the standard ones you always hear about, like Mader’s, or Pandl’s in Whitefish Bay.
He's extremely quick and good.
any resturants that you recomand
regardless of genre?
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the bavarian club used to have an awesome restaurant
in Glendale near Whitefish Bay.
They didn’t do crap for business, so might be closed now, but they were awesome.
As to pandall’s, I always preferred the one in Fox Point, because that one did brunch;) Not really “German” though.
With the addition of Sabathia
I wonder if Eric Gagne is regretting donating money for every K.
Coffee is for closers
Comma usage
From the official site:
According to the league, David Wright of the Mets and Pat Burrell of the Phillies are mounting, “significant challenges.”
I’m not sure this can be parsed to fully make sense, but it appears that:
a) Wright and Burrell are mounting. (What? Each other, maybe?)
b) Something is a significant challenge. Wright and Burrell? Their mounting of each other?
Also, cheese.
Maybe "mounting" should be "mouthing"
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hmm
that rules out Burrell, then.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
regarding b)
maybe the significant challenge is the according to the league, although I’m not sure just what they’re according to it.
Got here a little late
Just reading through the comments and this made me laugh for about a minute.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 9, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Braun
A real teammate would’ve dropped that.
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don't forget
the Brewers started losing when Braun was called up last year.
Coincidence? I think not.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't use the word "traitor" lightly, but Ryan Braun is the greatest traitor in American history
He's extremely quick and good.
Maybe a Guitar Hero battle instead
And Jeff? I knew you didn’t like him that much, but this?! You just lost out on a weekend…
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Between all the banter
you guys are voting for Corey, right?
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
yes, right now
I was about to ask:
those of you who are voting, who are you voting for on the AL side?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure
Longoria has the highest KUG of those on the ballot
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Guillen of the Royals
Have to keep the small-market mojo going
I understand, but...
Tampa Bay and Florida definitely qualify as small-market; they’re lucky to draw 8000 fans a game. It’s like Montreal, except littered with Q-Tips!
Writing in Gabe Gross, because I can’t let go.
Coffee is for closers
by drezdn on Jul 9, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How do you guys pronounce Longoria in your head?
Long-goria or Long-oria?
He's extremely quick and good.
I just try
avoid catching it ;-)
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I'm not
I don’t want him to go to New York. I want him to stay a Brewer!
P.S.: I voted a lot before the game.
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You know, the All Star game is coming up
are we going to do the home run derby thread complete with guesses of the location references that Berman will use? I remember I won last year with sausalito
I try to give everyone an example to aspire to
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Cameron dropped that on purpose
Sheets wants the strike outs
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
He owed Sheets one
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Cubs
might not control Harden next year after all
I wonder
Did the Cubs not realize that, or were they just unable to pull off the trade quicker?
Coffee is for closers
the only
way i can see a team giving him more than 7 mill is if he either stays healthy the rest of the year or has an electric post season
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
huh?
7 mil is nothing for a pitcher like that. Unless he gets an injury that would keep him out for all of next year, someone will pay him that.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
i guess i could see that, I’m not sure i would want my club to make that kind of deal unless it was for 2 yrs or something like that
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
nothing's stopping them from doing that
If he decides to elect free agency, the new team wouldn’t be restricted to just offering a one-year contract.
as a reference point
Livan Hernandez is making $5MM this year. Kenny Rogers is getting $8MM. Heck, the Cubs are paying Lieber $3.5MM.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
true
so correct me if im wrong but the Cubs could decline the option and then give him whatever he wins in arb. to control him for another year?
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
they could...
or they could come up with some kind of extension, or maybe harden wouldn’t opt out. sounds like a lot of things are still up in the air.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cub Reporter guy doesn't seem to think...
that declining the option would necessarily void the trade demand potential:
Of course the Cubs could always decline their $7M club option for 2009, making Harden merely eligible for arbitration post-2008 (but that won’t happen, because there is no way he gets less than $7M in arbitration, or else if the Cubs decline their club option and Harden doesn’t think he can get more than $7M, he’ll just demand a trade).
But as another cubs fan points out
say Harden demands a trade- if the Cubs deal him then he wouldnt become a FA and get a new deal. So unless he loathes the Cubs or Chicago I dont see why he would do that
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the problem from the Cubs' perspective will be...
that everybody will know they have to trade him by March, so the Cubs won’t have any leverage to get a decent trade return.
That probably won't be too bad
they’ll have plenty of leverage from all those teams bidding against each other. If Harden is desirable enough to think he’ll demand more than $7MM (i.e., not hurt or imploded in the second half), Jim Hendry will be a very popular guy at the winter meetings.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
but
if i am right about this and Harden forces the cubs hand they could send him to a terrible team and he wouldnt have a new deal because he would have got his trade therefore losing his right to FA
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
According to the CBA - Article XX(C)(2)(b)
Harden could designate six teams he doesn’t want to be traded to.
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overall
i would have to say I doubt he tries to demand a trade but you never know- it does seem like he has the right to do so, but the Cubs would just trade him before letting him walk (would he be a Type A FA?)
by ACB on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
as far as I gather...
the Cubs wouldn’t be eligible for FA compensation if Harden walks due to the trade demand.
yeah, I was about to amend/correct myself on that...
I shouldn’t try to do game theory in my head post-midnight.
Too bad the Brewers didn't acquire Sabathia sooner
:)
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injured?
I read somewhere that Harden’s fastball was high 88-90 his last two starts, whereas it is usually in the mid-90s. Anybody know anything about this?
by keephopealive on Jul 9, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw some graphs somewhere and I according to those it wasn’t true. He sits around 91 or 92 and every now and then hits 96 or so. At least that’s what the information presented said.
cool, thanks
after I typed it, I tried finding where I had read it, but I couldn’t
by keephopealive on Jul 9, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
apropos of nothing
Anybody else reading the Cracked Bats columns (no, it’s not another maple lament) on MiLB.com? Always interesting historical stuff in there.
i just showed up
is he actually looking good, or are our swings looking awful, or have we just been hitting it at people?
by keephopealive on Jul 9, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh-oh...
from today’s game preview at the official site:
The Braves have picked up right-hander Julian Tavarez, who had already been designated for assignment this season by the Red Sox and Brewers. “I recommended him,” Brewers manager Ned Yost said. “I told Bobby [Cox, Braves manager] that he’s very rusty, but his stuff is still good.”
D'oh
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
this will be
the heart of your order’s 3rd time seeing Glendon freakin Rusch
i predict 13 brewer runs
Hardy is cooling off, Damn!
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Randy Choate with an eventful evening down in Nashville.
2 IP, 1 ER, 2 H (double, homer), 2 BB, 3 K.
Yeah, amazing how those averages can be low when a guy's got 11 at bats
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Kendall
is a badass.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
Now if Kendall gets on Branyan can give the team the lead
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Who is up in the pen?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Shouse against three righties in the heart of the order?
No thanks
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fine;)
be that way;)
I still stand on rather Gagne than mota.
And frankly, Shouse would be better than mota against 3 righties:P
Koshansky gets the Mark Reynolds treatment
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Nice play by Hart
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
He’s on my team
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Crap
So we need a few back to back homers or a grand stand – it’s not that far outta reach though
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Nevermind...
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Oops
That was supposed to be Slam.
Friends don’t let friends drink and type
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Trade this piece of #^$%
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
BS has high praise for Hart
“He is one of the better throwing arms in this Brewers outfield among some very good throwing arms.”
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul."
fuck Mota
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
what's his problem?
Seems to me that he has a slider that doesn’t slide? where is dixieflatline when you need him?
by keephopealive on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I doesn't matter
I don’t want him around to wait for him to figure it out!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Looks like we have a winner
in the “Who’s gonna lose his roster spot when Suppan comes back” sweepstakes.
we need a stat
this shouldn’t show up as just a loss for sheets… I think any reliever that comes into a one run game and lets it get out of hand, should earn a “Mota”
by keephopealive on Jul 9, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Because the team would've won otherwise?
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Welp
I hope Atkins can make it back up to the plate for another dinger off Mota.
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
it's time we send Mota
to the Elmers Dessens, Greg Aquino graveyard
Can't wait
to hear Ned’s explination about why he still has confidence in Mota and will continue to use him in pressure situations.
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I have a feeling
Gagne wouldn’t have faired much better. It might be good to right rid of both of them
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
What happen to the moo icon?
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I got bored of it
I love cows (and kows) but I felt like I needed a change.
Was the moo cow better?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
No, was just curious
Change is good! Partucilarily if it involves moooving Mota As$ out of Milwaukee forever.
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I’d prefer to hear him say “our whole lineup sucks” in order to support his guys.
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Don't we already have a guy named
Turnbow that can do similar things from the mound.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Can Gamel pitch?
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hell, let Uke pitch!
The Wallbangers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I think he's so drunk that he'd walk most of the opposition
It’d be pretty fun to watch though, as long as he does commentary on each of his pitches.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Is Brooks still available?
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
I'm pretty sure
that I throw soft enough that I can get guys out easier than Mota
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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 9, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
I’d prefer to use the team’s best relievers in every game in which the team has a lead or the other team is in a save situation. Three or four guys should be able to handle 110 or so appearances a year.
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It is not always about usage
The staffing decisions (or lack of them) played a big role here. How much data does he need to see Mota aint got it??
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the thing is...
Ned seems to like having guys slide down the bullpen pecking order one step at a time rather than demote them to irrelevance right away (especially with veterans, even if the negative evidence is pretty overwhelming). Hence we’ll likely get “Mota, 8th Inning Guy™” followed by “Mota, generic close-game pitcher” followed by “Mota, fungible middle reliever” followed by “Mota, mop-up guy” over an excrutiatingly long period of time.
Quality Starts
They should start calling the stat the Sheets, in tribute to all of the games where he pitched decently, but the hitters couldn’t hit.
Coffee is for closers
that's the fricking gallardo
he never gets any support
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2008 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Huntsville's having a good night
Removing Mike Bell, the rest of the 8 position players at 20/37.
He's extremely quick and good.
Shouse must wish he had a Games Finished bonus in his contract
That’s likely going to be his 10th non-save game finish already.
If he doesn't
He’s likely got a games pitched bonus, so I’m sure he’s covered.
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C'mon Mikey
We need more runs
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
A split wouldn't be too bad
Let’s just hope the boys can pull off a win tomorrow
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Howard HR
gives the Phillies the lead over St. Louis in the 8th.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
At worst, 1.5 games out of the playoffs with 71 to play?
I think we’ve still got a shot here.
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Hopefully only 0.5 out
Feliz adds another homer in the 8th for Philadelphia.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
by SRB on Jul 9, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ned on Mota
The bullpen is doing well, so they’ll cover for him till he gets it together. Stuff is so good its mystifying that he’s having problems.
On Rusch: he had a great game tonight. Gotta take your hat off.
Did he actually use the words "tip your cap"
in direction of Glendon Rusch, or are you predicting? I haven’t heard his press conference.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
Rusch's performance tonight
Baseball karma for that 7-inning no-hitter we got from Bush a couple weeks ago. Cardinals lost, 0.5 out of the WC, I’m not too bummed.
"My thing is that you guys eat meat all day and you can't hit a ball. That's my thing." - P. Fielder
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