Game Thread #119: Nats (44-74) at Brewers (67-51)
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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PrintWashington Nationals at Milwaukee Brewers, Aug 11, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
Today's matchup is Garrett Mock and Dave Bush. Mock, you may remember, joined the Nats organization a couple years ago when Washington sent Livan Hernandez to the D-Backs. Mock is a decent prospect, and had a great year at Triple-A, posting an equivalent FIP of 4.12.
Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Braun still out, Counsell at third, Kendall starting
The usual batting order applies.
Ronnie Belliard’s not playing first for the Nationals today. Too bad.
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I'm not sure Kory Casto's any better
alarming that, for quite a while, Casto and Michael Hinckley were the Nats top prospects.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Belliard
is one of my (if not the one) least favorite Brewers of all time. Say what you want about grit, and I will agree, but that jerk had a complete inability to keep his head in the game.
by Braunstalker on Aug 11, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Counsell
Maybe Ned is concerned with defense? Other than Russell pissing him off somehow what other reason could there be?
Like ususal, it's all about grit
Gabe Kapler is no Jason Kendall, and with Rivera’s obscene offensive performance we had a negative KUG yesterday. So it’s grit catch-up day.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 11, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I've had a terrible day so far, a Brewers win would help a little
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Rickie
That’s his first home run in Miller Park all season, isn’t it?
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I know no one has suggested that Braun is out for the season, but if he was, would you sign Barry Bonds?
Coffee is for closers
Could a young team like the Brewers
Handle a circus that would make the Favre thing look like a tea party coming too town every night.
That is what would worry me this team seems to have pretty good chemistry(for what that is worth) When Prince is not assaulting our pitchers could having ESPN camped in their locker room every day upset things?
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
Dunn to DBacks?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/08/dunn-traded-to.html
That really doesn’t make much sense to me.
he's fake?
kinda like marissa miller, braun’s new girlfriend
I read an article that said that he strained his back “swinging” in the first inning. Ryan: aren’t you aware you have a baseball game to play?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
a game to play tangent
This morning I heard a clip of Piniella saying that he doesn’t usually address the team but when they go down to Florida he was going to remind them of why they were there followed by a clip of DeRosa talking about spending time on the beach and how you can forget that you have batting practice coming up.
They only chose her for the commercial because.....
......her last name is “Miller.”
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Hart vs Counsell
Hart: Efficiently pounds the first fastball over-the-plate that he sees over the fence.
Counsell: Grittilly fouls off half-a-dozen consecutive fastballs over-the-plate before striking out.
I’d bet dollars-to-donuts that most “baseball men” would call Counsell’s the “better at-bat”. No?
It's called "playing the percentages."
well...
the runner was on first, not in “scoring position”
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
they were wondering last week why it's called the dog days of summer
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
is hitting the opposing pitcher considered gritty?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
-2.0 KUG but if he gets out of a bases loaded, no outs jam that is plus 2.5 KUG otherwise known as a Vargas.
So just how many KUG were generated that inning?
I mean, the unassisted force out at home has to be worth a few KUG, right?
yeah...
what’s with that? unassisted force? not an unassisted tag out? Kendall actually ran BACK to the plate?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Just listening on the radio
But I don’t think it was hit very far from the plate. Last year, a play like that would’ve involved stepping on the plate, then throwing the ball to first for an impossible double play only to have the ball hit the runner and the guy from second coming around to score.
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Man, Nats fans have to be mad right now
I’d be frustrated if the Brewers had the bases loaded with no one out and couldn’t score.
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Is there such a thing as Nats fans
I mean I have heard of them but have you ever really seen one ;)
Just teasing I actually feel for the Nats fans because we lived that life for quite awhile here.
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
With Griffy and Dunn gone
How much money have the Reds freed up for next year?
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
enough to bring margie shott back from the dead
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
They paid Dunn 13 Million and Griffey 12.5 according to Cots.
They’ll still owe a bunch to CoCo though.
Coffee is for closers
$23.5 million
$25.5 million in salary would’ve been freed up anyway when both were free agents at the end of the season, but they only have to pay half of Griffey’s $4M buyout now.
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Oops, 21.5 million
Drezdn’s right about the salaries above. I can add most of the time, I swear.
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Err, wait...
I give up. I’m tired of looking at numbers today. :(
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you sure?
I get $25.5. minus half of $4 = 23.5, so you were right to begin with?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was right to begin with
Like I said, I’m tired of looking at numbers.
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Hopefully they will spend it as wisely as they did last off season
I was in Cincinnati last week for the Wednesday game boy the Reds fans are in an ugly mood about that team and I do not blame them
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
If they dump Baker, I think they could have a good team. They’ve got some decent pitchers to build off of.
Coffee is for closers
I thought they should have kept the interm guy they had last year
The Reds were playing good ball towards the end of last season.
Harang came back off the DL and got lit up yesterday But they do have Bruce to build around and the two young pitchers
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
apparently grant balfour is doing quite well in TB
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
yep
i noticed that about a month ago. but yep, there’s a MLB article up about it now.
man…did he ever suck for the Brewers!
almost like he’s a Pena – he needs the pressure of closing to actually do good.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i say almost
because he’s done well as a non-closer too.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Gabe Gross is doing well down there also
MLB and Fox nightmare a Milwaukee vs. Tampa WS but no rainouts or cold weather games lol
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
Gabe
I swear I turn on Baseball Tonight once week and hear he drove in the winning run again.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 11, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
His line in Tampa would make Rickie proud
.232/.322/.446
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Yep
McClung turned out to be alright for us, so it was a pretty good deal on both sides.
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Pirates coming back on Mets
Already playing the Wild Card Division race
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
So should Ned let Bush bat in the bottom of the 6th?
Pro: Still under 100 pitches, 8 – 9 – 1 batters coming up, bullpen had to throw extra innings yesterday
Con: It’s Ned
Con: It's Bush
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Anything to avoid using David Riske
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Isn't Riske
in China under an assumed name?? ;-)
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Rockapella
is performing in China?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 11, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No
he is on the US olympic team
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I'm pretty sure
he is hangin’ out with rockapella, but I suppose it could be both.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 11, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yost has got to be racist or somthing to not give that guy more playing time.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
I think it's probably more liking how Kendall works with the pitching staff
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If Rivera doesn’t start getting at least more pinch hit appearances after the call ups in September, I’d tend to believe you.
Coffee is for closers
That’s the whole backup catcher thing. I wonder who the emergency catcher on the team is. I think Bush caught at some point in college.
Well he could
but I would think it would be big CC.
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
I'm pretty sure it's still Graffanino
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the pitching staff thing I assumed.........
.......and Kendall showed a good arm and defense during the beginning of the year, so you would obviously expect him to get way more starts than Rivera. -BUT- With Rivera’s offense so far he should be getting more opportunities to play, weather its pinch-hitting or starting.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
I'm curious what will happen if Braun's injury lingers
Looking at the schedule over the next two weeks it appears they should be able to give him some time off due to the level of the competition. Outside of maybe the 3 games in LA at the end of the week, there really isn’t any reason to push him back until we get the Cards again on the 26th. That being the case I wouldn’t mind them throwing him on the 15 day DL retroactive yesterday if it is severe enough, and maybe call another outfielder up…maybe Dillon, Gibbons, or Nix?
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
Though there are open 40-man spots, and Jay Gibbons has had a lot more ML success than Nix
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Anybody can play left field.
Let’s find out if “Mat Gamel” is a member of the set “Anybody”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Cutter's
been swinging a pretty good stick
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 11, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
let's wait til he clears 200
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
.200/.327/.329!
But that’s a massive .221/.344/.350 after luck. I wish you’d let us run MLEs for the AZL kids.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
not that I don't "let you"
I don’t know what the appropriate factors are. there’s very little in-season movement between short-season leagues and full-season leagues, so not much to go on unless you start looking and multiple years of data, which raises a whole new set of problems.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Now you know how all those psychologists feel
“If we could just take one twin and lock it in a room with no contact for the first ten years of its life…”
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How about Nelson
That way when Gabe gets the OF start Ned has another 3B option to throw into the platoon.
"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 11, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got here
Looking at the PBP, this made me laugh:
- K. Casto walked
- W. Nieves singled to center, K. Casto to second
- G. Mock hit by pitch, K. Casto to third, W. Nieves to second
- W. Harris grounded into fielder’s choice, K. Casto out at home, W. Nieves to third, G. Mock to second
- P. Orr struck out swinging
- R. Zimmerman grounded out to second
Granted, it’s still Willie Harris and Pete Orr, but bases loaded for the top of the order and you get no runs? Ouch.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
The Nats announcers are really baffled by Bush pitching well
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Well, its a good thing he let Bush hit if he was gonna pull him the next inning after two batters.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
You won't be saying that
In the 14th inning while there’s still a position player to hit on the bench instead of having been used in the bottom of the 6th. ;-)
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Ahhhh.....
.........I’d just send Benny up there. You know how hot he is right now.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Prince no surprise
Hardy on the other hand!!! ugh!
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Jim and the rest of us
Have no Concept
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
taking care of business
As a Cubs fan, I was really hoping that the series with the Cubs would drive the Brewers to under-performing against the slop that they’re playing now, but they just keep winning. I have to respect that.
As long as Cardinals and NL East teams continue to be left in the dust, I think I’m actually happy to see some competition for the only minimally important division win. It will be more exciting, at least.
nah, "happy" is too strong
Because I’m still paranoid.
Pretty sure we have a bunch of well-rested right-handed relievers that can fall behind righties 3-0
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is there a picture of shouse
as Merlin the Magician?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
Dunn is a D-Back.
Which reminds me…Dunn’s OPS+ is 131. Carlos Quentin’s is 147. What did Arizona get for Quentin again?
Also, cheese.
I was really confused about how quickly he got written off
And not that Dan Haren hasn’t been brilliant for them, but they traded way too much for him. Not a great offseason for Josh Byrnes.
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One of the guys they sent to Oakland for Haren
Chris Carter, I think.
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yep, Chris Carter
Not a good move, that one.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
seeing in play run(s)
on pitch 1 next to Craig Counsell’s name had me wondering if gameday f*cked up.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad Counsell isn't faster
He could’ve put the contestant in the team-hitting-for-the-cycle-in-the-inning contest in good shape with Cameron coming up.
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Ah, a sister stat to the KUG?
The Gagne Unit of Suck?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
how high
does a bases loaded walk register on this scale?
by Oakland Brewer Fan on Aug 11, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Given the 6-1 lead,
And the Speed of Runners on Base (SoRoB) at a balmy 58, my nerds in the auditorium are reporting that the super computers are showing a 1.3 on the scale, which runs from -2 to 2.
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
I'm going to put up a flair/flare and phase/faze usage guide
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
a gagne inning from yesterday
is not necessarily the maximum gagne inning
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to be picky, but...
Weeks could have been a bit more aggressive there, no?
It's all entertainment
The Nats announcer was riding him for complaining about the high strike
Striking out looking there is pretty stupid.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
nice at bat Rickie
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
Didn't he just win a gold medal
In the 4×100 men’s relay team last night?
If he's the Prince, then I'm the King.
yep
that’s how he swam back so fast.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
“The Potomac Nationals: Nationals Today, Nationals Tomorrow”
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
new slogan
“Potomac Nationals: 25 miles away, or just 500 points of MLE OPS”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
have you seen the *potomac* nats OPS this year?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 11, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I forgot Andrew Lefave was on that team
Johnny Estrada also made a cameo appearance.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
did you see the comments from the manager?
something along the lines of “I don’t want to use him ever again” and “I didn’t want to use him there, but I sorta had to, given the number of pitchers I had already blown through”
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
“We can’t even hide him now,” Washington manager Manny Acta said. “He comes into situations like this and he’s just not making pitches.”
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Did he just say that on TV?
I’ve had to keep the game on mute most of the afternoon…
It's all entertainment
Unless something terrible happens, the Brewers will now have the best run differential of wild card contenders
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wow...
that’s a far cry from the end of the 1st half of the season when we were -3 runs (or something like that) in the differential
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I draw your attention to yesterday's FanGraph again
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Coincidentally, this girl needs a new boyfriend. Maybe we can set them up.
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