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Game Thread #122: Brewers (70-51) at Padres (46-74)

Milwaukee Brewers at San Diego Padres, Aug 14, 2008 2:35 PM CDT


Here's a fun indicator of the relative strength of the NL Central and West divisions: the Dodgers and D-Backs are tied in first place at 61-59.  You know who else has that record?  The Astros, who are 12 games back, and 8.5 games behind us.

That said, of course, the universe will reward me for pointing out the weakness of the division by having the Padres crush the Brewers.  (If I admit that, do I cancel it out?)  The pitching matchup is certainly one worth watching: Ben Sheets takes on Jake Peavy.

Game time is 2:35 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.  Against all common sense, Craig Counsell has a .955 career OPS (in 39 PAs) against Peavy.

Go Brewers!

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whatever else you think about Yost

I’ll say this much: If there’s a reason to play Counsell, he’s not going to miss it.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 14, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

That implies Yost uses logic on his lineup decision.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 14, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

glory

I have an afternoon off of work with Peavy and Sheets pitching. Pure awesomeness.

YoGanna win with Gallardo on the mound.

by Griswald on Aug 14, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

If they do this ad for Weeks instead of James Jerry

Will people immediately know it’s a giveaway, or will they confuse it with an attempt to turn a double play and save a Sabathia shutout?

Proudly rock your Tararrel in public.

by MooseHaas on Aug 14, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Hardy Bobble?

That sounds vaguely pornopgraphic.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Today's Lineup

R Durham 2B
C Counsell SS
L Nix LF
P Fielder 1B
C Hart RF
B Hall 3B
M Cameron CF
J Kendall C
B Sheets P

by Rendezvous on Aug 14, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

It is daytime

It makes me wonder what Ned would use in a Sunday night game.

by morineko on Aug 14, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

his head

would explode from the insanity of the circumstances

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Aug 14, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there has been a lineup this year that nobody complained about. Either to many strikeouts or no power.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 14, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, Nix's first start should be in the #3 hole

while facing Jake Peavy. I don’t see a problem……

/gently weeps on keyboard

It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.

by Adam P on Aug 14, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind the lineup

with Peavy pitching. Maybe I am just drugged up by the winning streak, but I like Durham and Counsell at the top not swinging at bad pitches. Nix, I can’t really comment on.

by Braunstalker on Aug 14, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell of a 1-2-3…

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on Aug 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow. That is just awful.

Against Peavy, no less. I guess Ned feels 8 in a row is enough. I’d rather see Rivera and Kapler at 2-3 then this travesty.

Brewers fan lost in South Carolina.

by SCBrewer on Aug 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll take the other side (since no one else will)

Kapler has played the last 5 games (most in a row all year)- Nix gives the option of a left handed bat against a real tough RHP and lets Kapler get a day off after a night game before a tough series in Los Angeles.

Durham should be an obvious against a tough RHP.

There is no way that Yost was not playing Counsell today – basically leaving a choice of Hardy or Hall as the other guy. Hardy has been struggling bad the last 2 weeks and while that still is probably better than a Hall vs. Peavy matchup — I don’t think its a huge difference the way Hardy has been lately.

Kendall playing everyday is nothing new.

I guess I don’t think the lineup is that big of a deal.

by Supertramp on Aug 14, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, at least the Brewers have fared decently against

opposing aces, the likes of Johan Santana, Brandon Webb, Tim Lincecum, etc. The lesser name off speed pitchers are the ones who give us trouble. So maybe Peavy isn’t going to be so bad after all?

by Rendezvous on Aug 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

interesting

Giles is batting 12-23 against Sheets. The only other Padre to have faced him is Greg Maddux. Weird.

by oconnobe on Aug 14, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't want to rush to judgment or anything, but ...

… Yost should have written down that lineup, looked it over and then Nix-ed it.

A little rough. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 14, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Why does Yost hate Sheets? Is Sheets a Rusty Wallace fan or something?

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 14, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone should run the numbers, but it did feel that way. It does better than our Friday team, that’s for sure.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

Without checking that each lineup on Sunday is a “Sunday lineup,” I count 11 wins and 8 losses. Not bad!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit Rickie!!!! I mean Ray.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Nothing better....

…than watching on MLB.tv at work and getting paid for a Sheets vs Peavy match-up.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Mentioning that means you’ve got to kick money into the BCB tailgate fund.

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

otherwise we tell your boss;)

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha. Will do. Tell me how to get it done.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess with

JK and Sheets to follow why not take a chance on 3-0. Still could have took one.

by Flag Up on Aug 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peavys fastball...

…moves all over the place. He is nasty.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good call, I noticed that too. Must be a field trip.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It sounds like a roller coaster in the left field stands

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Precisely.

Weekday afternoon day games here in SoCal are usually filled with youth groups. The teams sell large blocks of tickets at low prices to fill out the stands for games with low demand. The good news is that the beer lines are usually pretty short.

by Brew Angel on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

There has been screaming the past two games as well. I was wondering if it was the excitement of doing the wave.

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

They sound like American Idol fans

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

They just showed a shot of them. looks like some kind of club.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did Nixie do?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Sheets is coming close to balking

Hopefully, there’ll be no more baserunners, so we can’t check.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see Ben spreading around the fly ball outs

Gotta make sure every outfielder gets a chance to play!

by Brew Angel on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Dammit Rickie

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 14, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Nix is probably in the 3 spot so all the other backups regulars can stay in their usual spots.

At least we have our best hitting pitcher out there.

I’m ok with loading up on the lefties against a guy like Peavy. Hopefully Sheets won’t need more than a couple of runs to work with.

by grant76 on Aug 14, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Just checked Peavy's splits

Righties are hitting .186/.254/.312
Lefties are hitting .274/.335/.401

I wonder if CC and Manny could pinch hit this game?

by grant76 on Aug 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sheets walks Peavy?

Okay.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

The real question is

How do you let the pitcher work the count full?

by Brew Angel on Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looked like strike 3 to me

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

I thought it was a ball. Certainly too close for a 3-2 pitch to the opposing pitcher.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers sign another draft pick.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Dedrick will start out at third base in the Milwaukee organization, his primary position at Hillcrest, but said he may be moved to the outfield

sounds familiar

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good sound

I love when you can hear what the umps are yelling at the dugouts.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Odds that Nedward gets tossed today?

by dickie_thon on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. Looks like a beautiful day in San Diego. No reason to watch from the clubhouse. Unless he wants to pack up his stuff early.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Psst!

It’s Nedgar. :)

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I don’t think Peavy was pleased with the zone earlier today when Craig Counsell walked.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brett Lawrie

I uploaded video of Brett Lawrie’s first Olympic at-bat to BCB’s facebook page.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

And it's running at almost double-speed

Haha, I’ll try to get that fixed…

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

Let him be the anti-Mike Hargrove a little longer.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

pitch 3 was a strike

whereas pitch 1 was a bit low for my taste….

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus

who’s the gritty bastard that got to 2B safely?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Canadian Jason Kendall.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 14, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

audio

the audio on branyan’s shot (5/18?) is pure annoyingly loud static
so, fix that one while you’re at it too:)

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball sucks

This is boring. Bring me water polo.

It's all entertainment

by Lake County on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm following on gamecast....

But I’m guessing the question is something like:

a) What’s the differerence btwn a 2 seam and 4 seam fastball?
b) Why do LHP do better against left handed hitters and vice versa?
c) What is a balk?
d) Why do pitch counts matter?

And the question was likely from Brian in Boscobel – I swear he writes in at least 5 times a month

by Supertramp on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This time it Couns!

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

What happens if everyone on the Sabathia PTBNL list is injured?

by Getting Yosted on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

presumably, Cleveland gets an injured player, right?

by keephopealive on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

But Cleveland does not have to pick a guy until January.

by grant76 on Aug 14, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nix

Now 0 for his last 19, going back to September 2006.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

*Putting out TheJay Bat-signal*

When was the last game in which there were exactly two errors, one on each pitcher?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

It was a perfect throw though

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's first in 2007 at going from 1st to 3rd

First to second, ehh, not so much.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Cameron

think he is Hart???

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 14, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone needs a sign that says “PEAVY: 116”

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

6.5 vs 6 innings

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Super Karate Death Monkey Car

This is a great game.

It's all entertainment

by Lake County on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

In honor of PagsBrewCrew

That’s a should-be-earned-but-is-unearned run against Peavy.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

geez

heaven forbid, especially this season, but is Sheets destined to never win over 12 games? This is getting ridiculous.

by keephopealive on Aug 14, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Tough to win more than 12 games when

can’t pitch over 143 innings the previous 3 yrs.

by Flag Up on Aug 14, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alert play by Kendall

Telling Shouse to tag Gerut after no safe call.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Listening to the radio call now. Crazy play.

by JimiLayne on Aug 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

in the middle of an AB to giles

Gameday better f*cking have that on, even though it’s not a g’damned scoring play.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his hand did!

But the ump was watching the ball bounce away!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Grrr

Is that why we got Durham? To ground out to second, where Rickey would have popped out?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

apparently

nyx can do that pretty well too

has he been sitting near durham?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it's grittier

I’ll give him that.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA and the Rock say

the baserunner should have gotten up and touched the bag, to make sure the ump sees it.

I’m not sure that’s good advice.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

definitely should have without a safe sign

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I mean, it makes sense to do so. But in the heat of the play, without knowing what’s going on, I don’t know if I’d want to give the umpire any reason to think I was out, like by not touching the plate originally.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the ball got away (which you'd know by the pitcher scrambling away)

So you couldn’t be out on the play.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless

the ball got away after the tag had been made?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which he might have not seen in the tangle of bodies and baseballs,

or because the ump just hadn’t made the call right away. Whoa, I think I’m getting lost in my hypothetical.

I guess, I can see a situation where, in a play similar to this one, the umpire hasn’t made an out call to, I dunno, make sure the ball was caught before being dropped, or to run around the heap of bodies for a different angle at whether the plate was touched. In that moment, it might be unwise to touch the plate a second time, to acknowledge that, well, maybe you didn’t touch home plate originally.

After the ball skitters away, OK, go ahead. I guess, I wouldn’t give the ump a reason to think I was out.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prince should steal.

:)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

/me sends out psy-waves to Ned

Bat Rivera instead of Kendall.
Bat Rivera instead of Kendall.

Bat JJ in Shouse’s slot
Bat JJ in Shouse’s slot

I did my duty.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

What a good idea

Retire and let Ted Simmons take over
Retire and let Ted Simmons take over

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 14, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

my psy didn’t work….

clearly there’s a reason I’m not a major league manager

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

if they score here

I predict that Ned will provide another classic quote like “if you knew anything about baseball” in the postgame.

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh

Should’ve left Shouse in to face the righty and then the switch-hitter who rakes against lefties instead!

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

clearly

…how many switch hitters do they have in their lineup?

do we have ANY (aside from Durham that is…)?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

not suggesting that

by ol Pete on Aug 14, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am pro-Cameron!

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Mike Hammerin'

He really likes PETCO apparently.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

what would the girlfriend say about Cam

he already has a hit today, so he can’t get another? in which case, we should substitute in someone else with a similar average?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 14, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah well

Who needs 9-game winning streaks?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Bummer

atleast can watch the olympics, Brewers Free.

by Flag Up on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

So

How much will we all hear from TV and radio about how a series win on the West Coast is really, really good considering the past in SD & LA?

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Not me

I don’t watch or listen to anything that involves talkin’ heads, talking about the Brewers.

by Flag Up on Aug 14, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Post-game thread for following Cubs and/or Cards action.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 14, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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