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We Need a New Stat

Since this is the board that came up with the invaluable stat "KUG" maybe after a few cocktails and some thought, some of the more intelligent and creative people on this board can come up with a special stat for Rickie Weeks. 

Something along the line of DiPSHiT - Double Plays that Should Have been Turned.

Rickie cost the team and CC (and most importantly my fantasy team) a run last night and forced CC to throw a few more pitches because of his little 'bobble' turning the DP in the 4th.

I know that for some really retarded reason, you can't assume a double play so it doesn't count as an error - but Rickie has cost the team a lot of outs this year with his inability to turn the routine 6-4-3 or even 4-6-3 DPs, and those errors should be tracked.  Yes they are errors - they cost the team outs.

For the record, I think that the easiest solutions would be to assume the DP when tracking errors.  As absolutely subjective as an error/hit call by the official scorer is already, I don't see how assuming the DP is any less subjective.  Besides, this isn't 1908, it is 2008 and when you have a middle infield clearing 6-7 figures a year, I know that everyone in the stadium, dug out, press box, bar, and couch assume the DP on a one hopper to the SS.  The official scorer should too.

 

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What about giving him credit on DP that he turned that others would have not.

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by stork02 on Aug 14, 2008 8:12 AM CDT   0 recs

Sorry but I don’t see very many (if any) of non-routine web gem caliber DP’s that get turned by Rickie.

Out of range plays for a singular out – yes, I see those, but not for a DP

by Saberilliterate on Aug 14, 2008 8:21 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Double plays

Weeks is third among second basemen in the National League in total double plays (65 in 94 games). I wouldn’t say he has an inability to turn them. Sure, he struggles with some, but more often than not he turns them fine. It’s easier to remember when he screws up, though.

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by TheJay on Aug 14, 2008 11:06 AM CDT   0 recs

Sure, he struggles with some, but more often than not he turns them fine. It’s easier to remember when he screws up, though.

But that is why I want the stat – Is it just that I remember the ones he screws up? How many chances has he had to turn a DP and a bobble, off throw, double clutch, etc cost the team an out. That is part of what an error is right? An error either costs the team an out or allows a base runner to advance on a play when he otherwise would not have. Not turning the routine DP costs the team an out, yet it doesn’t show up in a box score.

65 also seems quite low. I remember some games where the crew turned 4-5 in a single game.

by Saberilliterate on Aug 14, 2008 2:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well...

Is it just that I remember the ones he screws up?

Most likely, yes.


I remember some games where the crew turned 4-5 in a single game.

See above. I’m guessing it will come as a surprise to you that the Crew has only turned 115 double plays this year, less than one per game on average. (Although that’s still more than the average NL team.)

by Zeyes on Aug 14, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

All I am saying is that if there was a stat, I could be proven wrong.

by Saberilliterate on Aug 14, 2008 7:54 PM CDT   0 recs

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