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Game Thread #124: Brewers (70-53) at Dodgers (63-59)

Mordecai_brown_tiny by Jeff Sackmann on in Game Threads

Milwaukee Brewers @ Los Angeles Dodgers


Is it just me, or LA where high-profile free-agents go to fly under the radar and play mediocre baseball?  Sure, Manny is the in the news now, but there'll be much less drama (I suspect) now that he's out of Boston.  Even somebody like Rafael Furcal, who had a great season before getting hurt, seems like he disappeared from the headlines.

This occurred to me because of tonight's starter, Derek Lowe.  Lowe is good, not great, and I feel like this is about the fifth time I've heard his name since he left Boston after the 2004 season.  Maybe I'm just succumbing to the ESPN east-coast bias. 

The Brewers will send Dave Bush to the mound against Lowe.  Bush's ERA is all the way down to 4.35--it seems like he can't decide whether to make projection systems look bad because they're too optimistic, or bad because they're too pessimistic.  My system forecasted a 4.46 ERA for him, but I'll happily be wrong if his performance keeps heading in the same direction.

Game time is 9:10 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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Brewers Lineup

2B Ray Durham
SS JJ Hardy
LF Gabe Kapler
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Craig Counsell
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
P Dave Bush

Braun available for PH.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 6:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Because Rafael Furcal was having a bad year this year before getting injured.

by HRF on Aug 16, 2008 8:22 PM CDT   0 recs

Tom H

Is at it again. Sorry about the multiple quote boxes.

PERSONAL NOTE: After giving it careful consideration, I have decided to no longer interact in any way with posters in the “Comments” section of the Brewers Blog. I am adopting this policy because someone named Adam Jovanovic complained to my bosses that I had no business calling out individual posters by name in a harsh fashion when they attacked my integrity or without having their facts correct called me out on certain issues (such as why I didn’t know that Russell Branyan was injured when in fact he had been hurt the previous evening in batting practice when I wasn’t even with the team). Apparently, I hurt poor Mr. Jovanovic’s feelings.

So, rather than worry about hurting the feelings of other over-sensitive posters, I’ve decided not to interact with any of them. That way, I don’t have to watch my tongue when someone insults me or posts incorrect information, no matter how imbecilic it might be, in response to my blogs. So, for those who liked it when I interacted with posters, you can blame Mr. Jovanovic (I believe his e-mail is [deleted]). For those who thought I was out of line with some of my responses, you can thank him.

In a way, this complainer did me a big favor because it will save a lot of time and energy just to ignore the comments from posters on the Brewers Blog. I’ll simply post my blogs and leave it at that. I won’t even monitor the “Comments” secton. People can attack me all they want and I will not respond. Nor will I answer intelligent, thoughtful posters seeking further information. I decided not to pick and choose who I respond to. My bosses, who have been extremely supportive and very complimentary of the very successful Brewers Blog, have better things to do with their time than respond to people complaining about my comments, and this will spare them from having to do so. So, I’m sure they will appeciate this new policy as well.

So, you folks have at it. Attack each other, attack me, whatever makes you happy. I’ll stay out of the fray so no one such as Mr. Jovanovic gets his feelings hurt again. We certainly wouldn’t want that. — TH

Tom needs to understand that a blog includes interacting with the readers. If he’s got such thin skin he needs to make it just a new ticker. He (or jsonline) has since removed the full name and email.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 8:53 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't think its a thin skin

Its the waste of time responding to people with thin skins.

Blogs don’t have any requirement for interacting. FJM doesn’t for instance. I’d guess most don’t have much in the way of interaction.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tip

If you separate paragraphs inside the blockquote tags with < p > (minus the spaces surrounding the p), it will put it all inside one quote, with the proper spacing.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:08 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks. Formatting tips didn’t give any hints at how to fix it.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:10 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Come on

For a guy to call his boss about a fuckin sports blog is the epitome of trash.

It's all entertainment

by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 9:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

How professional of him

Waste of time responding to guys like Adam Jovanovic or not, that’s a pretty pathetic post.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 9:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

It's funny that he had to make a post about it

Why not just stop doing it? Same effect either way, except without the extremely petty “Ha! I got the last word!” bit.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He posted 5 more times in the thread too. So he’s just having a hissy fit.

I’d be salty that some guy went to my boss, but to act like an idiot just makes you look worse.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:24 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Or to shut off the noise from the whiny children who cry and write the editor.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No matter what he does, the kids will cry. Not engaging means that the swamp that the comments section of that blog can get even worse. It’ll probably be shut down before long.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, it does serve one purpose...

it prevents the next twenty threads from being filled with whiny “why aren’t you responding to meeeee anymore, TomH?!?!” posts. I find myself on the ol Pete side of this particular discussion for once…Tom (as usual) went way overboard in his post, but I do think a) he’s not the thinner-skinned one in that kerfuffle, and b) such major policy changes ought to be announced in some way.

(If Jeff unilaterally decided to make only main page posts anymore, wouldn’t some people here be wondering what’s up after a while? Now replace the mild-mannered and intelligent blog population here with the moron-infested cesspool at the JS in this analogy…)

by Zeyes on Aug 16, 2008 9:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, who are you calling mild-mannered and intelligent?

Seriously though, I think the proper course of action to stem a pissing contest is to stop pissing. This is Tom trying to get one last piss in, right between the eyes. I don’t think a “policy change” on something as informal and obviously ridiculous as the JS Blog’s comments section really needs to be discussed, and if it’s not being monitored anymore anyway, who cares what it’s filled with?

This doesn’t to anything to elevate the level of discourse or calm things down, in my opinion.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

(plus, as SgtClueLs pointed out, he's still responding!)

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:44 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh, okay.

I guess my point is mostly, from my experience in dealing with similar pack of internet idiots Tom’s general idea in dealing with it was right, it’s just that his execution scores minus 1000 points as usual.

by Zeyes on Aug 16, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t think posting the guys email and real name is wise. When you sign up for the Blog is states that they aren’t going to share your personal data with 3rd parties, and it’s used for internal audits only.

Tom posting his real name and email address seemed to violate that.

I could care less that Tom decided to stop responding.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:48 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Besides

I’ll bet you a nickel that he’s still reading the comments to his posts, just to see what people are saying about him. Maybe he’ll sign up under a different name and start defending himself.

His “final post” does have a “You’ll be sorry when I’m gone!” tone to it, like a 6-year-old might say. I bet right now he’s imagining all of the J-S posters gathered together saying “jeez, maybe we were too hard on the guy” and “if we apologized, do you think he’d come back?”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 17, 2008 7:57 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He’s ANNOUNCING it so the kids can fight amongst themselves. I hope he gets saltier.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:41 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

so...his bosses tell him to stop making personal attacks in the comments

so…he makes a personal attack in the body of his blog instead.

it’s so mature to up the ante.

I’m glad he wasn’t president of the US during the cold war, or we’d be fried chicken right now.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kapler came off the bag

Lame.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:12 PM CDT   0 recs

plus grit points for taking 2nd, minus for, uh, the lameness

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sigh

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:17 PM CDT   0 recs

Hmmm..

Perhaps it’s opposite world and we’ll claw back this time?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:18 PM CDT   0 recs

yeah, ditto on that thought

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:19 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

My girlfriend just left for the Village Pub

I told her to say hi to the Iron Maiden guy.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah ha! My chance to hit on her. Does she enjoy roofie-collatas?

Iron Maiden guy was at Pick N Save around 9, picked up some hopefully lucky Robinaid.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You see him often?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Apparently every time I leave the house. I think he stalking me. He’s inline with the devil you know.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice baserunning, Corey

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:30 PM CDT   0 recs

Congrats Craig

Career hit #1000 – 1170th player ever to get there.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 9:30 PM CDT   0 recs

How old will he be at this rate for #3000?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know

But he won’t look a day past 30.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 9:32 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I considered carding him when he came into my store to buy beer

I wasn’t sure if he’d find it funny though.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Currently, career hit #1124

He would be tied with Mike Lansing for 1000th all-time. Of course, there’s about a dozen active guys ahead of him that will move the bar I’m sure.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 9:49 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Something I didn't know

His manager for his two seasons with the Miami Miracle was none other than current Marlins manager Fredi Gonzalez.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Nomah!

Thanks! Think he’ll go on the DL because of it?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Serves him right for participating in that G2 commercial.

Sellout.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 16, 2008 9:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

TV crew has talked a lot about Ramirez's questionable defense

I think it’s funny they never mention his error total (one this year) while they (BA, mostly) rave about Braun being error-free.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 9:34 PM CDT   0 recs

I was impressed the way Manny knew and played the green monster. Its like baseball crossed with billiards.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Phelps

I think he swims in about 15 minutes.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 9:36 PM CDT   0 recs

Up after the commercial break.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 10:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Warming up now

Looks to start in a minute or so…

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 10:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

And it's done

Cool.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, amazing catch by Corey

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:40 PM CDT   0 recs

The one w/ the giant T.V.?

I did, and thought it was strange. Bill Hall cannot act.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 16, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

I guess I’ve missed the very beginning all of the 100+ times I’ve seen it.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:56 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, that rings a bell.........

……. I did hear him once, I just chose to forget it.

And on another note, the gameday video isn’t working for me. Anyone else have this problem?

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 16, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Seems like he gets interviewed pretty regularly. He’s got an unusual accent, or so it seems to me. i wonder if its a Florida accent.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

His brother Jemile sounds pretty normal

I’d guess that Rickie just has a small speech problem or public speaking problem.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

So they're not reshuffling the rotation at all?

That’s pretty stupid.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 9:51 PM CDT   0 recs

Sixth Starter?

Can McClung pitch the first inning in Bush’s next “start”

by statsllc on Aug 16, 2008 9:51 PM CDT   0 recs

You have to blow off the cobwebs and spray him with some WD-40 first.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 9:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Jason Kendall's right arm ends dreams

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 10:03 PM CDT   0 recs

USA!

Congrats Phelps!

8 GOLDS!

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 10:11 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm bored with him already

Let’s talk biathlon.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 10:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No

Trampoline.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 10:14 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m still bummed there’s no doubles table tennis.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 10:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure there is

It’s streaming online now.

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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 10:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What ya know.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 10:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

ah

The doubles competition has been eliminated from table tennis and will be replaced by a team contest at the Beijing Games.

Its actually pretty entertaining to watch and to play. I hope BK has a table for the party at his place.

by ol Pete on Aug 16, 2008 10:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The man-show olympics?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 16, 2008 10:16 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Manny being Manny

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Aug 16, 2008 10:28 PM CDT   0 recs

How many Mannys are there in the NL now?

A Parra/Ramirez matchup may have a lot more at stake now.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 17, 2008 8:01 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs