Game Thread #124: Brewers (70-53) at Dodgers (63-59)
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 16, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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PrintMilwaukee Brewers at Los Angeles Dodgers, Aug 16, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
Is it just me, or LA where high-profile free-agents go to fly under the radar and play mediocre baseball? Sure, Manny is the in the news now, but there'll be much less drama (I suspect) now that he's out of Boston. Even somebody like Rafael Furcal, who had a great season before getting hurt, seems like he disappeared from the headlines.
This occurred to me because of tonight's starter, Derek Lowe. Lowe is good, not great, and I feel like this is about the fifth time I've heard his name since he left Boston after the 2004 season. Maybe I'm just succumbing to the ESPN east-coast bias.
The Brewers will send Dave Bush to the mound against Lowe. Bush's ERA is all the way down to 4.35--it seems like he can't decide whether to make projection systems look bad because they're too optimistic, or bad because they're too pessimistic. My system forecasted a 4.46 ERA for him, but I'll happily be wrong if his performance keeps heading in the same direction.
Game time is 9:10 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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Brewers Lineup
2B Ray Durham
SS JJ Hardy
LF Gabe Kapler
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Craig Counsell
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
P Dave Bush
Braun available for PH.
Tom H
Is at it again. Sorry about the multiple quote boxes.
PERSONAL NOTE: After giving it careful consideration, I have decided to no longer interact in any way with posters in the “Comments” section of the Brewers Blog. I am adopting this policy because someone named Adam Jovanovic complained to my bosses that I had no business calling out individual posters by name in a harsh fashion when they attacked my integrity or without having their facts correct called me out on certain issues (such as why I didn’t know that Russell Branyan was injured when in fact he had been hurt the previous evening in batting practice when I wasn’t even with the team). Apparently, I hurt poor Mr. Jovanovic’s feelings.
So, rather than worry about hurting the feelings of other over-sensitive posters, I’ve decided not to interact with any of them. That way, I don’t have to watch my tongue when someone insults me or posts incorrect information, no matter how imbecilic it might be, in response to my blogs. So, for those who liked it when I interacted with posters, you can blame Mr. Jovanovic (I believe his e-mail is [deleted]). For those who thought I was out of line with some of my responses, you can thank him.
In a way, this complainer did me a big favor because it will save a lot of time and energy just to ignore the comments from posters on the Brewers Blog. I’ll simply post my blogs and leave it at that. I won’t even monitor the “Comments” secton. People can attack me all they want and I will not respond. Nor will I answer intelligent, thoughtful posters seeking further information. I decided not to pick and choose who I respond to. My bosses, who have been extremely supportive and very complimentary of the very successful Brewers Blog, have better things to do with their time than respond to people complaining about my comments, and this will spare them from having to do so. So, I’m sure they will appeciate this new policy as well.
So, you folks have at it. Attack each other, attack me, whatever makes you happy. I’ll stay out of the fray so no one such as Mr. Jovanovic gets his feelings hurt again. We certainly wouldn’t want that. — TH
Tom needs to understand that a blog includes interacting with the readers. If he’s got such thin skin he needs to make it just a new ticker. He (or jsonline) has since removed the full name and email.
I don't think its a thin skin
Its the waste of time responding to people with thin skins.
Blogs don’t have any requirement for interacting. FJM doesn’t for instance. I’d guess most don’t have much in the way of interaction.
Tip
If you separate paragraphs inside the blockquote tags with < p > (minus the spaces surrounding the p), it will put it all inside one quote, with the proper spacing.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Come on
For a guy to call his boss about a fuckin sports blog is the epitome of trash.
It's all entertainment
How professional of him
Waste of time responding to guys like Adam Jovanovic or not, that’s a pretty pathetic post.
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It's funny that he had to make a post about it
Why not just stop doing it? Same effect either way, except without the extremely petty “Ha! I got the last word!” bit.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
You're right, because antagonizing people usually shuts them up
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
No matter what he does, the kids will cry. Not engaging means that the swamp that the comments section of that blog can get even worse. It’ll probably be shut down before long.
Right, but there's not point in ANNOUNCING he's not engaging anymore except to make himself feel better
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Well, it does serve one purpose...
it prevents the next twenty threads from being filled with whiny “why aren’t you responding to meeeee anymore, TomH?!?!” posts. I find myself on the ol Pete side of this particular discussion for once…Tom (as usual) went way overboard in his post, but I do think a) he’s not the thinner-skinned one in that kerfuffle, and b) such major policy changes ought to be announced in some way.
(If Jeff unilaterally decided to make only main page posts anymore, wouldn’t some people here be wondering what’s up after a while? Now replace the mild-mannered and intelligent blog population here with the moron-infested cesspool at the JS in this analogy…)
Hey, who are you calling mild-mannered and intelligent?
Seriously though, I think the proper course of action to stem a pissing contest is to stop pissing. This is Tom trying to get one last piss in, right between the eyes. I don’t think a “policy change” on something as informal and obviously ridiculous as the JS Blog’s comments section really needs to be discussed, and if it’s not being monitored anymore anyway, who cares what it’s filled with?
This doesn’t to anything to elevate the level of discourse or calm things down, in my opinion.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
(plus, as SgtClueLs pointed out, he's still responding!)
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Heh, okay.
I guess my point is mostly, from my experience in dealing with similar pack of internet idiots Tom’s general idea in dealing with it was right, it’s just that his execution scores minus 1000 points as usual.
I don’t think posting the guys email and real name is wise. When you sign up for the Blog is states that they aren’t going to share your personal data with 3rd parties, and it’s used for internal audits only.
Tom posting his real name and email address seemed to violate that.
I could care less that Tom decided to stop responding.
Besides
I’ll bet you a nickel that he’s still reading the comments to his posts, just to see what people are saying about him. Maybe he’ll sign up under a different name and start defending himself.
His “final post” does have a “You’ll be sorry when I’m gone!” tone to it, like a 6-year-old might say. I bet right now he’s imagining all of the J-S posters gathered together saying “jeez, maybe we were too hard on the guy” and “if we apologized, do you think he’d come back?”
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
so...his bosses tell him to stop making personal attacks in the comments
so…he makes a personal attack in the body of his blog instead.
it’s so mature to up the ante.
I’m glad he wasn’t president of the US during the cold war, or we’d be fried chicken right now.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
My girlfriend just left for the Village Pub
I told her to say hi to the Iron Maiden guy.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Ah ha! My chance to hit on her. Does she enjoy roofie-collatas?
Iron Maiden guy was at Pick N Save around 9, picked up some hopefully lucky Robinaid.
Congrats Craig
Career hit #1000 – 1170th player ever to get there.
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I don't know
But he won’t look a day past 30.
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I considered carding him when he came into my store to buy beer
I wasn’t sure if he’d find it funny though.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Currently, career hit #1124
He would be tied with Mike Lansing for 1000th all-time. Of course, there’s about a dozen active guys ahead of him that will move the bar I’m sure.
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And what's Mike Lansing famous for?
Being drafted by a minor league team.
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Something I didn't know
His manager for his two seasons with the Miami Miracle was none other than current Marlins manager Fredi Gonzalez.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Serves him right for participating in that G2 commercial.
Sellout.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
TV crew has talked a lot about Ramirez's questionable defense
I think it’s funny they never mention his error total (one this year) while they (BA, mostly) rave about Braun being error-free.
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I didn't realize until just now that Rickie even makes any noise in that commercial
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
The one w/ the giant T.V.?
I did, and thought it was strange. Bill Hall cannot act.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
Yeah
I guess I’ve missed the very beginning all of the 100+ times I’ve seen it.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I actually don't think I've ever heard Weeks talk........ wierd.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
It's the same as Fielder--a lot of "you know"--but much, much faster
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Actually, that rings a bell.........
……. I did hear him once, I just chose to forget it.
And on another note, the gameday video isn’t working for me. Anyone else have this problem?
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
He does talk really fast though, thats all I remember.
"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"
by BrewerLover on Aug 16, 2008 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like he gets interviewed pretty regularly. He’s got an unusual accent, or so it seems to me. i wonder if its a Florida accent.
His brother Jemile sounds pretty normal
I’d guess that Rickie just has a small speech problem or public speaking problem.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
So they're not reshuffling the rotation at all?
That’s pretty stupid.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Sure there is
It’s streaming online now.
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Imagine how strong Kapler would be if he hit the ball with both hands on the bat
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
How many Mannys are there in the NL now?
A Parra/Ramirez matchup may have a lot more at stake now.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Nothing can top when Scott Servais and Scott Service matched up
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Kendall only has one homer this year
I think it’s time for another
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Or not
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
this is the wrong place but I hope you bring some luck
They’ve been hitting the ball pretty well all game though.
That requires me to be a lucky person
And, clearly, by the lack of people at my house drinking rum, I am not
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Huh
Coming into today, Lowe had the fourth-lowest xFIP in the NL (just ahead of Billingsley).
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
That one's going up on Facebook as soon as I get a chance
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Ryan who?
I thought Gabe was a goner in the stands there.
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Remember when Jay Buhner fell completely over the short RF wall in Fenway?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Yay Brauny!
Hopefully he doesn’t hurt himself again…
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Two Georgia men have reportedly found Ryan Braun in the woods...
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
That looked like a suit
The hands were too floppy
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
So THAT'S what the Georgia/Russia thing was all about
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
That was a pretty nice AB for such a long time off
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
He served my fantasy team well for several months when no closers were available
I was convinced he’d move into the rotation, especially because he can’t pitch on consecutive days out of the pen, but I guess not…
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Dodgers have a weird situation in the 'pen
I assumed they haven’t tried Kuo as a starter because they’re still limiting his pitches after all the surgeries and injuries he’s had, which would be logical; but Park’s been absolutely ridiculous this year too and did well as a starter (and as the first half of what Kuo finished) and then he got taken out of the rotation for no good reason.
YES!!!!!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Whoa
A fly ball that Brian Anderson doesn’t say is hit hard and it goes for a home run? That’s got to be a first.
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Did he say that?
I must’ve automatically tuned it out.
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JJ Rocks!
nice to see some late inning runs
Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.
Do you really want an answer?
Someone send the ‘pen a case of oil for Tin Man McClung’s joints. Perhaps he’ll pitch before September.
…ugh, Game Over Gagne…
Eric Gagne
The latest Eighth-Inning-Guy™
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braun's well enough to play in the field?
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
why is the packer game on the CW?
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Heh
Angel Berroa gets in the box score tonight for doing nothing.
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Pretty much describes his entire KC career post-2003
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
how about a badger mutal insurance run or two
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
WTF?
Why was Shouse in?
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by nuclearbrewer on Aug 16, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what i like to see as soon as I come home from work...
…turn on the Crew to see a lead off 9th inning walk
Hardy you son of a bitch
Holy god, that was poorly timed.
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Counsell for permanent SS
This is one of those times where I wish the NL had a DH. Mind you, it’s the only time.
/heat of the moment
Not nearly as bad as it could have been
Of course, it could still be…
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
This Gin and Tonic
is not kicking in fast enough
So dumb
But I could’ve told you this would happen
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Mark Sweeney's still on a major league roster?
Sheesh.
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i want to punch ned in the ovaries
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Why?
For playing the better matchup by having a lefty face Ethier (even though Shouse didn’t get his job done) or for having the infield screw up?
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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Should have walked Ramirez
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What would that have done?
Loaded the bases for Loney with no one out? You’re one hit away from losing then. You have to hope for an out at the plate or, failing that, a double play leaving the game tied with a runner on third and two out (pretty much the same situation as Torres just got out of).
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Hell, you're two flyouts to RF away from losing at that point
Doesn’t make sense to me.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Play for the win on the road, for the tie at home
Loney not near the threat of Ramirez, as proven.
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is seriously not Ned's fault
There’s been so much epic fail in this inning that nothing he could do would help.
Shoot...
….I drank that G & T too fast.
Not expecting extra innings
Wow
If you can give up eight runs in Huntsville without an error at third somewhere, you’ve done something “special.”
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Eight runs in an inning
That should say.
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With Turnbow, the 8 hits and 2 walks would have been inverted
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So...
Who for the 10th?
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
J.J. lives?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!!
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
He must work out.....
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
hehe
Rock pointing out Ethier’s lack of attack there.
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course...
Samsonite
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 17, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
9-3-6-3 out on an RBI single
Good job, JJ.
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To anyone not watching FSN, Torres is apparently injured
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Yeah
Trainers and Torres in same sentence.
It's all entertainment
by Lake County on Aug 16, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear God.
I don’t want to watch Gagne close games again. Let Torres be ok.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Riske
His first save of the year was opening day.
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Nah
They said it the last time he pitched in a game (for some unknown reason), too.
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C'mon Riske
put ’em away!
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
Cam is lucky they're slow
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Bad baserunning
Rock can’t believe it.
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Apparently, dumbass is contagious.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:03 AM CDT reply actions
Ned apparently thinks that Ethier touched/passed Kemp
Anyone see it?
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Wasn't even close.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Not until that replay
Alert move by Ethier to avoid it.
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If he falls behind, yeah.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd be OK with that
puts a force at every base
It is dangerous for an athlete to believe his own publicity, good or bad - Bob Uecker, 1982.
"This has been one of the best ballgames of the year"
Most exciting? Sure. Best? Uh, not quite.
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The last couple innings have been uuuuuuuugly.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
YES!!!!
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Wow.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:07 AM CDT reply actions
Wow
Didn’t think Riske had it in him. Apropos of nothing, has Riske always had that light glove? I thought his was darker earlier in the year.
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I don't remember seeing it before.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 17, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I just realized
I hadn’t taken a breath since the 8th inning.
(inhales)…..(exhales)…..
NICE F***ING JOB BOYS!
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