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Game Thread #113: Brewers (62-50) at Reds (51-61)

Milwaukee Brewers at Cincinnati Reds, Aug 4, 2008 6:10 PM CDT


I was at the Nats-Reds game in Washington yesterday, watching the Reds get swept.  If you think the Cubs made us look bad last week, imagine what it's like to watch a team go down in three straight to Washington.

Tonight's matchup is Bronson Arroyo and Manny Parra.  Arroyo hasn't been good this year, but he did beat the Brewers twice in the last two months of the 2007 season.  Parra has scuffled a bit lately; let's hope he's due for a good one.  I hear about the Reds offense all the time, but it sure didn't show up in DC yesterday afternoon.

Game time is 6:10 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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Reds fan here

I hope we win, but if you guys win, then I hope the Cubs lose. Cheers to sportsmanship!

vs.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Prost!

Just seeing the 1 Liter Maas (sp?) brings back fond memories.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff

How did you like the new Nats stadium? My brother-in-law just moved to DC, so we may be visiting in the near future.

by oconnobe on Aug 4, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

eh

I had heard really bad things, and that’s too extreme. It’s nice-looking, it’s new, it’s open-I think that’s the best thing, it isn’t this imposing edifice, not in any way. The weird thing is that there’s all this planned developed-condos, bars, shopping, etc, and it’s all opening next year. There’s nothing right now. Eventually the block around the ballpark might feel a bit (just a bit, since it’s artificial) like Wrigleyville or the area around Fenway …now it feels more like a giant minor league park. (Which isn’t entirely a bad thing.)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 4, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just spent the last three nights at Nationals Park

If you do go, I recommend getting a Ben’s Chili Bowl Half Smoke. One of the best things about the park is how they’ve incorporated local restaurants for ballpark food. The seating is generally pretty good, with some good views of the Anacostia River and the Capitol dome, depending on where you are. The scoreboard is nice, the President’s Race is pretty fun (although I’d imagine Brewers fans would find it pretty derivative). It reminds me a lot of Turner Field in Atlanta.

The surrounding area used to be very scary, but it’s getting more and more developed by the day. There’s still a lot of construction and not a ton to do in the immediate vicinity, but you can see where they’re going with it, and it will eventually be pretty nice. You should definitely go for a game, if you have the chance.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

Thanks for the suggestions.

by oconnobe on Aug 4, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nationals Park

The park is very open with great sightlines – I’ve been to a couple games (Brewers Memorial Day game among others) and it is a very nice place to see a game. It will be nice if the cherry trees in the outfield time their blooming for opening day in the future – that will give it a nice look.

You are right about development still being on going around the stadium, it will probably be a few years before everything fills out.

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't we play a horrible series.....

......against the Reds around this time last year? Does anyone remember/ I think there was a rain delay.

Arroyo's hair gives me a bad feeling.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t seen him pitch since…April. How long is it now?

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is more ridiculous?

Craig Counsell batting sixth, playing third, or Jolbert Cabrera batting sixth, playing right field?

Lineups.

Dude, Cabrera might be the worst hitter in either lineup, and I’m counting the pitchers.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 4, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jolbert Cabrera

What’s with all the guys who’ve been out of the majors for a couple seasons making it back onto rosters lately? Valerio de los Santos, Jolbert Cabrera, Vladimir Nunez, who else?

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Reds have Mike Lincoln, who was out of baseball for two years

And, before he went on the season-ending DL, Kent Mercker. And let’s not forget the feel good story himself, Josh Hamilton. Well, that was last year, but I’d certainly rather have Jolbert manning centerfield than the Natural.

sigh…

Miss you, Josh.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 4, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parra

It’d be nice if he could get his WHIP to something resembling a decent MLB pitcher.

by HRF on Aug 4, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Edwin E this year against the Brewers

.414 BA
.485 OBP
.931 SLG
1.416 OPS

yipes

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineup For Tonight

2B Rickie Weeks
SS J.J. Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Craig Counsell
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
LHP Manny Parra

I’m a bit disappointed to not see Billy in the lineup tonight even though he is 8 for 29 (0.276 avg) for the season against them and has pretty much owned them throughout his career. Hopefully Old Craig can do something for us tonight!

by zsattler on Aug 4, 2008 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunn's look tonight...

...is channeling Gagne.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But does he have to defogg his goggles?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo

On pace for a 180 pitch perfect game.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I noticed it was a bit low.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Average up top and tight on the right side of the plate.

So Far…..

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couple of pitches to Keppinger

looked pretty damn good to me, and got no call

by Scooter82 on Aug 4, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you ask me, its good to have a tight strike zone when the Brewers are playing someone like Arroyo. If he gets low and away stuff, he’ll beat it to death.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gameday says its Ed Montague.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HD

Cubs on ESPN in HD.

But I just wanted to say, FSN.. convert mid season instead of 09 for all HD games. We have to wait till the 16th for the next HD game. That’s unacceptable!

PS – I hate SD now that I have an HD TV.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steal for once.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For once?

Hart stole two bases yesterday.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For thrice, then.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

game set match

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howdy Friends

Long trip over with, back in the fold.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hand me one of those beers

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can have

The earthquake, 2 flight cancellations, three flight delays, one train missed, zero rental cars available due to late flight and Caribana festival, one thunderstorm flown through.

I’ll have the beer.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems the tune of the last month.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

.100 for the last month

according to the radio guys

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice AB.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Parra's avg. is .214

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than Rickie Weeks at home.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pathetic

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the proverbial high hard one – or as Bill calls it, chocolate cake

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schroeder

He’s having issues tonight. First he says Brandon Phillips is going to be a free agent after this season. Wrong. Then he says Rickie Weeks’ OBP has been in the .310’s all season. All season must now mean a few weeks.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

has anyone else become a biggebit more tolerant of tom hardicourt lately?

i feel like lately he has been a lot more honest about his stuff… and not afraid to call people out.

"I wore 37 in Tampa... my brother Marcus wore 37... my brother Sam wore 73... my nieces and nephews wear 37... It's a family thing." McClung

by Jamie in LA on Aug 4, 2008 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TRUE.

but i think he has gotten more honest as the season has gone on. i know the tone is almost snobby and angry sometimes; definitely sarcastic; but i appreciate his honesty.

in an almost unrelated note; talked to DARON SUTTON the other night by the diamondbacks bus here in LA after a game; and it was great to see him. he chatted with me for a minute and i told him that i miss him in milwaukee. he seemed to be genuinely touched and said “thank you. milwaukee has the best fans in baseball.” i told him i still have my buckethead brigade shirt.

"I wore 37 in Tampa... my brother Marcus wore 37... my brother Sam wore 73... my nieces and nephews wear 37... It's a family thing." McClung

by Jamie in LA on Aug 4, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Daron, but in small doses. I enjoyed him when he was here though.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Daron, but in small doses.

me too.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been cool with him the whole second tenure

Do you recall his first time here? Prince of Darkness, etc?

He’s not the greatest, but I think he gets a bad rap.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yikes!

i was gonna write bigger fan; then i TRIED to write more tolerant. i must be tired from running at the gym…

"I wore 37 in Tampa... my brother Marcus wore 37... my brother Sam wore 73... my nieces and nephews wear 37... It's a family thing." McClung

by Jamie in LA on Aug 4, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s funny. Maybe we should call you biggebit.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets Do It!!!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA! (lets not..)

"I wore 37 in Tampa... my brother Marcus wore 37... my brother Sam wore 73... my nieces and nephews wear 37... It's a family thing." McClung

by Jamie in LA on Aug 4, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Wow!

Bullcrap call.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind what I said earlyer about the ump.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Strike zone has been tight tonight. That one was clearly a ball. Gameday shows it in the batters box.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

I tried to rotate gameday in a fashion that would show that ball crossing the front of the plate. no dice.
bad call.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man for a very tight zone so far

that was really reaching it, ugly

by Scooter82 on Aug 4, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Counsell was fired up.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

I don’t recall Counsell kvetching very much in the past

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

SKI Interview

Fire Butch…

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is Butch?

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wynegar

Flash back to last year…must be the hitting coach talk, etc.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and by getting him some runs...

I assume you don’t mean Weeks doing his typical magic act out in the field?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parra

may have to help himself out with the bat tonight if he wants a W.

by oconnobe on Aug 4, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good old-fashioned pitcher's duel tonight.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo has thrown 75 pitches to Manny's 54.

Lets get Arroyo on out of there.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's got to pee

...and he doesn’t want to wait for us to foul off 10 pitches of arroyo’s each batter to extend the game.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww damn it

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there goes the no hitter

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The 3-0 pitch was a strike.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh MY GOD!!!!

I’m gonna kick this guy in the neck.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me?

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gezzz..

What the heck happened here Manny..

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Had to go to the stretch

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugly

With the Brewers offense like it has been recently.. that might be game.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If they can’t hit a home run off Arroyo, Mr Home Run himself, they’re not even trying.

I don’t think they’re trying.

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

frackity frack frack

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh crap

i look away 5-10 minutes….
maybe ned is doing the same, because why else is Parra still in there?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When would they have pulled him?

After the first hit of the game? After the first walk? After the second walk, the pitcher was up. You can say they should’ve pulled him after Arroyo got a hit, but that means they would have needed to fire up the bullpen almost right after the first walk of the inning (third baserunner allowed by Parra all game). After he got Keppinger out, he was facing another lefty, so it’d be strange to bring in a righty from the bullpen.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's not like he was throwing a no-hitter or somethin'

It was just a run of opportune plate appearances for the Reds. Sometimes they come all in a row.

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parra was just one pitch away from getting out of the inning

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Single and walk in a row

when Parra has pitched 4+ innings (or 3 2/3+) innings, he’s nearing the end of his safe zone.

I would think it best to have someone in the pen after 2 runners on. A walk and a double later, he gets pulled.

Given when ned DID go out there, I probably would have pulled him before the one that was the last batter of the inning. So, in other words, if I took over management duties after ol’ Neddie came out the first time, the inning may still be going on. So, I suck:P

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay, CV up again

when the game is basically all but over. Way to utilize that Mota like talent.

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reds can't hit with RISP

That was the conclusion of the Red’s media guy that Sparky interviewed.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HEY EVERYBODY!!!!! THE BREWERS CANT HIT WITH RISP!!!!!!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the spot…

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is...

Like deja vu all over again. Tied for the wild card, let’s watch it unravel in Cincy.

by Rawiswar on Aug 4, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Up a game though..

Well for at least another 30 minutes

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob is depressed

Cheer him up, Corey.

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bob is depressed

Cheer him up, Corey.

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey did his job

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

That’ll happen when you get shut out on Sunday.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You all right?

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RISP

Not a RISP fail!

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Aug 4, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With Counsell up...

The only way I would have less confidence is if I was batting.

by Rawiswar on Aug 4, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or Sheets

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr Anti-Clutch?

Should have pinch-hit Hall? ;)

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't he

still batting 1.000 in bases-loaded situations this season?

but the bases weren’t loaded (sample sizes be damned), so I would think it’d be Branyan, Hall or Durham time.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just need a hypnotist to make him think its a World Series game

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you noticed Hardy and

Weeks’ performance at the plate lately?

You want contact hitters in the one and two holes.

Weeks and Hardy have been pathetic for two weeks.

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, look who's back.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

God?

the one who according to flag over there hates us?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, although he does. Didn't you see the poll?

Manny’s back.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...

playing for the sox again?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pitcher.

AAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD…...........He’s STILL in. WTF

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is only one Manny.

He’s on the mound for the Brewers and walking people.

You mean there’s another one? O noz…

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny Corpas, silly

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Aug 4, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That one!

The guy who walks people for the Rockies! I forgot about him.

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys,

I’m not watching any more games this season….. or listening to the radio. Ever sense I got back from my trip, every game I have paid attention to the Brewers have lost.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you have failed

Because the team sucks lately.

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know then they’ll start winning. What will you do then?

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'll read the newspaper and celebrate privately

promise me that you will not watch any of the games live, including the world series
tape or tivo it.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

corn lickers

Times are rough on 620

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so...

anyone up in the pen or still warm from last inning?

or because Parra was one pitch away from ending this inning…

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm. CC comes over and our offense shuts down

the curse of the big man! That’s why the indians sucked this year…

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh goody

we love solo home runs

only five more solos with get us home – maybe

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey! Branyan!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what's up with that

Who was Prince ticked at?

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed it. Recap?

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah what happened..

Hear dosmehting about Prince pushing Para back on the bench.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Parra did look like he was about to cry.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Branyan?

because we just need 1 more run with a 5% probability, rather than kapler and have like a 15% probability of at least 1 run.

*all numbers made up

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except when he does that.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any shots on TV

Of prince being held back by for team mates?

by Flag Up on Aug 4, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Reds' FSN had it

Prince shoved Parra twice, once in the face after they were arguing

by jllyons on Aug 4, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

f*ck that

hit two homers in 2ABs, then you’ve earned the right to be pissy at the pitcher.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woah!

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Saw it on the MLB.tv feed

The Reds broadcast had it live—Parra and Fielder walking down the dugout side by side, obviously disgruntled with each other. Parra said something, whipped his jacket (I think?) in Prince’s direction, Prince flipped out and shoved him right onto the bench hard, then a bunch of dudes stepped in between to break it up.

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny probably swiped his tofu slim jim

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha-Ha...

Comic relief…..........Much needed.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look like he threw his jacket on the bench imo.

Neds LOST control.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny got shoved hard into the bench and then in the face by Prince Fielder.

Manny Parra is gonna have a brused back.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

Maybe Parra thought Fielder should’ve got the ground ball that scored Ross and Arroyo in the 5th?

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

That’s what the Reds TV guys were speculating, too.

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielder probably started it.

He finished it, too.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but he doesn’t know how to make his socks high and well pleated

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're only a grand salami away from tying it

maybe parra mentioned that and fielder got hungry?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parra stepped on Fielder's cheeseburger.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing the whole team

allowed Villnueva a chance to pitch in a meaningless game.

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best guy we could possibly face.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fielder should beat the crap

out of Weeks and Yost.

I think this team is all scared shitless of Fielder.

The man’s got issues, I guess.

Not to mention he can’t play his position worth squat. Look at that replay of Gallardo getting hurt.

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m surprised it was Parra who said something, if it was related to fielding issues. I’ve have thought it would have been McClung who started something first, but apparently he’s limited himself to dirty looks in public.

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for striking out at a fellow teammate

I hope they fine him, and I wouldn’t mind if they sent him to the minors for a week

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielder always needs a chip on his shoulder

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If so, he should

sit in the opponent’s dugout.

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

chipped beef?

chocolate chips work too, but not in the singular sense.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there was chocolate on his shoulder.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell

I’d eat his shoulder if it tasted of choclaty goodness

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps Prince needs to push more people around if it means Braun hitting a home run

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward, all in the valley of death rode the Brewer's bullpen.

by nuclearbrewer on Aug 4, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you like to volunteer

to be his punching bag? (You’d get to travel with the team….)

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd knock Fielder's socks off.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's easy

he doesn’t put them on securely – can’t bend his knees to reach his toes afterall. Just tries to worm his foot into the sock each morning.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesnt put em on like Manny Parra.

Those would take some prying.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielder takes his anger

back to the bench. Look out guys, he’s coming back…..

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

time for a team field trip to a shooting range

Some big caliber weapons and some humorous targets.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good idea.

Who would get shot first?

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe paintball instead

They can direct their anger and frustrations in a non-lethal manner.

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a Johnny Estrada pinata?

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome.

I’d have to join in.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm feeling some LOB here

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 4, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He had a pitch there

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

take your feelings

down to the ghetto and find a nice street corner

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Cameron, this is what you are paid for.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Swing outside the strike zone!

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hart is supposed to be a speed demon

silly guy should have scored from 1st;)

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably would've if it was hit to left

With Dunn rumbling around out there.

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he’s your type then?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 50s lookin mustache is what does it

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little short for me.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every single one of they.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i heard it can be itchy

when it grows back in down there

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said heads but, whatever.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your point?

tee hee…i said point

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ho-Ho.....

About McClung…. do leprachauns have pubes?

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villa is the highlight of the game.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Coco time I would think

Don’t anybody swing and see if he walks the game away

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hah

You just told the Brewers not to swing at stuff. ;)

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

They ignore me

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just hasn't been brainwashed

the true way of the Brewers yet.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 4, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah! Lets get him again this season.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was only a stopgap catcher until Soto caught on. I don’t remember if he was traded to the Cubs before or after Zambrano and Barrett had their little dustup and Barrett was sent away.

by morineko on Aug 4, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After

They sent Barrett to San Diego for Rob Bowen and someone. Bowen and Koyie Hill didn’t hit (surprise) for a month, so they traded for Kendall.

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about

he not try for the homer though and settle for a walk or a double.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitless in last 26?

My oh my what’s up with that?

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rickie got a hit

All it took was almost hitting his competition at second base with the ball.

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that is the key to Weeks getting hits

Me thinks Durham should sit out in the Bullpen next game, maybe Weeks will hit it there.

"He's been very, very impressive," Yost said. "I mean really impressive. I mean really, really impressive."

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 4, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blew.............It

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hardy better

shower quickly and disappear into the night….

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they all should shower and disappear

don’t forget to put your duds on, guys

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a strike.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for specifying.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 4, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is where

Braun’s hacking at everything comes in useful…with the ump this inconsistant.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it me, or can you put Villy in aviator sunglasses and a Members’ Only jacket and he could be a weekly villain on Miami Vice?

by Getting Yosted on Aug 4, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Makes me think of the Jimmy Buffet song, Pencil Thin Mustache

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then Prince goes right to Rickie

Don’t need to be Freud to figure this one out.

Again is good

by Lake County on Aug 4, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

yelling at the son for sucking so much?

that’s my only experience with a pro coach as father…

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now the real fun

begins. The post mortem on the dustup.

That’s what makes baseball America’s Pastime.

by heybatterbatter on Aug 4, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Spazzosaurus!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trying not to read too much into this.

I’ve suspected for a while now that the dedication to Weeks might have as much to do with Fielder’s friendship (and personal volatility) as it does with any real hope that Weeks himself will fulfill his perceived promise. The fight, and the aftermath in which Fielder sought out Weeks, adds to that suspicion. Then again, this is the second year in a row that a move was made in the 2nd half that diminished Weeks’ role, if only temporarily. So I’m probably just impatient and overly cynical.

FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 4, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cynical

That’s my job!

But, if your theory is correct, I’d think that he’d get fewer starts. I can’t really support my guess, but I thought it was just Yost being dedicated to him.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

You mean Weeks gets playing time because Yost is afraid of Fielderr??? Seems like kind of a ridiculous theory if you ask me.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Aug 4, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Afraid is a strong word...

... and not one I used. But there’s a certain logic in a desire to keep your tempermental HR champion happy, and if that means having a little more patience with a struggling 2nd basemen you think might still develop, so be it. Am I wrong? Probably. Ridiculous? Not really. It’s certainly happened in professional sports before (see Winters, Frank, former Packer center, or Pederson, Doug, long time backup Packer QB despite a near total lack of ability to play at the professional level).

FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 4, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

More probable

The fact that Durham and Counsell are worse than Weeks.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Aug 4, 2008 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about worse. If he was, there was no point in signing him.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worse how?

I might give you Durham defensively, but aside from power there is nothing that Weeks offers that Counsell hasn’t done better all year. Given the power in the rest of the lineup, I don’t think you can justify forgoing Counsell’s superior defense with Weeks’ 9HRs. Does that mean Counsell should be playing regularly in Weeks’s place? That depends on whether the guy calling the shots has real hope for Weeks finally developing into the player he was supposed to be. If the guy calling the shots thinks there is still hope of development and thinks the playoff chase doesn’t justify playing the older, more consistent player, then so be it. If it’s a close call, is it so hard to believe that a guy like Yost would let personality politics influence him? I don’t see how you can say that.

Again, that doesn’t mean I’m right. I don’t know if I am or not. I just threw it out there because it was something I had thought about on a few occasions.

FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 4, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mix in performance in critical situations and Durham’s defense is at least debatably equal or better.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Video of the fight...

Here

I had to splice two parts together, so you’ll see it stutter for a second and repeat. OOps.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 4, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool

Thanks for putting that together!

by zsattler on Aug 5, 2008 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yost in the post game

Said something like “its rude to go knock on your neighbor’s door if you hear them arguing and this is like that.”

Its rude to ask about players fighting – sure Ned.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a weird, terrible analogy.

Weird because all he had to say was “it’s an internal thing”, terrible because if you hear (not to mention see) your neighbors hitting each other, the matter escalates to the public realm.

In short, I don’t like Ned.

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

... he did say arguing, instead of neighbors hitting each other. That’s intellectually dishonest since Fielder and Parra didn’t just have a verbal disagreement, but intellectual dishonesty is almost an art form with Ned in post game interviews and thus not all that surprising here. We should probably be grateful he didn’t just say “What fight? I didn’t see any fight. Never happened.” And then after they showed him the video “That’s clearly been doctored.”

As an aside, I like Fielder a lot better when he looks like he’s going to tear Tony Larussa’s face off instead of Manny Parra’s.

FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 4, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardricourt was just on SportsCenter via phone

Said that the hearsay was Parra was heading up the tunnel to the clubhouse after getting pulled, Fielder didn’t like that he gave up 6 runs and wasn’t sticking around to watch.

by andrew_p on Aug 4, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dubious

That doesn’t sound believable at all, more likely Parra said something.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Aug 4, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it jibes with the mlb.com site report

more or less

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the news

The whole “neighbors arguing” analogy - the impression I got was that it’s rude to ask why they were fighting. Essentially that the fight was none of our business.

His contempt for the Brewer consumer is downright Haudricourtian.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Low blow.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how

reporters keep their cool when interviewing him and asking him questions in the post-game. After the “none of your business”-type response, I would have loved to see a reporter ask him if he’s lost control of his team.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Low blow for dissing Haudricourt. He’s the one who will keep after Yost. When he does, you sometimes here McCalvy stick with him.

by ol Pete on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like I missed quite a show

Why did I choose to go see ‘Dark Knight’ again tonight?

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 4, 2008 11:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because

it’s only like one of the most awesome movies of all time.

:)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 4, 2008 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So true

My parents hadn’t seen it yet, so I got to go for free this time, which makes it even better.

I think it’s my favorite movie now :)

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 5, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read somewhere

that Heath Ledger might win a Best Supporting Oscar for his role. Normally, I’d assume it was sensationalized because he died, but he was phenomenal.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 5, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I've ever rooted so much for a bad guy

Or wished that TheJay would let me give him a makeover :}

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 5, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know what that means

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 5, 2008 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, at least that prevents us from free falling.

Come on guys, lets get our head together. We are a better team then this right?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 5, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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