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Game Thread #115: Brewers (63-51) at Reds (52-62)

Milwaukee Brewers at Cincinnati Reds, Aug 6, 2008 11:35 AM CDT


For all the hoopla over Homer Bailey in the years since the Reds took him in the first round, he hasn't been worth much more to Cinci this year than Mark Rogers has been to the Brewers.  Kind of odd that, despite all that hype, Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez (who, to be fair, wasn't in the org until this season) have completely overtaken him.

So yeah, Bailey is 0-5 with a 7.55 ERA this year.  He was solid in Triple-A, but has walked guys like crazy everywhere he's been.  Going for us this afternoon is Jeff Suppan, who has also been walking more batters than usual, but at least has an ERA under 5, and is coming off his second best start of the year.

Game time is 11:35 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.

Go Brewers!

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This is one of those match ups that makes me inexplicably nervous.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

yes, quite inexplicable

0-5, 7+ ERA opposing pitcher

he will own us:P

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Castro is already doing his part for the Brewers in 2009

From McCalvy’s game preview:

“Brewers bullpen coach Bill Castro, who will serve as the pitching coach for the Dominican Republic in next year’s World Baseball Classic, spent time Tuesday lobbying Reds closer Francisco Cordero to pitch in the tournament. Young Reds hurlers Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez also have tentatively agreed to pitch.”

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by TheJay on Aug 6, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

A win would make this a nice roadtrip

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Aug 6, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

And Powell just said that Jeffress got promoted to Huntsville

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Aug 6, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

cool!

if he’s successful, that put his on track to possibility help the big club by the second half ‘09.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 6, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

A thought

I wonder if the Moustache has checked with Thompson about a trade for Favre in exchange for Mota. Would seem to solve both teams problems and heck, Favre might have a nice fastball!!!

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Expect a trade today or tomorrow.

Why aren’t the Dolphins asking about him?

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 6, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Marino won’t let them.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Counsell starting two days in a row?

He ate a doughnut yesterday.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 6, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Hardy had a decent day yesterday so Yost wants to rest him the day before a day off.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey a productive out.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 6, 2008 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

He put the ball in play 4 times.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 6, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Can't argue with that.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 6, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or his defense.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 6, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

How are Corey Hart’s defensive stats?

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 6, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

typically: decent
lately: suck

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice play by Rickie

Usually that sort of ball toward him would’ve scored the guy from second.

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by TheJay on Aug 6, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Whatever.......

.....if we can’t score one run against this guy we have more to worry about then a loss.

"Get up, get up, get outta' here, GONE!!!"

by BrewerLover on Aug 6, 2008 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Who needs RISP?

Double ‘em in from first.

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by TheJay on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, nice hit DICK

Weeks with an RBI Single

Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle

by reverse24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Weeks’ fielding % is going through the roof

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

A TheJay question

What is the record for consecutive outs/assists by a fielder to start a game.

by Getting Yosted on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure

A couple catchers have had nine putouts to start a game due to strikeouts and pop-ups.

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by TheJay on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two more years of Suppan....

His no trade clause runs out after this year though!

by NoahJ on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Bruce/ Votto comparison was the stupidest thing I've ever seen

The only thing their swings have in common are that they are both lefties. Bruce has a high leg kick, while Votto swing is much longer.

by brewfan2 on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Wonder if Prince

is making sure Suppan is watching between innings because he and the boys have to watch Suppan’s crap

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

displaced aggression

since Fielder picked on Manny, now it’s manny’s turn to pick on someone else further down the pecking order. So, I guess that’s Manny’s job now.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

How long before

Mota gets shoved then?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billy Hall showing off his

Double B’s

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe Prince

can get him a deal on manssieres.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

How'd Billy

get doubled up there? I have gameday going

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

didn’t get back to first in time after the ball was caught

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

it wasn’t like a diving catch, just a lazy fly ball? WTF?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

deep in the corner caught on the fly and a strong throw to first

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

was he standing on second?

was it a shallow fly?

you sir, just stated the obvious
“didn’t get back to first in time after the ball was caught”

I think we figured that out from “Bill Hall doubled off 1st”

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a future

in play by play broadcasting…

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

HEY!

“he was one step from being safe” Yost replied.

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

"can't let that happen"

not the first time that’s been said about Billy’s baserunning

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

He is one of the worst base runners I’ve ever seen

by Supertramp on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of competition for the title of worst, but he’s had some ugly mistakes.

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a tight competition for the batting clown

Cameron-.231
Weeks-.230
Hall-.229

But Kendall is still lapping the field with an eye adjusted .243 BA.

by Getting Yosted on Aug 6, 2008 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Sure am glad

we got Counsell’s bat in there today in place of JJ. No need to let JJ continue to work out of his funk after a better day yesterday. Ned is a genius, we are so lucky to have him on our side along with math.

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh no, it's like a nightmare

“He barely gets it up…” :(

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

nightmare scenario

it becomes referred to as a “Bailey”

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

when they get back to milwaukee...

...i’m sure that won’t be a problem.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

My terrible sunburn is peeling… making me unappealing

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suppan hates

to pitch with a lead

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

it's dueling suck

(insert dueling banjos music in background)

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trenni

looking kinda frumpy today

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

cat fight cat fight!!

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suits just look better on her is all

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff says

you look mighty fine in a suit!

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

But what Jeff didn't tell you

Is he meant a birthday one.

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by TheJay on Aug 6, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh snap

Are you guys sharing photos again?

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

If by "sharing"

you meant posting on the web… well yes.

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

You could’ve just searched, I know there are some out there

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Jeff

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

She doesn’t want Lou Pinella to complain about how she’s dressed.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF?

Sheets is wearing a turban?

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

That's awesome

I expect to see 1000 of those at the games this weekend

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

SQUEEZE

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

GRITTTTTTTTT

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Weird

What happen to Dusty letting pitchers throw a million pitches before he pulls them? Has Dusty learned a new trick?

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

couldn't we have just used

a cowboy boot up the ass and saved the $$$

The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!

by 80badger on Aug 6, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Late to the party today

Sorry, I got hung up … so, yeah, Weeks sucks! Fire Yost! The team is collapsing after the dugout fracas! What? Oops, thought I was on commenting on the Brewers blog at JSOnline.

4-for-4 Rickie is fun, except when he hits it so hard Kendall can’t score from second with 2 outs.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hung up?

That sounds either very uncomfortable or extremely fun

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too obscene

I wanted to borrow from the old Dave Chapelle line: “Sorry, I’m late kids. Santa got hung up with some pussy in Vegas.” Thought that might be of questionable taste for the board, but it’s too late for that now, isn’t it?

Anyway, uh, I wasn’t in Vegas this morning, and I’ll leave it at that. Much less interesting start to the day than is worth sharing.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Questionable taste?

I’m allowed on here, so there’s no such thing

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Life in the Queen City

I don’t get how people live there. Every shot of a game in Cincinnati – especially day games – always looks like the people there are sweating and suffering more than if they were hanging out south of hell in August.

Is the chili really that spectacular?

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s unique – served over spaghetti.

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that looks pretty good

Good go for some of that. Also, that has to be the most shallow bowl chili has ever been served in. OK, maybe it is worth it for the chili.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s served on plates. Comes as 3 alarm or 4 alarm et cetera. I forget what they mean exactly but its a reference to addition of items. One of them is raw onions and I’m always for raw onions.

Cincinnati is a nice place. It has some extreme politics that were surprising to me. Sort of Midwestern flavor mixed with the South.

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, more positives

I stand corrected. I would put raw onions on Cap’n Crunch. Can’t get enough of that stuff.

Not sure about the extreme politics.

Hey, Cameron!

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

The chili is much thicker than typical chili as the meat is finely ground

And it comes in a 3-way : Spaghetti, Chili, Cheese
4-way: A 3-way with either beans or onions
5-way: everything.

Or you can get a Coney which is a hot dog with chili and cheese (onions and mustard optional).

And the humidity can be a bitch in Cincinnati, but I once spent a summer in Atlanta and I’ll take Cincinnati’s summer every time over that steam bath.

Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.

by Slyde on Aug 6, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hot-'lanta

I’ve been in Atlanta twice, both times in late August. That was pretty rough. I remember asking a local how they handle 96 degrees with humidity all the time, and his response, “This is actually one of the cooler days!”

Man, that chili sounds delicious. Might have to make a Brewers road trip next year and get some of that.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

pop over and see us at Red Reporter if you do

we’ll get you set up for the Cincinnati experience, which basically is having some chili and spending your time in northern Kentucky.

Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.

by Slyde on Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reds fans seem nice. :)

by NoahJ on Aug 6, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else hear the Jaws theme song during that play?

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Crapping his pants

Catcher did a good job of rolling off Prince’s shoulder on that play. Looks also like Prince kind of held up because he thought he might kill the guy.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Dang

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice play by outfield?

Or should Prince have held up?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

The ball was almost hit to the warning track

Big boy’s just a little too slow

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think possible insurance runs

are more important than having soup out there in the eighth/resting the bullpen, especially with the off day tomorrow.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s just trying to get Tom Haudricourt to stop calling for his head.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a way to do that?

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

no...no...

Tom H. is too much of a stalker for you to call him off from you that easily kirbir.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damnit

And I was so looking forward to changing in front of my window in privacy

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

really...

go ahead with that if you want. I really DON’T have a photographer across the street in that unmarked van.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was wondering why someone is out in the corn all the time

I thought it was just the harvest peoples

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So close ...

... oh well.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berkman RBI

1-1, top 3 at Wrigley

Just can’t stop looking over at the Cubs.

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

3-run HR Lee

4-1, ‘Stros, Top 3

See what I mean?

Use the brown eye, ump!

by Bay View Brewer on Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

oh boy

Shouse walks a man in front of Big Country

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Yost

Gonna pull Shouse

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Brian just said that Edwin E has homered twice this season off Gagne… gulp.

by ol Pete on Aug 6, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the old Gagne, before the long vacation via “injury” and injections of Hydrogenated Gummy Hydrox cookies

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

In retrospect

putting Gagne in there was a good idea

but I guess it was more that leaving Shouse in would have been an incredibly bad idea.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 6, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice day for Rickie

"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker

by kirbir on Aug 6, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

IIRC

This means the Brewers have went at least .500 on each of their road trips since the beginning of June.

Coffee is for closers

by drezdn on Aug 6, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost a record

The 11 assists by Rickie Weeks was one away from the ML record of 12 in a nine inning game.

by statsllc on Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

IIRC

Juan Samuel shares that record. He would have broken it, except he booted what would have been the record breaker and didn’t get another chance.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 6, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

He is de fastest!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 7, 2008 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

4-2 this month...

... meaning the Brewers need to go 13-8 the rest of the month to hit the 17 win plateau and put themselves in a position to hit 90 wins by playing just over .500 ball (13-12) in September.

FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 6, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

not that it matters much

but 26 games in september, not 25. given the schedule, i’ll take 13-13 out of that month…though i’d be much happier with 13-13 if we win those 17+ games you mention in august.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 6, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

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