Game Thread #117: Nats (44-72) at Brewers (65-51)
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 4:09 PM CDT
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PrintWashington Nationals at Milwaukee Brewers, Aug 9, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
Ever since Jim Bowden started experimenting to see whether he could put together a decent starting rotation for the less than the money he has inexplicably given Dmitri Young, I've been fascinated with the strategy and the results. Collin Balester is a guy who probably wouldn't make more than one or two starts on most teams; Garrett Mock (Monday's starter) is another. But on the Nats, they end up in the rotation for half the year.
But...I don't know, in year two of the Tim Redding era, I'm losing interest. At some point, it's just stupid. Or maybe it's just Jim Bowden that's stupid.
Anyway, Redding is starting for the Nats, and Ben Sheets will pitch for us and try to out-snazz his buddy CC.
Game time is 6:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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yesterday's retro unis
I find the fluorescent blue a bit jarring, but I do like the pinstripes. Looking around a couple Nats sites there were various positive comments about them. Here’s the most enthusiastic from Nats320:
Why in the world do The Milwaukee Brewers NOT WEAR THOSE GORGEOUS Retro Pinstripe Power Blue Uniforms at each and every home game? The Blue with Gold Trim is CLASSIC. The Glove “MB” Logo” on the cap maybe the most ingenious of my lifetime.
i am fond of the caps as well
and have used similar terminology
not so sure about the pinstripes, etc, but the hats kick all ass.
As stated before I wish they would stop living in the past
Plus they usually lose in those stupid Friday Retro Uniforms
If Loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right
Russell apologized to Ned for whatever it was he did wrong
And an amusing Witrado quote on tonight’s lineup
Jason Kendall, of course, is in the lineup and he’s 7 for 16 against Redding, in case anyone was wondering.
2B Ray Durham
SS JJ Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Russell Branyan
CF Mike Cameron
C Jason Kendall
P Ben Sheets
Doesn’t that lineup look a whole lot prettier with some Muscle in it?
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
I just don't understand it. Counsell got on base via a strikeout yesterday.
by dixieflatline on Aug 9, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That may be the grittiest, most intangibiblistic way to get on base there is
(and Mozilla actually thinks that is a word!)
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
A close second has to be sticking your shoulder or elbow out over the plate for an HBP.
I loved Fernando Vina.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
dude.
If somebody could get on base because Willa Cather got in the way, he would be grittier than Counsell and Kendall combined.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
death comes for the archbishop umpire
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Trying to come up with an Oh Pioneers joke here, but I’ve got nothing. Maybe someone else read My Antonia?
Coffee is for closers
Read it AND
saw the made-for-TV movie with Doogie Howser!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
That book was awesome
and all I could think of when I moved to WI from my lovely Northwest/West Coast lifestyle
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Big Z
got rocked today. 4 and a third, 9 earned and 4 HR. I am guessing the wind was blowing out at Wrigley today.
It was an ugly outing...
... hopefully it got into his head and he goes into one of those six week funks.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Trenni, Bill, Brian all beat the company line to death
Go to the Brewers site and Yost greets you.
All is well comrades. Fearless leader’s plan is going well.
Would you believe?
Going into tonight’s game the league is hitting .250 against Ben Sheets and .238 against Dave Bush.
Good thing BK isn’t around to picture post to that comment.
by ol Pete on Aug 9, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually...wouldn't have been a half bad idea if I do say so myself
Sheets can start tomorrow then, giving McClung or Villy a “start” today.
They aren't still on the roster are they?
by dixieflatline on Aug 9, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah!
Hardly. I stood in Braun’s line only – for two hours today – and right before we could get anything signed, he leaves!
I think it was the supermodel from yesterday…
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I blame you
Although Jeff hasn’t called me back in a few days… And TheJay was wandering around while I stood in line…
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
No, but that's not a bad idea
:)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
You know Yost briefly wondered to himself whether or not Craig could play Left.
Coffee is for closers
fortunately
Ned does not work for the Mets.
Seriously, if Counsell played for NY, he would’ve seen plenty of time in LF already. He might be the starter.
You may also fondly recall Graffy’s 3 games in left last year.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He clearly isn't latino enough to handle left for the Mets.
by dixieflatline on Aug 9, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I take your point...
but what about this man?
and, fun fact: 12 guys have played LF for the Mets this year. Imagine how much space there’d be between the Mets and the rest of the pack if Minaya traded in those 12 guys (most of whom are second basemen, anyway) for Barry Bonds.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I am still pissed about that Clark contract
I know it didn’t hurt that much but still…
And the Mets really could use Bonds. So could the Twins.
by dixieflatline on Aug 9, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmm...
ham…
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions
Ray Durham still plays for the Brewers?
wtf….for a couple of weeks I’ve been figuring it was just a sham, seeing as all the time Weeks and Counsell have been getting.
I chose a good moment to tune in on
It’s nice to be watching live baseball again.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Back to Back
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
BTW FSN talking about that 2005 draft
I really wanted Maybin and they drafted Braun. I got over that quickly.
funny
I was just randomly browsing MLS pages and hit on Maybin. I think Maybin could end up like Delmon Young, though better - a really great player, but not as valuable to the team that drafted him as the collegiates. Nate Silver had a good article using Delmon vs. Pedroia as an example of that - most people agreed (I don’t know if they still do) that Delmon would have the better career, but it’s obvious at this point that the first six years (esp. the super-cheap first three) go to Pedroia.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 9, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I still don't know much about the players drafted but I heard bad things about Braun
and good things about Maybin so I was kind of concerned. Again, that didn’t last long.
by dixieflatline on Aug 9, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember the famous hitch in Braun's swing?
That was before I knew a whole lot about draft prospects, but I had known about Maybin for years and was really excited to draft him. I’ve always secretly wished failure on him since.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Sucks for my Fantasy team possibly
HOUSTON OUTFIELDER CARLOS LEE LEFT THE GAME IN THE THIRD INNING AFTER BEING HIT BY A PITCH ON HIS LEFT HAND.
I wonder
if Seth McClung and Carlos V are even required to come to the park 2/5 of the time
and on cue
They show the bullpen kicked back. There’s Castro in the middle. I can’t imagine how many tales he has listened to in his time.
I bet
the relievers are really, really good at 20 questions
"I spy...something white."
“The stadium lights?”
“Nope.”
“The foul line?”
“Nope.”
“A baseball?”
“Nope.”
“Craig Counsell?”
“Bingo.”
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by TheJay on Aug 9, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Good news from Huntsville
Mat Gamel homered, which seems like the first positive thing he’s done in about two weeks.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Bill says that having the fewest innings out of your bullpen and most out of your rotation is a good combination
Wonder if they’re related at all?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Corey Hart is like a guy with a huge wallet almost falling out of his pocket during Mardi Gras...
Robbed again
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Willie Harris
Why does he wear a helmet with two earflaps? I thought only switch-hitters did that.
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That...
is what an ace does
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
Wow
That was amazingly awesome
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Sheets
Now two hits away from tying the record for most career hits by a Brewers pitcher (Chris Capuano, 35).
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Hard to believe...
... even with our short time in the NL.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Did anyone else find themselves torn as the Cards pounded the Cubs this afternoon?
Normally I’m always up for watching Zambrano get pounded, but I can’t help but think that putting another game between the Brewers and the Cards is better than cutting a game out of the Cubs lead at this point.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
i dunno
i’m rooting for them to split
with cubs taking 2 of 3 (if it’s a 3 gamer)
I’d like to have a prayer of the #1 seed in the NL tourney
That...
was a strike? In which universe?
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
The one where Laz Diaz's dinner reservations are at 9
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by TheJay on Aug 9, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Consecutive complete game shutouts
First time that’s happened in the majors since Brad Radke, Johan Santana, and Kyle Lohse of the Twins blanked the Royals in three straight games from July 5-7, 2004. The last time the Brewers had two consecutive shutouts was way back in 1992, when Cal Eldred and Chris Bosio silenced the Angels on September 23 & 24.
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by TheJay on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That
was freaking nails…nice work Benny
"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.
by ZTK Always on Vacation on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
Ballgame.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2008 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
Quick trivia question
What’s the minimum number of pitches a pitcher needs to strike out the side in every inning and pitch a complete regulation game? And no, the answer is not 81.
73?
On the road, 24 3-pitch K’s and an error on a ball in play allowing the batter to score the only run in the game (making the bottom of the 9th unnecessary)?
Or zero, if every batter refuses to step in the batter’s box three separate times (drawing three automatic strikes) during every at-bat.
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yep...73
a homer does it too;)
and no…i hadn’t considered auto strikes:P
and no…sadly haven’t seen the movie;)
Yeah, a home run works
But a defensive miscue just seems like a more fitting way to ruin such a dominant outing.
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Well, technically it's 72 when not considering automatic strikes
One of the strikeouts could come all the way around to score on a dropped third strike and a bunch of throwing errors.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
I fear that this will happen in an Arizona League game.
Carlos George will inevitably be involved.
And neck size to baby eating ratio.
nope
I briefly considered that, but then realized that if he scored, he can’t be out…so they’d have to pitch to another batter. So, that inning would involve 4Ks (or 3Ks, plus some stuff after the 3rd K)
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 10, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're right
But the answer still isn’t 73, it’s 37. Umpires call the game after 4.5 innings.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
you still lose
“a complete regulation game” was in the question
you should just concede defeat to TheJay. Who are you, Hillary Clinton?
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, you lose
“Regulation game” just means that it’s an official game. Look it up.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Here you go
(a) A regulation game consists of nine innings, unless extended because of a tie score, or shortened (1) because the home team needs none of its half of the ninth inning or only a fraction of it, or (2) because the umpire calls the game. EXCEPTION: National Association leagues may adopt a rule providing that one or both games of a doubleheader shall be seven innings in length. In such games, any of these rules applying to the ninth inning shall apply to the seventh inning.
(b) If the score is tied after nine completed innings play shall continue until (1) the visiting team has scored more total runs than the home team at the end of a completed inning, or (2) the home team scores the winning run in an uncompleted inning.
(c) If a game is called, it is a regulation game:
(1) If five innings have been completed;
(2) If the home team has scored more runs in four or four and a fraction half-innings than the visiting team has scored in five completed half-innings;
(3) If the home team scores one or more runs in its half of the fifth inning to tie the score.
(d) If a regulation game is called with the score tied, it shall become a suspended game. See Rule 4.12.
(e) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, the umpire shall declare it “No Game.”
(f) Rain checks will not be honored for any regulation or suspended game which has progressed to or beyond a point of play described in 4.10©
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
um
um…
complete!
okay…fine, I lose. my intent was to eliminate the <9inn game though when I asked the question:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 11, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you looking for 72?
I suppose the theoretical minimum is zero, if the umpire kept calling automatic strikes on batters for failing to enter the box on time.
Remember this movie?
Why was he facing Ozzie Smith as the last batter of the game? Why would such an apparently-feared hitter be batting ninth? And why did the filmmakers think Ozzie Smith was such a feared hitter?
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
"Go Crazy, Folks! Go Crazy!!"
I think it was Vin Scully who told me later he’d just said (on television) that Ozzie had never hit a home run lefthanded in one-thousand some atbats. ... And the next pitch he got it.”
link. If I remember correctly, the scoreboard also popped up Ozzie’s lack of left-handed home runs before the dramatic game-winning blast.
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Is that Brendan Frasier?
Dear g-d, someone please tell me why he was in a baseball movie?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
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