Game Thread #139: Mets (78-61) at Brewers (80-58)
by Jeff Sackmann on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 AM CDT
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I think fans of the Mets and Brewers feel somewhat the same way about today's pitchers, Dave Bush and Oliver Perez. Both are solid, but are they really this good? Perez has been excellent (if a little erratic) since becoming a Met, and while Bush seems more predictable, he just keeps improving his season numbers.
Game time is 1:05 CT, and here's the BR Game Preview.
Go Brewers!
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I know its not a must win
but dammit, I feel like it is.
Lordz Of Vengeance....If I'm not drunk, I'm at work.
I am anti-Suppan and pro-Durham.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Sep 3, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
Let's get a W!
Anybody else notice how pathetically easy the Phillies & Mets schedules are from here on out? The Phillies host us for a 4-game series, and play the Mets 3 times, but other than that, they’ve got Atlanta x6, Washington x4, and a fading Florida x6. The Mets finish with us today, then have the 3 games with the Phillies, Atlanta x6, Washington x6, Florida x3, and one potentially tough 4-game series with the Cubs.
I’m not worried about St Louis, but I’d really like to see us put some distance between us and the NL East runner-up, whoever that winds up being….
washington’s taking at least one bite out of the phils every time they meet….the Nats are in position to be a spoiler, hope they take advantage
Must be Chicago
Extra baseballs, extra votes from people long since dead…must everything in Chicago be rigged?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I hear balls get lost in the ivy during BP all the time
they try to get them all out, but I hear that there are tons of baseballs in there.
quite frankly Im surprised it doesn’t happen more often.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
I'm in class; how did Murphy get on
Yahoo PBP skipped him:
- J. Reyes popped out to shortstop
- D. Wright singled to center, D. Murphy to third
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Hello from bleedcubbieblue!
No animosity, please. Just curious if today’s Brewers game is televised?
I’m in Milwaukee, but I don’t see it on any listings.
Am I just missing something? Not on FSN today?
by cublessinmilwaukee on Sep 3, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
No TV a big stinker
I don’t work until 4 p.m., and now I’m stuck listening to Uecker explain how they’re losing already.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm in the same boat
I think I’ll just crank up Dave Matthews and follow gameday
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Alrighty then
We need some better pitchers
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
At least Dave Bush made the problem of what do with regard to following the game once I got to class at 2 moot
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Why not
Just start throwing Sabbathia every third game.
I mean, the health of his arm is no concern anyway.
Bad, Bad, Bad Bush today.
by cublessinmilwaukee on Sep 3, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Tastes like burning
Even with a loss, though, they’re 21 games over .500 and plenty ahead in the Wild Card, with the stinky Padres headed into town. Punt, Ned, and let Bush absorb it. He’s got good control — he’s bound to get roughed up from time to time.
The Mets haven't recorded an out yet
Just sayin’ … you know … could get really, really good Mike Rivera today.
Or, it could be the day Rickie realizes all that potential. All in one super-riffic 5-5, 4 HR, 9 RBI kind of afternoon.
You know … it could happen.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Potential realizin'
2 walks, 4 SB, 4 H, 2 2B, 3 RBI, 6 R, 1 HBP, 1 CS
By my quick math, I think that’s possible.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand the sentence
“He’s got good control – he’s bound to get roughed up from time to time.”
Well, that didn't take long
It’ll be nice to face a weaker offense tomorrow…
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No kidding
San Diego is 53-85 right now
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Prediction
After the game, Ned will say: “Bushie pitched a great game, he just struggled in that one inning.”
Hence my decision to call it "screwing around" as opposed to "in-depth study."
He just made two bad pitches
If he gets a double play instead of a grand slam, it’s a totally different ballgame.
by Et tu Brewte on Sep 3, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If anyone's looking for something else to do...
Go to Kevin Goldstein’s chat and bombard him with questions about Brewers prospects.
BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"
Maybe Mark DiFelice will get to catch today
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And Kendall could get to pitch today
Anything goes!
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Which?
For what? The 6-run deficit or the massive cultural and political split in American society right now?
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just goes to show you the devastating international ramifications of one poorly located changeup.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, what?
Rickie walked?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Looks like Perez isn't pitching so well either
It’d be nice to get the bases loaded here for Braun. His BA is .304 right now, so we’ve got a shot.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Someone from the Mets should tell Perez
That’s it’s usually a good idea to throw strikes with a six-run lead.
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kendall AND rivera
just so we don’t lose any grit
I hope kendall is still pinch hit for near the end of the game (assuming we’re behind or tied)
Dang
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
My god!
has anyone noticed Ned’s order this game? First baseman not hitting cleanup?
CF hitting 3rd.
maybe that’s what threw off Bush.
I'm sure they're all having a spitting competition with sunflower seeds
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Or McClung, either way
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
At this pace:
I want to see this lineup by the 4th:
2B Joe Dillon
SS Alcides Escobar
CF Tony Gwynn, Jr.
LF Brad Nelson
RF Corey Hart
1B Mike Rivera
3B Mat Gamel
C Angel Salome
RHP Seth McClung
Hence my decision to call it "screwing around" as opposed to "in-depth study."
DiFelice in right, Gagné at short
Now that would be something. And do it quick for maximum effect. Would love to see Gagné try and short-hop a chopper from Reyes.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
Gagne would end up throwing the ball halfway between first and home missing an opportunity for an out.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Party anyone?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Or ...
… he’d hang one thigh high over the middle of the plate and give up a two-run HR.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Bush?
Did we just see (excuse me) hear some effective Bush pitching there? Wasting the Reyes leadoff triple.
I’m not giving up … until at least the 5th. If they don’t cut it in half by the 5th, then I might give up.
Use the brown eye, ump!
In other exciting news
Mens pair volleyball is on :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
No,
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
It just might, Pete
It just might
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Hoobastank?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
It was my first concert
I had to get something. Why, what’s wrong with Hoobastank?
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Grasping at straws
I was going to suggest possibly that here in the 3rd, with Jim Powell taking over, maybe their luck will change. Then I realized that’s dumb.
Jesus, why can’t the Pirates roster be forced to finish this game for the Mets?
Use the brown eye, ump!
Jim Powell's taking over?
Managing or pitching?
I hope it’s pitching, and they have a big orange Schneider truck drive on the warning track while he throws warm-up pitches.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Biggest injustice of no TV today
We’re missing home plate umpire Tom Hallion’s completely awesome called 3rd strike move and shout. Looks like Joe Frazier throwing a lefty uppercut.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Forget just the warning track
It should deliver the ball to the mound
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Pays well
And then the driver gets out, grabs a mic and talks about how well paid he is and how he gets most nights at home with the wife.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
And a dancing cell phone makes the U.S. Cellular call to the bullpen for McClung
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
at least it's not the diggers hotline like in Pittsburgh
The fact that their pen calls are sponsored by the “Call Before You Dig” number really explains everything.
2 on, 1 out
So…GIDP, pop up, or strikeout?
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Strike 'em out, throw 'em out double play
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
My fridge broke overnight.
If the Brewers don’t give me a reason to be interested soon, I’m going to have to go back to figuring out how to keep my food from rotting.
Hence my decision to call it "screwing around" as opposed to "in-depth study."
Take a cue from Ned on this one
Punt on that food and make a fresh trip to the grocery store.
Use the brown eye, ump!
by Bay View Brewer on Sep 3, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Dixie's algorithm should enjoy that 51 mph pitch
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That last pitch was ridiculous
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Glass half-full
As the game goes on, 6-0 sounds less worse in the 3rd than it does in the top of the 1st. It’ll be even less hurtful in the 5th …
… yeah, this is pretty rough.
Use the brown eye, ump!
That settles it.
I may be back later.
Hence my decision to call it "screwing around" as opposed to "in-depth study."
why
does Al Yellon’s BCB have over 200 comments on a Brewer game thread??? Its early September for gods sake!
its a change of pace
from talking everybody off the ledge since quite few people who post there are pretty angsty because of the current 4 game losing streak.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
It'd be nice
If the team didn’t make a habit of getting swept at home by first place teams. That said, if the Brewers can win 12 of their remaining games after today, the Phillies would have to win 16 of 23 just to tie.
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This is teh suck
Getting home from school, I was not anticipating this. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was on TV and we’d get to see Gamel and Escobar and Salome, but now we cant even see them.
Sat: George 2 (37, missed catch, fielding) Fri: George (35, throw) Tues: George (34, throw)
He's back!!
and thank God for that. I was sort of hoping Bush tripped on the dugout stairs and broke both arms…. We need to see more of Seth!!!
The Bambi's Bombers won because they played the game like kids! Let's do that again!!!
It looks like pitching to contact works best for him
and he’s actually remembered to do it in relief too! <3
(watch me be wrong in the 7th.)
He must be ticked
after Ned said some BS about how he was going to be used in the sixth or seventh inning all the time.
Sat: George 2 (37, missed catch, fielding) Fri: George (35, throw) Tues: George (34, throw)
hey, that's why I complain on his behalf all the time
“But Yost SAID so…so why does he only pitch every 6 days?”
Of course, hard to pitch in the 6th when most of the pitchers go 7 or 8…hmmm.
Salome!
Too bad it’s not on TV, I’m curious to see this crazy stance.
Sat: George 2 (37, missed catch, fielding) Fri: George (35, throw) Tues: George (34, throw)
Oh, so now Ned uses the catchers?
(come on, McClung can bat for himself…although with all the newbies here, he’s probably not better than the bench options unlike last week, heh)
Too bad that it probably won't help us win
I think we’re too far behind now :(
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
I thought he was sent down to learn how to avoid walking guys
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I can't wait for Rob Wooten to be up in a year or two,
just so Miller Park can all go “WOOOOOOOT” when he comes in.
Sat: George 2 (37, missed catch, fielding) Fri: George (35, throw) Tues: George (34, throw)
That'll be fun
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
on days where he's not performing well, or changes his performance inning-to-inning
be termed a “Woot off”
It would be nice to not let them score again
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Not like it really matters I guess
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Yeah, it's clearly September
Looks like McClung had the only decent pitching performance today (for weird definitions of decent involving only throwing half his pitches for strikes…ooops.) He probably won’t pitch again until the 12th or so, just because. Oh, yeah, Bush was OK after the first inning.
While the one pitcher the Brewers have with proven pinpoint control over years and years of minor league pitching, Mark DiFelice, sits. Excellent!
It seems like they didn't warm up Bush enough before the game
Especially with him pitching alright after the first inning.
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Elsewhere on this absolutely miserable day ...
Glaus homered to put the Cards up 2-0. And the Phils are playing the Nats.
Can we just start the SD series immediately?
Proudly rock your Tararrel in public.
He'll spectate.
But start at SS next year after we’ve traded JJ to an AL team for a two-starter and a reliever.
Proudly rock your Tararrel in public.
Thank g-d it's over
Now to get ready for tomorrow’s win :)
"Brett Favre looks like a man in a parking lot playing with boys." - John Madden
"Pujols just unloaded." - Bob Uecker
Ick
The least the Mets can do now is take two of three at home from the Phillies.
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To be fair
Playing meaningful games in September is a new concept. It might take getting used to.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yep.
I suppose there was bound to be a rough patch in September after that August run against mediocre and/or inferior teams. As long as the Mets stay in 1st in the East, the impact of the sweep on the standings should be minimal.
That said, I sure hope Ned realizes he’s managing for his job right now. More importantly, I hope Melvin realizes Ned’s managing for his job right now. If there is a collapse and there are no playoffs, Ned should be on the street, and if Melvin thinks that’s a tough call, he should be shown the door right behind Nedly. Attanasio has done his part and it’s more than fair to hold people accountable if they don’t capitalize on the resources they’ve been given.
FDR can suck it. - Jeff Sackmann
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
the guy drives me nuts
but I expect the him to get an extension.
My impression is that when the team has lost in the past its viewed as not from Ned’s failures but a lack of personnel and the winning that has gone on this season and last is considered in significant degree due to Ned.
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