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Joe Dillon and Russell Branyan are off. Full roster at the link above.

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not too surprised

Nelson probably won’t play much, but it is nice to have someone else who could play outfield in a pinch (besides Gwynn) as well as provide a lefty power bat off the bench.

And, it is so awesome to be thinking about playoff rosters! Whoo-hooo!

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Sep 30, 2008 5:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that has confirmation that Mota made it.

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by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 30, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just read on espn bottom line

burrell was removed from batting practice with lower back discomfort

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Sep 30, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

link here

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Sep 30, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also from that article
Brewers general manager Doug Melvin, who has not been GM of a postseason team since the Rangers won the American League West in 1999, and Gord Ash, who was the Blue Jays’ assistant GM when they won the AL East in 1993, had to brush up on their postseason roster rules. An injured player can be replaced mid-series, but it must be a pitcher-for-pitcher or player-for-player move, and it must be approved by the Commissioner’s Office, Ash said. Brewers doctors would confer with MLB medical officials to ensure a player is legitimately injured.

Um….didn’t we discuss that a month or so ago? the player-for-player rule is out the window, as otherwise teams could just field a pitcher in one game or have a position player toss to one batter.

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by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 30, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They are making remarkable progress

They were two years behind us on firing Ned, now they’re only two months behind us post-season roster rules.

by Getting Yosted on Sep 30, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from a Mets site (metsfever)
The first rule change was for the 2007 playoffs in which there were no longer ratio, any player from the 40 man roster could replace an eligible player placed on the DL. So last year when Carlos Delgado broke his hand on the last day of the season if the Mets had made the playoffs they could have replaced him with Philip Humber if they want to.

This year the players no longer have to be on the active 25 man roster as of Aug. 31, all they need to be is on the 40 man roster. As of this year a playoff team can select any 25 players regardless of the ratio or time spent in the majors for the playoffs. This rule change is why four players went on the 60-day DL on Aug. 31 and were replaced on the 40 man roster but those players weren’t brought up. In 2006 Al Reyes or Ricardo Rincon could have only made the playoff roster if a pitcher went on the DL, now Jerry and Omar can simply pick them.

The Cliff Floyd rule is still in effect, rem. Floyd made the roster but was injured in the first game and spent the series on the bench. Now a player can be DLed and replaced by another player on the 40 man roster.

After each series the team can completely restock the roster with any players from the 40 man roster. A player that makes the NLDS may not make the NLCS if the team chooses another player.

I’ve been asked about the K-Rod clause, as I understand it the Angels had a rash of injuries in Sept. of 2002 when ratios were still the rule. They ran out of pitchers on the 40 man roster and had to use a player from IN the organization. While that rule is still in-effect I believe it would be harder to do today, the rule changes were made to be more lenient but for this particular clause it made things harder. For example, in 2006 if the Mets decided late to use F-Mart in the playoffs they would have to DL the extra position players ( approx. 4-5 players) now they would have to go through the entire extra 15 men on the 40 man since ratios are no longer relevant. But still the clause is in-effect if the team doesn’t have an eligible player available due to injuries they can use a player from In the organization as long as that player was in the organization on Aug. 31

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still can’t find any citations to the rulebook. This casts doubt though on the anyone-in-the-organization-is-okay thing.

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by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 30, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mid-series moves due to injury are still pitcher-for-pitcher, etc.

It’s when you’re setting your roster before each series that you don’t need to keep the same pitcher/player ratio.

So even if the Brewers roster on August 31 was 12 pitchers, 13 position players, the NLDS roster submitted before the series could have any mix the team wanted (say 11 pitcher, 14 players). If someone got hurt during the series, however, the team would have to keep the 11-14 setup. So if the first two games go 18 innings each and Ray Durham tweaks his hammy in Game 2, they can’t replace him with another pitcher to help the exhausted bullpen. I believe anyone that’s hurt and replaced during a series is ineligible for the next round of the playoffs, as well.

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by TheJay on Sep 30, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel shocked

Given that a big part of why Nelson is on the roster is supposedly his outfield experience, I’m surprised no article has mentioned that Gritty Kendall has experience in the outfield, too.

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by TheJay on Sep 30, 2008 5:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kendall

do you know why Kendall played so much outfield that year? (I don’t, I’m curious…)

Nelson does have a lot of OF time in, though. If I had more time tonight, I’d pull up his games played by position for the last few years, but I’m guessing he’s had at least 100 career games in the OF, maybe more like 150. It wasn’t an afterthought, either—kinda like Corey, the team really didn’t know what to do with him for a while.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Sep 30, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“As a catcher, you’ve got to have days off,” Kendall said Sunday. “I know when I’ve played 14-15 days in a row my legs get tired and I need a day off. But they also know I can’t stand to take days off.”

And neck size to baby eating ratio.

by Jordan M on Sep 30, 2008 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool, thanks

That rings some very, very dusty bells.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Sep 30, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hometown article on Nelson making the roster

"We were a little concerned with Branyan’s health, though he looked fine today in (batting practice)," Sveum said in a press release after the Brewers worked out at Citizens Bank Park. "Nelly is a combination; he’s played the most outfield of anybody else right now of those guys.

"He’s given us some really good at-bats. Knock on wood, I don’t think he’s had a poor at-bat since he’s been here."

What would Nelson be doing if he didn’t make the team?

If he hadn’t made the roster Nelson had planned to head back to Algona to help his dad with the harvest before leaving to play winter ball in the Dominican Republic.

NLDS >>> harvest.

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Oct 1, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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