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Some things to read while checking in with your listeners.

So The Official Site has given the Brewers a six out of ten score for this offseason. I know we're being patient and all that, but so far this offseason's biggest accomplishment has been NOT trading Mike Cameron for a bad centerfielder and a bad contract, so I can't justify ranking them that high. At present, I'll give them a 4, but I'll immediately upgrade it to 6 if they sign Braden Looper.

Speaking of Looper: Eric Seidman of FanGraphs took a look at him as part of a piece on Type B pitchers. He projects Looper's 2009 value at 1.9 wins, or about $9.5 million, and thinks someone should sign him to a 2 year/ $18 million deal. I'll take it.

On the "largely unfounded rumor" front, as noted in this Rumorville post, the Nationals are interested in Prince Fielder, but the Brewers are reportedly reluctant to part with him. The Nationals may see this offseason as an opportunity to pick up a bunch of bargains on a buyer's market: In the last 24 hours I've seen them linked to Fielder, Orlando Hudson, Milton Bradley (not a Cub yet), and Adam Dunn.

You have until noon today to vote for Brewer Prospect #7. As of this writing, Lorenzo Cain leads Taylor Green by 20 votes. Rattler Radio is trying to get voters to stuff the ballot box for Cutter Dykstra, but it doesn't appear to be working...Dykstra has compiled 6 votes so far. Balloting for #8 will open at noon.

Award season never ends. Kevin Youkilis has beaten out Gabe Kapler and Ryan Braun for 2008 Jewish MVP.

Have you been watching the MLB Network? If you haven't, you might want to check out the 90 minute special on the 1982 team airing on January 10. Meanwhile, Squawking Baseball reports that the network is charging cable providers 24 cents per month per subscriber for their programming, less than a third of the 88 cents the NFL Network is charging. Or in other words, there's no excuse for Mediacom, my cable provider, not to have it.

On the hot stove:

Dodgers: Are working to restructure or possibly even buy out Andruw Jones' contract.
Giants: It's being reported that the team has offered a four year deal to Manny Ramirez.
Marlins: Are supposedly close to signing Scott Proctor to a one year deal that could be worth as much as $1 million.
Mets: Derek Lowe was reportedly unimpressed by their offer and will continue to look for more.

That's all for today. Drink up.

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so far this offseason…
- Lost out on CC
- Did not trade Cameron
- Signed Jorge Julio
- no overtures made to sheets yet
- but coveting Looper

Thats a 3

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 2, 2009 8:56 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since we didnt trade Cameron

Is not trading Prince, Yovani and Braun also a huge reason to be optimistic?

I agree we should be a 3 or 4 out of 10 right now, but a signing to bolster the depth of the rotation ala Looper would put it at a 6. Re-sign Sheets at a bargain and I give it an 8 or 9.

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jan 2, 2009 9:16 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think a 5...

in context, would be only losing a little bit. We all suspected Sabathia was gone, so managing to keep it as “slight decline but still contending” would be considered the middle of the road for me.

I don't specifically articulate my motives, because that wouldn't travel as well as a boo does.

by KLSnow on Jan 2, 2009 9:37 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Mark A should lobby to have the Brewers moved to the NL West, that would probably improve the outlook for 2009 considerably, too.

by Zeyes on Jan 2, 2009 9:47 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not necessarily

If the Giants sign Manny, that makes them a much better team in the west. Hell, if they sign Manny and then trade for Hall, I’m jumping ship, myself. I’d much prefer the Brian Sabean method of “wildly overpay for all players, hoping to hit on a good one” to the Doug Melvin “wait everyone out and then complain about the economics of the business” approach to GMing.

by Marty McSuperFly on Jan 2, 2009 10:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I don't think that what we expected should matter.

Losing Sabathia for a 2nd rounder and a sandwich pick makes us worse, even if it was unsurprising and not necessarily Melvin’s fault. If we’re grading the offseason thus far (rather than Melvin’s performance, which I think necessitates a consideration of what’s possible to control and what isn’t), then I think a 4 is pretty damn generous.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 2, 2009 1:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 is still failing to contend in my book

and that’s where the looper signing would put it for me

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 2, 2009 9:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW

how was 50 first dates?

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 2, 2009 11:29 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Ha!

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 2, 2009 1:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

According to some of the posters on the NY posts blog...

They think that we should trade Prince for Dice-K straight up. I think I’d be incredibly cool with that if we could also sign Dunn to fill the void.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/01/3_up_bosox_hitt.html

by kdfan16 on Jan 2, 2009 11:03 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Silly trade season

The Brewers already have enough starter candidates who walk the ballpark, and Fielder at 1B and Youkilis at 3B would probably cost the Sox as many runs as Fielder would bring in with the bat. (Even if Lowell is replaced by Lowrie.)

I can imagine why the Brewers would pull the trigger on this (needing pitcher, having Gamel attempt to play 1B, already having Brad Nelson who does play 1B) but why on earth would the Sox want to?

by morineko on Jan 2, 2009 11:30 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also,

Ryan Braun totally beats out Youk for Jewish MVP, if only for that razor commercial he did.

by kdfan16 on Jan 2, 2009 11:04 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm wondering why he chose to endorse Remington and not Braun?

Also, I’m glad that Kapler made the Jewish MVP list, even if I think Braun deserved to be on it too.

"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"

by kirbir on Jan 2, 2009 11:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or anything else that sounds or looks like his name

Brawny paper towels
BRAs and UNderwear
UPS – What can Brown do for you?

by tcyoung on Jan 2, 2009 6:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve been out of touch for a while. Has there been any further news with with Looper since Dec 22? Do we really think the Brewers have a chance to sign him?

by ecocd on Jan 2, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No news

But it also sounds like DM was out of the office for the holidays (he’s on a cruise in the Virgin Islands). So I’m hoping/guessing they’ll resume talks once he’s back.

I don't specifically articulate my motives, because that wouldn't travel as well as a boo does.

by KLSnow on Jan 2, 2009 2:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im giving it a 4, being Very generous

we figured we would lose CC, but we all counted on getting a number 1 pick from that, n that didnt happen. we also figured to get a number 1 pick for sheets, which also might not happen. doesnt look like we will get smoltz johnson or hoffman.(3 guys that i wanted) we signed some bullpen arms, dont kno if they are going to hurt or help yet, but if we sign looper, i will bump up that 4 to a solid 4.5. definitely not all the way up to a 6, that is just ridiculous. if we resign sheets, along with signing looper, i will give us a huge jump in the grading system, not to mention that i will love a rotation of sheets, gallardo, parra, looper, bush. hell, if we could trade suppan for a fresh tin of tobacco, along with getting looper and sheets, id give our offseason grade a 9.5

by BrewerBlue87 on Jan 2, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't go that high

Think about it for a second. We are replacing CC with Looper in that scenario. Does that move put us in contention? Of course not. Retaining sheets and getting looper would put us at a 7. Give me a closer, and I bump it up to an 8. 9 or 10 are damn near impossible barring some unforeseen miracle where we get Sheets and… I don’t know, trade for Peavy. That would put it above 9 for me.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 2, 2009 8:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually....

…we’re replacing CC with Gallardo, assuming his knee/arm can handle a full load this season. I’m surprised how many people I’ve talked with forget that we were supposed to have him in the rotation last year. In his scenario, Looper would actually be replacing Suppan in the rotation.

I still agree that we need to find a closer, though it’s looking like the answer to that question will come in house this year.

by TheBurningRom on Jan 2, 2009 11:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fans often make crazy suggestions

This one is from a columnist at azcentral which I think is a newspaper website.

The Diamondbacks have perhaps $4 million to spend this off-season. So what if they came at Sheets with a backloaded, three-year deal structured like this: $4 million in 2009, $8 million in 2010, $12 million in 2011 with a team option for 2012 worth $12 million, including a $3 million buyout. Guaranteed money: $27 million.

The numbers are insane – 4 million for the first year, but then they want a team option on a fourth year?

by ol Pete on Jan 2, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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