Brewers could be done dealing?

by BenSheets15 on Jan 27, 2009 6:20 PM CST Comment 16 comments

Brewers Could Be Done Dealing By Drew Silva [January 27, 2009 at 6:15pm CST]

MLB.com's Adam McCalvy of MLB.com passes along some telling quotes from Brewers GM Doug Melvin. It sounds like the club is done dealing, at least with major free agents.

"We're pretty far down the road of building our ballclub," Melvin said. "But it's still going to be competitive, and you can never predict whether you'll have injuries or whether you'll make waiver claims... There's probably players we don't know of yet that [will be acquired] by waiver claims or trades before the season starts. But as far as going to Spring Training, yeah, I don't think there's going to be that much more activity."

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by Supertramp on Jan 27, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Thus signals the end of a very mismanaged and disappointing off-season

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 27, 2009 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

My question to everyone:

What differently would you have done?

by HRF on Jan 27, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

No Cameron Option

or trade him.

Actually, literally DANGLE Fielder for a SP.

Try to sign a FA SP.

Internally solve the closer problem.

I don’t know. Pretty much…I’d have addressed the greatest area of need on the team. That being starting pitching.

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 27, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would have scheduled a fitted hat day for next year. Hats just like the players wear!

by Supertramp on Jan 28, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I would've been honest with the fans from the start

No false hopes of CC, no pretending to be a player in the market, just say from the start, we can’t afford these two stud pitchers we are letting go, and we are going into next season with the players we currently have on roster.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 28, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oh...

plus trevor hoffman. Just say from the start, we are going to get a proven closer, a little bullpen help, but thats it. Don’t pretend that we are going after some SPs

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 28, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not getting this

So he shouldn’t have tried to make an offer to Sabathia? And do you really think he knew he’d be signing Hoffman? I think it’s pretty unrealistic for a GM to come out in October and say: “Okay, we’re going to do this, this, and this, so don’t get your hopes up.”

I would love to see Sheets back too, absolutely. But he hasn’t signed yet. When did he pretend to go after some starting pitching? He made a realistic offer to Sabathia and got turned down. Other than Sheets, there aren’t any other big starting pitchers out there that I would even want.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jan 28, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you

Except for Hoffman. Obviously, CV was being considered, and I think internally we could have made something happen.

$16MM extra in payroll ought to have been enough to get, say, Ben Sheets on a 2/22.

Oh well. Maybe the rotation will prove everyone wrong.

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 28, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think would is the proper word

I hesitate a guess that if Melvin could have signed Sheets with the money (only part of the money) he signed Hoff for, we would have him back already. I think Prince/JJ/Hart were shopped for SPs, it just didn’t click. Fact is, many players still don’t want to play in Wisconsin.

If the Crew has to overpay, they can’t, cause they will suck more in the long run and have to overpay more (most likely).

I think Melvin did what he could do not what he would of liked to do.

by Braunstalker on Jan 29, 2009 2:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fact is, many players still don’t want to play in Wisconsin.

I seriously doubt that GMs ask players if they’d like to play in Wisconsin when weighing a trade.

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 29, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No Cameron Option...should have been the starting point

Yeah Cameron put up decent numbers with that suspension, but this team really needs one guy to hit doubles and singles and get on base so we don’t live and die by the long ball again Hardy did it in September and the Playoffs but we need it all year round. We have a enough power especially if Weeks ever decides to hit like a major league player…TGJr should get a look and use that 10 million to from Cameron’s salary to go after a starting pitcher…While Hoffman will probably prove to be a nice addition, another 6.4 million that doesn’t need to be on the books…Starting pitching is the biggest issue what’s the point of closer if you can’t get a quality start more often than once every 5 games.

by Brewcityhoya13 on Jan 27, 2009 10:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sheeter from the bargain rack and a stiff in CF...

…beats the current outlook. The only way we win 90 (80?) games this year will be to put George Webb out of business.

The trade for SP prospects may, unfortunately, come at midseason.

by infield fly on Jan 28, 2009 8:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think Cameron is by far the best option we have in center, despite our need for an onbase/contact hitter (Rickie, this is where you are supposed to come in one of these years). Yes, we could have freed up some money by dumping Cam, but if you look at what he produces in power/speed/defense I think he was worth picking up.

Melvin has said that there were no Fielder talks because other teams knew the asking price – a 1 or 2 starter. I don’t know about you guys, but trading prince for a 3rd starter probably isn’t a good idea.

As for Hoffman, I think we needed to get someone in the bullpen. This move also may help the starting rotation at the same time. If Villanueva was going to be our fill-in closer, adding Hoffman now frees up Villanueva to possibly enter the rotation or at worst add depth to the bullpen.

As nice as it would have been to pick up a starter, if you look at last year before we got CC, we were somewhere around 10 games above .500 and in the playoff race. Assuming we lose Sheets this year, but add Gallardo (stay healthy, stay healthy, stay healthy,…) I think there is plenty of hope. Also add anything Cappy does to that as bonus (he was an 18 game winner not too long ago).

by ajoconnor on Jan 28, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ANYTHING he does?

by tcyoung on Jan 28, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed on the Cameron part. Gwynn, Brewcityhoya, should not “get a look” — get over it, he sucks. Cameron is still likely to be worth far more than he’s paid (last year he was worth something like $18mm and we paid him $5mm), and there’s no immediate replacement from within. if we really think we’re going to compete this year, gotta go with Cameron in CF, unless he would have netted us Ian Kennedy from the Yankees, but that was never going to happen.

Hoffman, I’m so-so about. i think it’s backwards to build the bullpen with so many question marks in the rotation. Suppan is a #5 at best at this point, and he’s headed into the season as our #4. beefing up the rotation saves the bullpen, and there are always cheap or in-house ways to fill in bullpen holes — Melvin’s done it in the past.

i think we needed to make a better offer to Sheets, or maybe go after Derek Lowe, not sign Hoffman. i would have shopped Prince, seriously, too.

"Nothing is working right now with a lot of the guys. We're trying to see pitches and see what we can do. ... I'm not going to sit there and walk, though. I'll eventually find it, and hopefully we'll still be in it." -Corey Hart

by baumann on Jan 28, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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