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BCB Projections: The Bullpen, Closing RF

Introduction, CA | 1B | 2B | 3B | SS | LF | CF | RF | SP

Corey Hart's projection has been packaged up and delivered.

BCB: .277/.333/.466

CHONE:.278/.335/.479

ZiPS: .282/.331/.491

That concludes our tour of the starting position players. I'll wrap up the whole lineup for tomorrow with our defense post.

Today we'll tackle the bullpen. I've struggled with how to set this up. First, we're going to disregard leverage for today, we'll wait a bit on that. Next, playing time is going to be tough to project-- if Morlan makes the opening day roster, he could throw 60 innings this year, but if he doesn't, he'll probably be sent back to the Rays.

So here's the plan, as of now. Project the main bullpen guys for their true talent ERA, FIP, tERA, whatever you would like to call it, and give them an innings estimate. For guys like Morlan, you can project quite a few innings and we'll adjust accordingly once we get to spring training. Think of it is projecting these guys individually, and not as a bullpen. CHONE projects 45 innings for Mark DeFelice, and Joe Bateman for 53, for example. Don't go that extreme, but you don't have to put a cap on your allotted innings here, we'll figure that all out later-- if you add up the CHONE projected innings, you get enough for about 3 teams.

To reiterate, you don't have to project everybody, and you don't have to give everyone 50 innings-- if you want to go 20 or so on a few guys, go for it. But for cases like Morlan if we don't know if he will make the team, just go optimistic on the innings pitched and we'll arrange the bullpen projections once we get through spring training. I would like some projections for McClung, too-- don't worry about the innings as much right now, just think about the true-talent ERA from the pen. Finally, factor in roles for the two lefties. It's fine to project Stetter and Swindle for the lowest ERAs because they will be used as LOOGYs.

Same format as yesterday for the pitchers. If you're pressed for time and just want to contribute some players, or just ERA talent estimates or just playing time, go right ahead-- I realize it's asking quite a bit to get people to actually go through all of this. If we don't get a great response on this one, we'll probably default to some CHONE/community mix on the ERA.

Pitcher
True talent ERA
IP if on the team

Here's the list of your options, don't feel forced to project all of them. Also, keep working on the starting pitchers, the link is in the top line and they'll be open all weekend. The more projections we get, the more accurate we are. Thanks.

Trevor Hoffman

Carlos Villanueva

David Riske

Mitch Stetter

R.J. Swindle

Jorge Julio

Tim Dillard

Mark DiFelice

Seth McClung

Eduardo Morlan

Omar Aguilar

Todd Coffey

[Note by jihad, 01/29/09 7:20 PM CST ] Edited, in case you've read it earlier.

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I’m really excited to see what Tim Dillard brings to the table in the Majors. He wasn’t all that bad when we called him up around that Boston series either, he and DiFelice actually.

by Lavender on Jan 29, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

Don’t forget Morlan, he’s not listed in that group, though sufficiently mentioned.

by marty22 on Jan 29, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

Hoffman
3.9
70

Villanueva
3.1
92

Riske
3.9
60

Stetter
3.0
45

Swindle
4.2
30

Julio
3.96
66

Dillard
3.7
45

DiFelice
4.7
30

McClung
4.0
120

Bateman
4.5
20

by marty22 on Jan 29, 2009 5:22 PM CST reply actions  

oops

pena
4.2
20

aguilar
3.2
30

morlan
3.8
50

by marty22 on Jan 29, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

damn

this is really hard….no way our bullpen turns out this good. my projections look like the optimistic projections for each reliever. there is so much year-to-year fluctuation with relievers, which makes this a very difficult exercise.

by marty22 on Jan 29, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hoffman
4.05
65

Villanueva
3.95
85

Riske
3.72
70

Stetter
3.45
35

Swindle
2.99
15

Julio
4.50
30

Dillard
4.05
35

DiFelice
3.76
45

Morlan
4.50
40

McClung
3.95
60

by MadJimiBrewha on Jan 29, 2009 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

Hoffman
3.75
52.3

Villanueva
3.25
67

Riske
3.95
62

Morlan
4.15
45

Julio
4.40
40

Coffey
4.10
68

Stetter
2.65
40

Dillard
4.45
50

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 29, 2009 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

Ryan Braun
130 HRs
80000 RBIs
.900 BA

…I seem to have missed the point here.

by HRF on Jan 30, 2009 3:32 AM CST reply actions  

So here’s the plan, as of now. Project the main bullpen guys for their true talent ERA, FIP, tERA, whatever you would like to call it, and give them an innings estimate.

That should help you some.

Fielding independent pitching is typically a deal lower than real ERA. So, FIP of 3.75 could be an actual ERA of 4.25.

We were told to evaluate their talent via ERA, not project what you think their ERA is going to be in 2009.

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 30, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Hoffman
4.35
55

Villanueva
3.50
85

Riske
4.00
50

Stetter
2.75
40

Swindle
3.50
25

Julio
5.00
35

Dillard
3.75
45

DiFelice
4.25
90

Morlan
4.50
40

Dont forget Todd Coffey
3.45
60

He’s not the worst pitcher ever, just the worst good pitcher.

by Kyle Lobner on Jan 30, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

Coffey

is not listed on the Brewers CHONE projection page, for whatever reason, so that’s why I missed him. He’s on there now.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jan 30, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Hoffman
3.85
50

Villanueva
3.50
85

Swindle
2.80
40

Stetter
3.10
40

Riske
4.50
50

Julio
4.15
50

McClung
3.35
50

Morlan
4.45
50

DiFelice
4.25
50

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by Jack Moore on Jan 30, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

And to wrap these up

Trevor Hoffman
3.5
55

Carlos Villanueva
3.1
75

David Riske
4
65

Mitch Stetter
3.3
60

R.J. Swindle
2.9
40

Jorge Julio
4.2
50

Tim Dillard
40
4.3

Mark DiFelice
50
4

Eduardo Morlan
50
4.7

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Feb 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

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