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The Statcorner/Lookout Landing crew lists the win values of pitchers last year, just based on their hitting. As we know, Zambrano is just a monster. It's interesting to note that you can probably deduct a half win or so from Sheets's value, he was the fourth worst at about -.5 wins last year. Dave Bush was down there as well, Manny Parra checked in around +.5. It's an interesting reference for the value of pitchers hitting. I was surprised that there can be a full win of difference between a good and bad hitting pitcher.

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Suppan is terrible

just in general

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by Jack Moore on Feb 3, 2009 1:18 AM CST reply actions  

incentives

It’d be great to see a hitting incentive in the contract for pitchers. For Zambrano it could be $10k for a HR. Suppan could get money for his sacrifices (he didn’t hit, but Suppan can put bunts down).

For Ben Sheets it could be $1k for every time his bat touched the ball — that would only put the team back some $4k.

by ecocd on Feb 4, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

unfortunately you can't

Somebody made this comment in another post. For some reason, you cannot give performance-based incentives. You can, however, give playing time-based incentives.

For instance, you will never see a bonus for 30 saves, 40 saves, etc. You always see that bonus being given for games finished. So, I guess you could give pitchers incentives based on Plate Appearances, but that would go hand in hand with IP for starters.

I guess what it comes down to is this: If you have two pitchers with similar stats on your team fighting for a spot, they’re hitting could be a legitimate factor.

by tcyoung on Feb 4, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

their*

I’m turning into Tom H

by tcyoung on Feb 4, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is part of baseball's Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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by Jack Moore on Feb 5, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

ah, you're splitting hairs

took me a minute.

if you come up with a pic for picking nits, I’ll be impressed.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 5, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

ahhhhh

I thought it was a shark tooth. I didn’t know what the hair was, though

by tcyoung on Feb 5, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

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