Friday's Community Frosty Mug

by Kyle Lobner on Jan 9, 2009 8:00 AM CST Comment 41 comments

So, as Wisconsin braces itself for yet another winter storm, I'll be driving through it again. Great.

In an effort to get there safely, I left early and as such, I don't have time to write the Mug this morning.

As such, today we've got a Community Frosty Mug again. Read something interesting today? Post it in the comments. The Mug will return on its normal schedule on Monday.

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Derek Carty over at the Hardball Times says that Hoffman’s off year was more the result of bad luck than a declining skillset.

I was a little surprised to see that his 9.2 K/9 and 1.8 BB/9 were both better than his previous two years. He got killed on home runs per fly ball last year at 15.4%. In fact the author points out that the HR/FB stat is the only stat that is way off.

by grant76 on Jan 9, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting… and more statistics?

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ken Rosenthal

Ken Rosenthal thinks that the best way for the Brewers to acquire a good young pitcher is to trade Prince Fielder for pitching and replace him with Adam Dunn.

He lists Matt Cain, Joe Saunders, and Ervin Santana as possibilities. Maybe that opens a future path for Matt Gamel as well.

by grant76 on Jan 9, 2009 9:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

MLBTR comment:

Which begs the question, why wouldn’t the team giving up this premium pitching just sign Dunn instead?

Kind of brings up a good point.

by Supertramp on Jan 9, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If everyone was smart, this is a great point

But…..when it comes to evaluating Adam Dunn, many many baseball people have their heads up their asses.

I wouldn’t be surprised in Dunn out-OPS’s Fielder (again) this year, but Dunn is viewed as a one-dimensional player who strikes out too much, while some people view Fielder as one of the most talented young players in baseball.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jan 9, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

which brings up the reality

we’re not trying to trade Dunn here. Prince is the trade commodity. For me, it would take more than Cain to get Prince. Especially when Bill James rates him as the best player under 25.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Jan 9, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and he has multiple years of control remaining

by tcyoung on Jan 9, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Rosenthals of the world always want to trade lots of players, have others change positions et cetera. I doubt there is a single GM who doesn’t know that Prince is going to be traded and he could be traded now for the right package.

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

right

it’s just a question of, “when?”

by tcyoung on Jan 9, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

or rather “how much?”

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

“to whom?”

by tcyoung on Jan 9, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Adam Dunn doesn't like baseball

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by TheJay on Jan 9, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

neither did jeff kent.

neither did Honus Wagner.

"Nothing is working right now with a lot of the guys. We're trying to see pitches and see what we can do. ... I'm not going to sit there and walk, though. I'll eventually find it, and hopefully we'll still be in it." -Corey Hart

by baumann on Jan 9, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was saying that tongue in cheek. Not sure what emoticon could represent that if he was. : – 0_

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No idea on the emoticon

I was echoing the Blue Jays GM.

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by TheJay on Jan 9, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Right, but do you believe him?

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No

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by TheJay on Jan 9, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And I thought you were a long-lost Brennaman...

by Zeyes on Jan 10, 2009 5:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tom H, via Doug Melvin, noted that Hoffman’s ERA was slightly inflated last year because of 2 bad outings.

On April 2 against Houston he allowed four runs in two-thirds of an inning and on June 1 in San Francisco he surrendered three runs in one-third of an inning.

Beyond those blow-ups against the Astros and Giants, Hoffman compiled a 2.44 ERA in his other 46 assignments.

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jan 9, 2009 9:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Here is the story of the Astros game. The pitch to Berkman was a fastball down the middle.

by ol Pete on Jan 9, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Turnbow's ERA was inflated last year because of two bad outings

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by TheJay on Jan 9, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Otherwise, he was an all-star

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 9, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I have to give that a rec

one of my favorite running jokes on the site.

September 15: Not a bad little Monday

by molitorfan on Jan 10, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I try to avoid self-linking here, but I was reading all the stuff in the JS about the Hoffman signing and noticed the part where it mentioned that he talked with the Brewers’ head trainer about his conditioning program….

…well, I attended a Padres at Rockies game in August and he definitely has a routine going. (He was also doing a fair bit of running, mostly with Clay Hensley. It was v.v. hot and humid and most of the other pitchers looked like they wanted to curl up and die.

by morineko on Jan 9, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

"when I think about you I link myself... I link myself... I honestly do..."

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 11, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Rumor from a source I just made up,

Fielder for Greinke DO IT!!!

by Lavender on Jan 9, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

pfft, the royals have MIKE JACOBS

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Juuuust a bit outside!!
http://www.rightfieldbleachers.com

by Jack Moore on Jan 9, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

For those of you outside Milwaukee

He’s the 10 o’clock news anchor for Milwaukee’s NBC affiliate, WTMJ.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 9, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As you can see from when he won this award, he's quite old.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 9, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I remember when there was a sailboat stuck on the breakwater or something

They had a breaking news report consisting of him calling in from his dwelling.

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by TheJay on Jan 9, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That logo

is that a sex panther in the logo?

September 15: Not a bad little Monday

by molitorfan on Jan 10, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Jacobs: Sex Panther of the Year

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 10, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know they had Sex Panthers in 1885.

I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 11, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He will give you the news 60% of the time every time.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 11, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs