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Prince Fielder, seen here checking under his jersey for another jersey, will likely be offered a long term contract by the Brewers this offseason, according to Jon Heyman.

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Prince Fielder, seen here checking under his jersey for another jersey, will likely be offered a long term contract by the Brewers this offseason, according to Jon Heyman.

Some things to read while learning your costume's limitations.

Two more names have surfaced in the search for a new pitching coach: Former Arizona pitching coach Bryan Price and former Rays pitching coach Chuck Hernandez have both reportedly interviewed for the position this week (FanShot). Rick Peterson still appears to be the favorite, but Hernandez has worked with Macha before, and that fact seems to carry some weight for some reason.

It's widely accepted that Albert Pujols will win the NL MVP, but where will Prince Fielder finish? David Gassko of The Hardball Times has developed a system to predict the BBWAA's voting, and it predicts a third place finish for Fielder, behind Pujols and Ryan Howard. Meanwhile, Jon Heyman thinks the Brewers will attempt to sign Fielder to a long term deal this offseason.

USA Today has ranked the "shock wave" celebration following Fielder's walk-off home run on September 6 as one of their top ten highlights of the 2009 season. Certainly, it's a moment we'll remember for quite some time.

This is earlier than I normally do birthdays, but happy birthday to Trevor Hoffman, who turns 42 today. As Adam McCalvy notes, Hoffman will become the second oldest player in franchise history with his first appearance in 2010, and could pass Hank Aaron for first place by appearing in a game anytime after June.

Speaking of pitchers who should return next season, there's a new reason to join the Bring Back Seth McClung Facebook group. McClung has agreed to give an autographed ball to one randomly selected member of the group, to be chosen on Monday. Membership of the group more than doubled yesterday, but clearly we can do better. If you haven't joined yet, now is the time.

R.J. Anderson of FanGraphs has a look at Felipe Lopez, who is riding a career year into free agency for the second time. Anderson notes the differences between Lopez's 2005 and 2009 seasons.

We're just a few hours away from the start of the Arizona Fall League, as the Peoria Javelinas take on Ian Kennedy and the Surprise Rafters at 1:35 Central time today. Adam McCalvy has a preview of the AFL, complete with a link to this PDF of everything you ever wanted to know about the league, and this definition of a Javelina:
Here's something you won't find in that PDF: A javelina, according to the Arizona Game and Fish Department, is also known as a peccary, a medium-sized mammal that looks a bit like a pig. A terrifying, crazed pig.
Here are some other notes on the AFL:
  • As far as I know, none of the Brewer beat reporters will be in Arizona covering the AFL, but the Javelinas also feature prospects from the Seattle Mariners, and Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times will be in Arizona following them.
  • If Baker's coverage and ours aren't enough for you, you can also follow the AFL on Twitter.
Of course, the AFL isn't the only place where baseball is being played right now. The Nashville Sounds' website has a note on the 2009 Sounds playing winter ball in Venezuela. Hernan Iribarren's Cardenales de Lara defeated Adam Heether's Leones del Caracas last night, 7-1. Iribarren went 1-for-4 with a double and scored a run, while Heether went 0-for-3 with a walk.

Need a mental tune-up this morning? NoahJ wants to know how fast you can name the 39 players who appeared in a game for the Brewers this season. I did it with about four and a half minutes to spare, if you need a record to shoot for.

Oh, and if you haven't yet, you're running out of time to cast your ballot in Tangotiger's Fan Scouting Report. Even if you've already cast a ballot, you can stop by to rate some of the players that have recently been added, including Alcides Escobar.

If you've done both of those things and you're still looking for something to do, perhaps you should find a job? The Brewers are hiring an HR Coordinator.

Baseball America's Minor League Transactions include the first wave of players to become minor league free agents this offseason, and there's a bunch of former Brewers among them: Greg Aquino, R.J. Swindle, Glendon Rusch, R.A. Dickey and Joe Dillon. Also noted: The Brewers re-signed minor league free agents Jim Henderson (RP) and Patrick Arlis (C), but allowed Chris Duffy to become a free agent.

Elsewhere in the marketplace:
  • Intro to Sabermetrics 101 has a look at Carl Pavano, and why advanced metrics would imply he was better than his conventional numbers showed in 2009.
  • Jorge Says No! wonders if Jason Marquis' offseason asking price will go down now that he struggled down the stretch and had his start skipped in the NLDS last night.
Continuing their open search process, the Astros have released the names of the ten candidates for their vacant managerial position, and the list includes two former Brewer managers: Ned Yost, as expected, and Phil Garner, who would be entering his second tour of duty managing the team. Garner reportedly called to advocate for Bob Melvin, who coached under him in Milwaukee, but ended up as a candidate himself. The Astros, by the way, are not considering Willie Randolph.

It was a bittersweet moment at TBS headquarters last night, as the end of the final NLDS series meant they'll only get 13 of a possible 20 Division Series broadcasts, but that didn't keep them from celebrating the elimination of the last small market team. Of course, Hass Avocado is the true winner.

I wasn't exactly cheering on the Dodgers over the weekend, but when they won I was happy to see Mark Loretta playing a part in it. Loretta languished for years on some pretty terrible Brewer teams, so it's nice to see karma catching up with him.

I mentioned Trevor Hoffman's birthday above, but today birthday wishes also go out to Damian Miller, who turns 40.

Drink up.

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Duffy

I wonder if any team will sign him to help their AAA club in April before he decides he’s done for the year again.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 13, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cant really blame the guy

He hasnt made a ton of money playing baseball, but he has made a lot more than most people will make in their lifetimes. He’s a college guy, and just had a baby, I can completely relate to not wanting to go back to work.

Wasnt there a health issue with the new baby? Again, if thats the case, I can relate to why he didnt come back.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where'd you hear about the health issue with the baby?

It makes sense, given his response, but I don’t recall seeing that anywhere, just that he was dealing with a “personal issue.”

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by KLSnow on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Centerfielder Chris Duffy, assigned outright to Class AAA Nashville on May 26, has been placed on that club’s inactive list. Duffy went home to Arizona for the birth of a child after playing three games with Nashville and never rejoined the club. Brewers assistant general manager Gord Ash said Duffy’s absence was “a delicate issue” that he could not detail. “All I can tell you is he’s dealing with some personal issues,” said Ash, who did not know when Duffy might return.

Think it was a TH story, I found it on Brewerfan

by Supertramp on Oct 13, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's the story I recall too.

A mention that he went home for a birth and never came back, but no official (or even unofficial) confirmation that anything was wrong with the baby. The explanation makes sense, but we don’t know that that’s it.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by KLSnow on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought there was one

Most of what I heard/read about it was from here, so I dont specifically know that there was a health issue, it was an assumption.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second time he left a major league organization mid-season

He quit the Pirates for a while, too. I wonder if the baby arriving (healthy or not) made him re-examine his decision to resume playing.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 13, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fielder

I know they have to do it to show good faith, but what kind of offer does everyone think will be made to him?

Whatever it is, its probably something that will not be accepted, and also something the Brewers shouldnt even be offering, not can afford.

I’m still of the belief that if they move him either this offseason or before July 31, its in the best interest of the team.

The Red Sox loss to the Angels has a lot of people talking Fielder and the Red Sox, if the Sox made a huge overpay, which they probably would not do, along the lines of Buchholz, Lars Anderson, Daniel Bard, and Michael Bowden it has to be accepted.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just give him the money (most? all? whatever) that was earmarked for Sabathia

If they felt they could compete with Sabathia making big money, they can figure out how to compete with Fielder making big money. Any big extension wouldn’t kick in until 2011 anyway, so it wouldn’t hurt the books next year.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 13, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine.

Give him the money they offered Sabathia.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 13, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Semantics aside, then

Remember the dollar figure that was offered to Sabathia? Replace those fictional dollars with real ones and offer them to Fielder.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by KLSnow on Oct 13, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd hope they'd at least make an offer

I don’t see those talks going anywhere, but they need to make a good faith offer, at least. Nothing too lowball, but not what it would actually take to sign him.

Then again, with no major talent coming up from the minors for a few years, they might want to spend the money now to keep someone on the roster that will get butts in the seats. Fielder merchandise also has to be worth a fair amount of cash to the Brewers. I doubt every fan that would buy a Fielder jersey will instead be happy to buy a Gallardo or Braun jersey.

by ecocd on Oct 13, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alternatively

Take the money offered to Cordero (which was surely a real offer), add it to what Fielder will already be making next year, and you’re pretty much there.

Or take the money that will be off the books once Suppan leaves.

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by SRB on Oct 13, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I think the Cordero money is pretty much gone at this point, but... yeah

I’d have to believe that it’d be a pure extension, in that it wouldn’t replace his 2010 salary… although, that’s a possibility too, although not one I’d care to think all that much about.

by Mykenk on Oct 13, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, Suppan

SRB has convinced me. With Suppan coming off the books, the Brewers can make a competitive run at Fielder in 2011 assuming the Yankees aren’t seriously courting him.

Doesn’t Fielder’s FA contract depend almost entirely on Pujols’ contract? They’re in exactly the same position. First basemen, rabid home fanbase and annual contender for MVP. Fielder gets as much or slightly less than Pujols. Negotiations will be dependent mostly on years.

by ecocd on Oct 13, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. Fielder will not get close to Pujols money, unless he can perform year in and year out, and prove that he can stay healthy. (so far so good, though)

A lot of people are going to have issues with his weight/defensive abilities, although he’s shown this year that those concerns aren’t necessarily well-founded.

Fielder is still a much riskier bet than Pujols, and will be paid accordingly.

by Mykenk on Oct 13, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

If some sort of DH discount will be applied to Fielder when he gets to FA. Ryan Howard and Mark Teixeira both are getting $19-$20 million per, but Fielder has performed just as well as both of those players.

I would not be shocked at all to see Pujols get ARod and Manny type of money with his next contract. I would assume the Cardinals can afford it, which is a big difference between the Brewers regarding Fielder.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I'll give you defense

I think Fielder’s next contract would still put him in the age range where his injury risk would be notable given his pristine history.

backtocali might be right to say Howard and Teixeira would be better comparisons, but Pujols will still be the most recent contract negotiated in that mold.

by ecocd on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Ryan Howard and Pujols will enter FA the same year that Fielder does.

Off the top of my head, the teams that would need or be looking for a 1B would be the Red Sox, Angels (if Morales doesnt keep things up), Dodgers, Giants, Orioles, White Sox, Mariners, and maybe the Nationals (I include the O’s and Nats here because both teams have shown and have mentioned that they would put up big money for the right player). If the Phillies and Cards just dont re-up their own guy they are in there too.

Take all of those teams and have a 3 way bidding war for each player, and Fielder could wind up being someones runner up consolation prize, at a discount to boot.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even in Monopoly, you can't always buy Boardwalk.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 13, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, he won the HR derby

Remember how the Home Run Derby destroys your swing for the rest of the season? Fielder really, really suffered for winning this year, didn’t he?

by ecocd on Oct 13, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He hit 50 HR’s in the only other year that he was in the contest. Mayeb the Brewers should have a HR contest at the beginning of each year.

by grant76 on Oct 13, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wouldn't be hard to make a push for Prince

There is a lot of money coming off payroll in the next two years. There is no reason to believe that DM can’t make Prince an offer that would keep him here for a few more season and would leave enough payroll to pick up an arm or two for the rotation.

by Mr. McGehee on Oct 13, 2009 1:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Sure there is plenty of reason

1) Fielder is good and not a scrap heap player.
2) Fielder was never part of the Rangers system.
3) Fielder is not a washed up Cardinals pitcher
4) Fielder is not gritty.

Seeing as he doesn’t’ qualify by matching any of the above mentioned criteria for Free Agent High Priced acquisitions, he will be let go of for probably a sandwich pick and a rant about small market teams.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 13, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boras will probably look to get him a contract that takes him to age 31/32,

setting him up for another contract at his prime age, so we’d have to make an offer just as good if not better than what he could potentially get from the Red Sox/Angels..

I’d be VERY surprised if Boras lets Fielder sign an extension before testing the Free Agent market.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that

Even if the Brewers have “money coming off the payroll” for the next few years, The size of the payroll is just not going to be able to rise at all given the size of the Milwaukee market. And as a result, the Brewers are never going to be able to offer such a large portion of their payroll, to one player. This is how Fielder will have himself priced out of town.

As mentioned above, the offer last year to Sabaythia was never really there. They may make the offer, but doing so with full knowledge that Scott Boras isnt going to let one of his big money clients sign long term in a place like Milwaukee, when he can get a sizeable premium from a larger market team, with bigger national media exposure.

by backtocali on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill hall is still on the books next year

And what’s to say Doug Melvin won’t do something boneheaded like sign McGehee to a 5 year 100M contract? Or overcompensate to the fan reaction and sign McClung for several mil a year?

In other words, even though there might be money coming off the books over the next few years, don’t count on there not being more money going on them for equally worthless (or rather overvalued) players like we have now in Soup and Hall.

by PagsBrewCrew on Oct 13, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 14, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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