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Game Thread #162: Brewers (79-82) at Cardinals (91-70)

Milwaukee Brewers at St. Louis Cardinals, Oct 4, 2009 1:15 PM CDT



Current Series

Brewers lead the series 2-0

Fri 10/02 WP: Braden Looper (14 - 7)
LP: Kyle McClellan (4 - 4)
12 - 6 win
Sat 10/03 WP: Carlos Villanueva (4 - 10)
SV: Trevor Hoffman
LP: Kyle Lohse (6 - 10)
5 - 4 win

Milwaukee Brewers
@ St. Louis Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 4, 2009, 1:15 PM CDT
Busch Stadium

Jeff Suppan vs Joel Pineiro

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around .

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Can the Brewers finish the season with a sweep in St. Louis and win 80 games for just the fourth time in 13 seasons?

Follow the jump for today's pitching matchup, lineup and conversation on today's season finale!

Star-divide

Joel Pineiro (15-12, 3.44) might have been the best pitcher on the Brewers this season (at the very least, he would have had the best ERA), but he's clearly the third best pitcher in the Cardinals' rotation. He's thrown 209 innings this season, leaving him 2.2 short of his career high, and has walked just 1.1 batters per nine innings this season, best in the NL. He's 2-0 against the Brewers this season, having beaten them with a complete game in July and again with a seven inning, four run performance in September. Jody Gerut (.308/.400/.615) hits him well, and Ryan Braun (.200/.200/.267) does not.

Meanwhile, Jeff Suppan (7-12, 5.30) will make his 30th start for the Brewers. He's pitching on short rest, which isn't exactly an ideal situation for a pitcher that's not very good anyway, but apparently his 30th start was just that important. On top of being bad overall, he's been bad lately, posting a 13.06 ERA and allowing 22 hits in his last 10.1 innings. He's only expected to throw 2-3 innings today. Hopefully that won't be enough to take the Brewers out of the game.

He's expected to be followed to the mound by Chris Narveson (2-0, 4.01), who will face his former team for the sixth time this season. Narveson was drafted by the Cardinals in the second round of the 2000 draft, and made five appearances (including a start) for the 2006 World Series Champion team. He's posted a 2.45 ERA in his previous five outings against them, and a 3.38 ERA in four appearances since being moved into the rotation on September 13.

Here's the rest of the bullpen for today:

Todd Coffey pitched one inning (7 pitches) yesterday, and also pitched on Thursday and Friday.
Claudio Vargas pitched one inning (17 pitches) yesterday, and also pitched on Friday.
Trevor Hoffman pitched one inning (9 pitches) yesterday, and also pitched on Friday.
David Weathers pitched one inning (20 pitches) yesterday.
Chris Smith last pitched on Thursday.
John Axford last pitched on Thursday.
Seth McClung last pitched on Thursday.
Mitch Stetter last pitched on Thursday.

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FSN SUCKS

How do you make the last two games of the season non HD? Sure glad these games do not matter to us

Moving on ready look forward not backwards The 2009 season is over it never happen as far as I am concerned so lets boldly look forward to the 2010 season

by WSB Chris on Oct 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Blame Football

It sucks up all the bandwidth on weekends.

by statsllc on Oct 4, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

blah

worst day of the year

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

and to make it worse, I’m off to work and won’t be able to watch :(

Go Crew!

It is what it is.

by coolig on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to work at 3

so I’ll miss the last few minutes of Brewers baseball for 6 months. Oh, woe is me!

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

if McClung doesn't get a shot today

i will tweet angrily about it.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Oct 4, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Can you blame him?

Apparently, it’s the only way he can get anyone’s attention.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't blame him at all

maybe Mat Gamel should get a twitter too

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok folks, I'm a terrible procrastinator, so if you're interested, feel free to help me.

My award ballots for the IBWAA are due at the end of the day today, and I haven’t started work on them yet. So, if you’re so inclined, feel free to make a case for a nominee for any or all of the following awards:

AL Comeback Player of the Year
AL Cy Young (Greinke is #1, who’s #2?)
AL Exec of the Year
AL Manager of the Year
AL ROY
AL MVP (Mauer or Greinke?)

NL Comeback Player of the Year (Carpenter, right?)
NL Cy Young
NL Executive of the Year
NL Manager of the Year
NL MVP (Beyond Pujols #1 and Prince #2)
NL ROY

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

For the AL

Cy Young – King Felix should be #2 numbers are not that far away from Greinke’s
Manager of the Year – Ron Washington of the Rangers 87 wins is alot more that anyone would of thought at the start of the year.
MVP – Mauer hard to have pitcher as MVP and the Twins are not going to be anywhere close to the playoffs without him.

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with all three of those arguments

Except I’m leaning towards giving Jack Z Exec of the Year for making the Mariners much better than anyone expected, and Don Wakamatsu Manager of the Year for the same reason.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Z as well

And I’d think Gardenhire should be in with a good shout for manager of the year (at last). And obviously Branyan should be Comeback Player of the Year. Or Exec of the Year. Or ROY. Or anything…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

for the NL

Comeback player- Yes Carpenter
Cy Young – Carpenter,Wainwright,Lincecum are the top 3 but not sure that is the right order.
NL Executive John Mozeliak of the Cards – no team improved more with trades during the season
NL Manager – Jim Tracey for turning around the Rockies season
MVP Utley and Hanley Rameriz would be fine as 3rd picks would probably go with Rameriz due to a much tougher home park for hitting. Sandavol might worth a shout in part for having the best nickname in baseball.

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff had him 3rd, and I think that seems about right.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

second or third

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Scratching Craig Counsell off my ballot…

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Y'know, in all of this, there's this sense of overwhleming dread

Like I’m going to forget someone obvious, or vote a non-rookie for ROY and prove I’m no better than the voters we make fun of.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The pressure in on

Don’t screw up and embarrass us all!

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, make sure you do screw up

Just say that since the Brewers were so half-arsed the whole season you didn’t see why you should bother either…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Possible AL Rookies

Gordon Beckham, Nolan Reimold,Elvis Andrus…

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some pitchers in the mix

Jeff Niemann, Ricky Romero,Rick Porcello

in both leagues there is alot of candidates but nobody really stands out

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Current ballot has Brett Anderson, Jeff Niemann, Elvis Andrus

Anyone care to make a case for soemthing else?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip

Any thoughts on AL Comeback Player of the Year?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

BRANYAN

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

For first, second and third?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nelson Cruz?

I don’t know if he came back from anything though.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right now I've got Carl Pavano on my ballot

But I just realized his ERA in his “comeback” season is over 5.

“Coming back from what?” is a tough question, too. Carl Crawford, for example, had a down year (for him) last year and a much better year this year. Does that make him a candidate?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other temptations

Since C.C. Sabathia left the AL for a few months last summer and then returned, is he a candidate?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Adam Lind?

He’s been a monster this season, and had over 300 PA in the past two seasons.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about

Aaron Hill of the Jays- after missing 1/2 of last year with concussion,

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

and probably a better case than Lind just muddling through a couple of seasons, then breaking out this year.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take that

Penciling him it at #2 on the ballot, with Pavano #3.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say Lackey

But if coming back from injury is one of the prerequisites, Lackey’s in consideration every year.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Juan Rivera?

Or possibly Kevin Millwood? Washburn until he fell apart with Detroit.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rivera is an excellent choice

Thanks for bringing him to my attention. Now I’ve got Branyan, Rivera, Hill

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Comeback Player to me means someone who was either hurt or out of MLB. Switching leagues doesn’t count.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comeback Player of the Year

Does Derek Jeter coming back from a career of being overrated to possible being underrated this season count?

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Oct 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

So true…

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

At least you won’t look as stupid as Haudricourt did last season.

In my opinion, anyway.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tyler Barnes has been doing a great job posting lineups on Twitter

But he sat out the last week of the season, so i’m bumping him down to second place.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Make it someone like Pirates Director of Player Development Kyle Stark

Just look how many minor leaguers were promoted to Pittsburgh!

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Internet Baseball Writers Association of America?

Really, I have no clue what that acronym stands for

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the one

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man...

You guys of the IBWAA are going to draw down the wrath of The Rosenthal! All of you bloggers, who bring down the sport with your ‘sabrmetric group think’. For shame!

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? I win!

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, I'm onto NL Exec

I see one vote for Mozeliak – anyone else care to throw in some thoughts?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabean?

While the Edgar Renteria signing last off-season sucked, and there weren’t all that many big mid-season moves, he’s put together a very good team in SF.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My ballot right now has two NL West GMs

Dan O’Dowd from the Rockies, who managed to trade Matt Holliday and still build a winning team, and Kevin Towers, who I think did a great job in San Diego with the exceptionally limited tools available to him.

I’ve also got Mozeliak, for reasons listed above.

Care to make a case for Sabean over any of them?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ehh

I just think the ability to build the team back up, without Barry Bonds is exceptional. He signed Randy Johnson, who pitched well prior to injury, signed Affeldt, and generally put his team in a position to compete this year and going forward by developing talent like Wilson, Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez(a stretch, maybe), Sandoval.

Well, maybe their scouting director should win, then. Whomever he may be.

Also, my opinion is that you run the risk of throwing a bone to Towers because a lot of people don’t think he should have gotten the axe. Sure the team has performed better than expected with a AAAA team on a limited budget and tough ownership, but its not like he’s put the team in a position to contend within the next couple of years. In my opinion, anyway.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

But he was forced to slash a payroll from $80-90 million to $40-50 million and still managed to build a team that’s only going to finish a few games worse than the Brewers.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Noted, but I just don't see it as being something to put someone in the top 3 of that list

I just think Sabean and possibly the scouting or farm director should get more consideration. The Giants really fell from grace after 2004, and they built it back up through player development and shrewd signings, and it nearly paid off in a big way for them this season. Obviously, O’Dowd’s club had a lot to do with the Giants not making a playoff appearance this year, and thus my agreement that he should be in that list.

Then again, I don’t get a vote, I just have an opinion.

Like I said above, maybe it just smacks of pity to me. Or something. Towers as a choice just doesn’t sit right with me for some reason.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He certainly has done alot with limited resources

But how much was done this year? I can only think of them getting Nick Johnson.

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I didn’t even know he was their GM until a month ago.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had to Google the name to figure out who he was.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had to add "baseball" to the search.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kiko Calero has pitched extremely well for them as well

He was a fantastic signing this off-season. If not for Carpenter, you’d have to say Calero should be up there on the NL Comeback Player of the Year award.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're set on Pujols, Fielder for NL

Make sure Utley gets voted third. You could make a pretty strong case for Utley second. And considering he gets screwed over every year, it’d be nice to give him some help.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 4, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You like him more than Hanley Ramirez and Tim Lincecum?

Because they’re both in the same area on my ballot right now.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

By WAR:

Lincecum 8.3
Utley 7.6
Ramirez 7.5

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never get the MVP pitchers thing

I think they should either be in or out. Greinke is easily the AL MVP by value this year, but he’ll get voted like 8th because of the pitcher MVP thing. I would stick Utley 3rd, at lowest 5th. He’ll probably get like 10th again this year. It’s so rare that a white middle infielder gets underrated, but wow.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 4, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've moved him up to #4 on my ballot

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Prince just mentioned his dad in an interview. Been a long time since I’ve seen that.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I submit for your consideration

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah, action shots don't count, everyone looks dumb.

But, in terms of goofy looking brewers, CV1 has completely passed the field in the last 3 weeks

by Mykenk on Oct 4, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The stupidest Brewer pose would definitely be...

Sitting with a vacant expression while giving a “thumbs up”. But no Brewers pitcher has ever posed like that…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I don't know...

I’ve always thought this was disturbing…although he’s not a Brewer anymore…

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That will never get old

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, this guy looks like he's made of plastic

and that sort of sucks…

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew Braun has 200 hits

But how is it possible everyone seems to have neglected to mention he’s the only NL hitter with 200?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Just today.

I’ve been watching and reading a little bit about Brewer baseball lately, and I don’t think I’d heard it mentioned before yesterday.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does anybody know where the playoff

between Minnesota and Detroit would be played assuming they end the day tied? I’m curious because the Monday Night Football game tomorrow night is being played in the Metrodome

by Scooter82 on Oct 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Tuesday in MN.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suppan Ks Pujols?

Huh? There has to be some kind of mistake

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

It's the last day of the season

and it works like the mediaeval festival of misrule. You know, the village idiot gets to be king, the king spends the day in the stocks, the local pig swill handler is treated like a queen…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I just saw Duncan say

“Suppan’s going to his hat every pitch”

Then again, if Suppan is using pine tar and pitches this terribly, maybe he should just retire and go back to Soup’s Kitchen as a fry cook.

Dick Pole = Sacrificial Lamb!

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, he's not doing that well in his audition for Doug Melvin

You know he wants 3 ex-Cardinals in his lineup next season. And possibly Doug Davis again.

Doug Melvin’s World of Retreads!

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boom

There’s our CF for 2010.

Its all coming together.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, with Scott Podsednik a free agent

I could see The Mustache having a little reunion. Scott Po can play CF, Doug Davis will be signed, and perhaps he can pull off a trade for Dana Eveland again.

Awesome.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll bet Tomo Ohka will be available, too

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall

Ending the year strong.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

How does Gamel feel?

“OK kid, I know I ran the bus over you publicly, but you’re going to go in so that we can pad McGehee’s stats. You know, the rookie 3B that has talent”

Sigh.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, I just read the URL

I’m not so sure I want to read the rest of the article

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve been avoiding that story all week.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just read it

and I really wish I hadn’t

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kept wondering how the tuna fish can came in to play

And what sort of bulk tuna they eat there.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was kinda concerned about that

It was where they talked about trying to “dislodge” his head from a tuna can. That makes it sound that either it was a regular sized tuna can and the freezing had really shrunk Ted’s head or that they had an abnormally large sized can of tuna.

I really shouldn’t be thinking about this sort of thing…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found it to be hilarity

Maybe I’m sick. Sue me.

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball knowledge

Impressive! You know your stuff.

by statsllc on Oct 4, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd hope so

it is my one passion in life

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox making a comeback

now down 5-3 batting in the 8th
Twins are up 7-0

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone know where I can find a list of ROY eligible players?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

you could try

here for the NL rookies

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's too bad Strasburg didn't make one start

He would, like, absolutely have to win hands-down then.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gamel

Not ready to play and have success.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Well gang, its time for me to head off to work

See you next year for the next game thread

/tear, sob

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by. :-)

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least you ended on a good note

Prince bids you adieu.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll still be here all winter, Heather

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, I'll be here all winter too

I more said that to express my sadness at the season ending.

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check out his majesty!

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh No

Bernie Miklasz is going to cry into his Budweiser all night long after that.

“How classless is Prince Fielder, standing at home plate and admiring that HR in a pointless game.”

Sigh.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh what record?

I saw him waving and all that. But I don’t pay much attention to him. I actually think Pujols is a douche.

But that will certainly add gasoline to poor li’l Bernie’s fire.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

GTFO

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh

So its an important one.

When Pujols notches another record, the rest of the world should quake and bow their heads in respect. How awesome he is.

St. Louis is a crazy city.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fact that Pujols plays so far off the bag at 1st

Therefore making the Cards pitchers cover 1st more often is why I think that he has got that record.

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the TV announcers saying

“I could do without some of Prince’s dances. If the Brewers ever decide to stop the nonsense they could win some division titles.”

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Oct 4, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seemingly VORP and some of the other advanced statistics

are going to be taking “dancing” into account to further fine-tune their predictions. The more celebrations and dances that are deemed to be against the spirit of baseball the worse a player you are…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Classiness" is going to be a new category on all stat sites

And Bernie Miklasz is going to argue how objective a stat it is.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Cardinals catchers have been dancing around the baseball like crazy.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd expect

that the moment the Cards win the World Series (if it happens), rather than there being a huge big dogpile on top of whoever got the last out or the winning hit, they’d just doff their caps to each other and shake the oppositions hands before heading home for a quick glass of milk

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Handshakes and half smiles all around!

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah what's worse...

enjoying the game and looking like you’re having fun thus drawing criticisms from teams like Cardinals and their sports writers, or coming off as arrogant and condescending towards every other team?

At least you know LaRussa’s gonna get absolutely smashed. Hopefully he doesn’t drive, this time.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, low blow on LaRussa

Still, the Cards really rub me the wrong way.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

No No No

LaRussa’s fair game. Especially if Prince’s weight, and Braun’s eyes are fair game to everybody else. This is the internet, folks.

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way is that a low blow

If you put other people’s lives in danger with your colossal stupidity, you deserve everything you’ve got coming.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 4, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

What a souse that turd is!

Do you think they’ll have some O’doul’s in the clubhouse for him?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course.

They’re so ashamed of it, they went alcohol-free in the clubhouse last season.

1st class, them Cards

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah forgot about that

They’re the classic point out everyone else’s flaws and act sanctimonious so as to remove any scrutiny from own giant skeletons.

Its like I’m back in high school again with the ugly girls ripping on the fat girls. Priceless.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they could do that every day.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fixed

Yeah, they could should do that every day.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA and Rock, immediately after admitting they don't listen to the broadcasts

BA and Rock credit Cory on having a good season. He’s good, but how do they know?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Prince needs 3 more RBI to finish in the lead, right?

I predict a grand slam in the ninth

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Oct 4, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

By the by

I vote for having night time playoff game threads. It ain’t the Brewers, but its still baseball, and that’s why we’re here. Is it not?

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

At least

you can root for the underdog.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who are you wanting to win it then?

Rockies? Twins?

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanna see the Yanks absolutely smash fools. I love pure domination.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fine by me

It’s not like we’ll be overflowing with other things during that time.

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

eggsactly

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron

Nice catch. Didn’t look too comfortable getting up though.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Narverson

Any chance he makes the rotation at the start of next season? He has pitched quite well recently well, atleast it seems like it.

by Saltire on Oct 4, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see him compete for a spot

I think his upside is a little lower than some, but he’s at the very least shown he’s capable of something.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something (n).

An attribute possessed by very few current members of the Brewers rotation.

Dictionary says he deserves a shot.

by Yar Nivek on Oct 4, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll be there, I think. He's gonna be the cheap cop out/bailout guy.

I hate that shit.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felipe Lopez could probably use some rest too

His running isn’t looking so good again.

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to MLB.COM

Ryan Raburn blasted two hoem runs

by Yar Nivek on Oct 4, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you on a 2 hour TV delay?

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. I hate mlb.com.

I’m a ratard

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

A side note on Narveson

It’s possible he’s going to earn a shot next season based largely on his performance against the Cardinals, who have struggled against lefties this season. This is Narveson’s sixth appearance against them.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

1.53 ERA against the Cards

4.37 against the rest of baseball

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a swarm of bugs in StL, or was that a bad camera shot?

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

#20 for Braun!

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by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Braun steals 3rd again

20 steals now, 9 steals of third.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Not me

I think only Molitor stole third more times in a season among Brewers players. He did it 10 times in 1987.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stealing third nine times

Molitor in 1980, Listach in 1992, Hart in 2008, and Braun this year.

Podsednik stole third 10 times in 2004.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, Corey Patterson in to close out the season.

Like taking a crap in the corner of a house you’re moving out of.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

That helps me out

Next time I’m caught squatting in the corner instead of helping my girlfriend move our stuff to the van, I can just explain I’m “doing a Patterson” and I won’t feel half as embarrassed as previously…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gamel

Still not ready to play and have success.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

At least we have this:

From Lookout Landing’s Twitter:

I don’t want Felix to leave. I don’t want any of them to leave. Except Bill Hall.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Do we get salary relief if that happens?

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good question

What happens if a team pays the league minimum for Hall next year? Is that taken from what the Mariners are paying him, or from what the Brewers are paying him? I would imagine the Mariners are only paying a portion of this year’s salary, and the Brewers are still on the hook for all of next year’s. That would mean that the Brewers would catch a bit of a break.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clung up!

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember what he said about being set up to fail?

They let the water get plenty hot before throwing him into it here.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shrug

Trying to let Narveson work through it. McClung has to throw strikes either way.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

might have been a test to see how well he could perform

If he succeeds in such a high pressure situation, he might earn a spot on the squad next year.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Narveson's 92 pitches in relief*

Most since Allen Levrault threw 93 on August 24, 2001.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Without looking at the link

I’ll guess Manny had 87 pitches through 3 innings in that game?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

But what a talent he is!

psht

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

A damn fine outing

1 run in 6.1 of relief

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 BB, 8 Ks, only 4 hits

Impressive

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is Patterson in?

Not even a double switch? Hulk mad.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

End of the year

Cameron looked a little shaken after his diving catch earlier.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCalvy is reporting Cameron left the game with a mild concussion.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a surprise

I didn’t like that bounce Cam took when he made that last catch…though if it were his last play in the field as a Brewer, nice one to bow out on.

by hawing on Oct 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that McCalvy always tweets news before Haudricourt

And, mostly, everything else he reports is up before Tommy Boy. You think that’s because Tom’s old and can’t work the internets as well as Adam? Or perhaps Tommy just let’s McC post it first, and then reads and posts it himself.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

TV guys having fun with Fielder's average

A hit would put him at .2994924.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe he'll get two more ABs now.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else hoping the Cards make it a bit closer before we win

in the hope that Prince or someone has some crazy over-the-top-for-a-meaningless-game celebration to piss off the Cardinals?

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I always want the Brewers to do something to piss off the Cardinals

Except they could drink Gatorade the wrong way and it would piss those ladies off.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they should incorporate one of my other favorites, though

And do the fall down/bowling pin thing and then get up and sprint into the clubhouse.

Man Pujols might actually throw a shattered bat javelin style through Macha’s right eye if that happened.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd vote for a massive dogpile

followed by a lap of honour by all the Brewers players in front of a Cardinals crowd who would be showing their displeasure by making notes of inappropriate dancing in preparation for a sternly worded petition to MLB…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shapoopy?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

In orange prison jumpsuits?

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

With a crossdresser as the chick?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jody

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pat

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braden Looper's next excuse...

I hurt my rotator cuff after Ken Macha made me dance lead in the Thriller sequence

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad knee

He expects to have surgery on his knee in a week or so.

by hawing on Oct 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Looper

I’m not really sure he was meaning it as an excuse but its really hard to say.

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

It’s not like he’s been citing it all season, though it sounds like it’s been troubling him a while. Still, the news comes out just after his subpar 09 campaign ends, which gives it kind of a PR vibe.

by hawing on Oct 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, re-read the article

“I tried the best I can to get the ball down because that’s my whole game,” Looper said. “I don’t know [if the knee played a part in pitches staying up]. I know I haven’t been a consistent this year. That’s the thing that upsets me, I hope that [the knee] didn’t cause that.”

Linky

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't sound like an excuse to me.

I can see how you could interpret it otherwise, though.

by Mykenk on Oct 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

It sounds like just the kind of excuse a guy in his spot would make. Pointing out the injury to the media while acknowledging how poorly you pitched? That’s excuse city.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, seems to me like he was trying to not use it as an excuse

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

My feeling is you don't mention both the knee and how poorly you pitch in the same paragraph to a media person

Unless you want the connection to be made. Why not just go under the knife and let people speculate?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah ok

That’s all I care about. Not trying to change anyone’s POV, just want people to get where I’m coming from.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

I know. But hopefully Cain can be ready by 2011.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that happens

And we’re talking $8.6M is the Brewers’ lowest possible arb offer, then payroll would be to around $84.5M with two roster slots to fill.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

With Cameron being the best CF on the market

He will certainly be able to get at least that from anywhere else.

If he will take $5M to stay in Milwaukee, awesome. I doubt he will, though.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

7MM would be my top top offer

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, he wants 7.1

Congratulations on your new center fielder Corey Patterson!

by Zorakathura on Oct 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ankiel

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot about Wellemeyer too

Maybe we could land him in a trade, and then pick up Pineiro and Ankiel in free agency.

Nice.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh shit. I was assuming Ankiel was decent. I was wrong.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll let him pitch..

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm

not conveyed well via internets.

Then again, I’d assumed you had read me and TheJay’s exchange above.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why we have the (s) tag on "my" blog

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't even joke.

I’ll refuse to attend any games. I swear to god I will.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

But how much less is the question. Even $7M puts payroll at $82.75 with 2 open slots, so $83.55 if you plug two league min guys in.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be the case if he was pre-free agency

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, As I found out a week or two ago, we can offer him whatever we want in Arbitration

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh that's news to me

Then again, I didn’t want to look up and pore over the CBA to find out specifics, so I assumed it was the same as for pre-FA players.

Doesn’t really change all that much. So the Brewers offer $5, and Cameron asks for $8? Hope that doesn’t go to hearing…

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That salary reduction rule applies to players under reserve to the club

Declaring FA would make him no longer under reserve to the club

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, what's the alternative?

He doesn’t declare FA but doesn’t have a contract? That would be odd.

I would want Cameron back at about $5M due to the albatrosses Melvin’s already got on the team. There will be almost no flexibility in season, though.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could decide not to declare free agency

Then he would be like the other pre-free agents, at the mercy of the club.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which he would never do

I really think he can get a 2/20 deal somewhere, even like 8,12. Don’t know why he’d sell himself short here. Then again, I never like to overestimate The Mustache. That way I am almost never disappointed.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith

I wonder if he is thinking about that ground ball.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Plenty of empty seats

3,343,252. Total season but this entire series had plenty of room.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 4, 2009 4:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

100% unrelated, and I might be breaking a rule, but I don't care 'cause he's a friend of mine

How do you know Ryan Brown?

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi.

I’m Dikembe Meiztombo, and I’ll be your stalker this evening.

:)

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

where are you sitting today?

Was this going to be your club section day?

by hawing on Oct 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

CHECK OUT HIS MF'N MAJESTY!

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

hahahahahahaha....

Really wish I could hear the Cards announcers now…

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha @ Rock

BA: “What else can he do?”
Rock: “Maybe he’s gonna fly the plane home.”

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, just wait...

The MLB.com highlights will probably have the STL audio, so you should get your chance.

Heir to the throne. Just beautiful.

by hawing on Oct 4, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah

Chance to stand for a reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaal long time wasted by Prince.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank God that was Corey Patterson's last AB as a Brewe

hopefully……

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't see it mentioned in here

But in case anyone lost count Fielder will now finish the season (at the least) tied for the major league RBI lead. Meaningless but cool nonetheless!

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Oct 4, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think its meaningless

Well, about as meaningless as winning NL MVP on a third place club. Then again, only Pujols has done that.

That’s out of my ass. Since I don’t feel like looking up whether or not any other players have won it.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andre Dawson, 1987.

Then again, the cubs were in last, not third.

by Mykenk on Oct 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha I knew someone would look it up

thus me = not

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow you really just knew that?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF, Trevor?

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like he's overthrowing.

Not sure how he could be worked up about this appearance, but his release point was all over the place in that last at bat.

Maybe he’s tired after 3 straight appearances.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the sticking point last season if I recall correctly

HR/FB and FB% through the roof, but was very bad on 3rd straight day. Then again, someone will probably look it up for me.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blown

Sigh. My Sackmann quote may have cursed him.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I came so very close to buying a Trevor jersey yesterday.

It was marked down about 20 bucks. I’m assuming he’s going to be brought back next year. In the end, I realized that it was one of the cheap replica ones (I literally felt the letters and numbers and said, “No.”

I’ve never bought a baseball jersey before; I think I’d go with the authentic one. I want to at least have some stiching.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a nice Authentic Replica Braun Jersey

Caps on purpose.

I like it. And…hopefully…he’ll have Brewers across his chest til 2015.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't need to be authentic to have stitched on lettering

I miss the 90s when you could get a replica with stitching for $50

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

why must you raise my blood pressure?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Oct 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it pisses me off all the time

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You may deserve a punch in the crotch for that one

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Oct 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been there, done that. 2nd nature to watch my nuts

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry Dikembe

As any Cubs fan will tell you, that picture was taken from the wrong angle, there was a really wide zone that was consistent for both teams and GAMEDAY LIES GODDAMMIT

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Oct 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better?

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Safe?

Hard to tell live.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Anyone want to recap the last one?

I’ve written two and had to flush them now.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd give it a shot, but I've only been watching half heartedly

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoffman keeps the game going

So that Prince can hit another HR and end up 1st in HR and RBI (might need to go a few innings for him to take over the lead in AVG though)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the throw beat him

Which would, of course, make this BS a bunch of BS

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

TLR secretly wishes that Lugo would have dogged it down to first.

Extra innings in a meaningless game can’t really mean anything positive for the Cards.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

The people who are here in this thread, right now..

..are the only one’s who can celebrate the first preseason thread next year. We’re the one’s who can truly say we missed these threads.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

David Freese behind the plate

He hasn’t played there as a pro. Kind of makes Molina’s curtain call look foolish.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 4, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm out of practice, so I'm a few minutes late

but please join me in the extra inning thread.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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