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In response to a tweet today stating that McClung is "making it sound like you're not coming back," the righty had this to say:

@stoutguy04 just got a feeling. I would love too it's up to macha and crew.

over 2 years ago Newavatar_tiny Kyle Lobner 33 comments 0 recs  | 

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I vote we start a petition

Just in case

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.
-Dikembe Meiztombo

by kirbir on Oct 5, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm in

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

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Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 5, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a surprise

Talked to him at the ballpark on Saturday, he said he isn’t optimistic and frustrated with management. He said he wants to stay but “Macha hates me” is pretty much what he said.

Will they make moves on the bullpen arms like that with out a pitching coach?

by SgtClueLs on Oct 5, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty much what he said...

not what he said. That shouldn’t be a specific quote. Right?

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did say Macha seems to hate him

But went said a few more things, which I don’t remember

by SgtClueLs on Oct 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

but then said*

Sorry been up since 3 flying home then working.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 5, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who much say does the manager have in who the GM signs?

If McClung were Milton Bradley, that might be different. But who doesn’t like Seth McClung? I can’t imagine Macha telling DM “Don’t bring back this perfectly good, relatively cheap bullpen arm because I just don’t like him.”

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I can’t really see any reason why anyone would dislike Seth anyways. Maybe Macha is hypoglycemic and just comes off as a jerk when he doesn’t get enough sugar.

I think it's the grunt that does it for me...

by kirbir on Oct 5, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

But why would a GM sign a player if he knows the manager doesn’t trust em? Look at Gamel, he doesn’t trust him and will let people like Bourgeois and Patterson PH.

by SgtClueLs on Oct 5, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the manager has a decent say in who makes it out of Spring Training.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 5, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if McAwesome demonstrates that he clearly belongs on the team,

Couldn’t Melvin and Attanasio tell Macha he’s crazy for wanting to ditch Seth?

I think it's the grunt that does it for me...

by kirbir on Oct 5, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that if McClung plays well in Spring Training, Macha will advocate him making the club.

I’ve never met Seth, but he seems like a great guy. Personally, I think he deserves to make the team, but I hope he’s judged on his performance, not how many times he twitters with the fans.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 5, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's an answer here

It’s not one I like. This isn’t the first manager he’s had semi-epic conflicts with and…how do I put this without both offending McClung and starting an argument…he’s played for managers who probably have an idea of what the ideal ballplayer is like and he’s not what they envision. I am not saying that it’s his fault at all. I’ve just read too many accounts of personality conflicts where the player in question is not the Standard Issue Jock, with all the stereotypes that contains, and it’s probably the culture of sports that needs to change.

if that makes any sense whatsoever.

by morineko on Oct 5, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a little worried he's hurting himself with this level of directness on twitter.

I doubt it’s going unnoticed. I like the guy, but his numbers suggest that bringing him back is a close call.

But I’m sure he’ll land somewhere if it’s not here.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 5, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

There’s a reason I don’t have a personal blog under my real name (which is why I’m not on Facebook either) and the one I have is with one of those blog hosts that lets you lock posts to a subscriber list. When I get emo about my place of employment, nobody I work with can see it.

by morineko on Oct 6, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

That probably answers the question.

If he doesn’t end up staying, I’ll follow him and hope he does well regardless of where he lands.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 5, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

shrug

career era of 5.5 and BB./9 of 5.3
09 era of 5 and BB.9 of 5.7
$2 million salary

maybe that’s why he’s not optimistic about coming back.

by infield fly on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Spot on

I like some people that I work with a lot, but they’re shitty employees.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 5, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

"My advice to you: I know you think those guys are your friends.

You wanna be a true friend to them? Be honest, and unmerciful."

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A Lester Bangs quote?

I applaud you.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes – but if you pull out his numbers as a starter it does get better – 3.95 ERA and his WHIP goes down to 1.5 ( yes I know that is not good but better than with his starts)

Yes he did have an issue with the walks this year. He had a down year this year like most of the Brewers staff. I still want to see him back to see if he can return to 2007/2008 form.

He made 1.6M this year. If he comes back for 1.5-1.7M I would bring him back. I just don’t see any better internal options.

by Saberilliterate on Oct 6, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why ditch him?

cheap arm that can pitch anywhere you want him to. Good attitude and does well with the fans. Maybe try using him as a setup man next year.

by Mr. McGehee on Oct 6, 2009 7:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

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