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Some things to read while staking your claim.

If the Brewers keep up this pace, they'll have all of their offseason work done by Thanksgiving: One day into the offseason, the Brewers have one problem solved, as Trevor Hoffman signed a one year deal worth $8 million with a team option for 2011 (FanShot). Tom H. is reporting that both the option year and potential buyout contain escalators tied to games finished in 2010.

Here's some reaction around the web:
  • Evan Brunell of The Hardball Times thinks it was a logical move.
  • Jorge Says No! thinks the Brewers overspent and could have better used the money on other priorities.
  • Rob Neyer notes that Hoffman's BABIP has been very low over the course of his career, but that's also true of many other premier closers.
  • Dave Allen of FanGraphs notes that Hoffman has a lot of "rise" on his fastball, which leads to more infield flies and a lower BABIP.
While Trevor Hoffman was signing his new deal, the list of Brewers awaiting surgery continued to grow. On top of Casey McGehee (knee), Craig Counsell (knee) and Braden Looper (knee), it was announced yesterday that Manny Parra will have arthroscopic surgery to "clean up" the AC joint and "remove some friction" in his shoulder (FanShot). The issue didn't prevent Parra from making his final starts of the 2009 season, but that doesn't keep me from wondering if it should have.

Meanwhile, there was good news on the medical front for Corey Hart, who met with a hand specialist and received confirmation that his injured fingers were sprained, not fractured. He should be fine in a month's time.

BBWAA ballots for postseason awards are due in on the final day of the regular season (which, as it turns out, is now today), but it will still be several weeks before we find out where Prince Fielder stands in the race for NL MVP. Walkoff Walk compared Fielder's 2009 season to some of the best years at the plate in Brewer history, and ranked him third on their NL MVP ballot. Meanwhile, Quevedo at the Buffet makes a passionate case against trading Fielder this offseason.

Speaking of awards, Yovani Gallardo finished second in the balloting for NL Comeback Player of the Year, far behind Chris Carpenter.

With Trevor Hoffman back in the fold, the Brewers have one less opportunity to get compensation picks for free agents this offseason, but they still could cash in: The latest Elias rankings are out, and they have Felipe Lopez as a Type A free agent, along with Jason Kendall, Mike Cameron, Braden Looper and David Weathers as Type Bs. Kendall did not receive any bonus points for leading the majors in beer plunks.

MLB Trade Rumors also has a list of players who could be non-tendered this offseason, and Dave Bush, Seth McClung and Jody Gerut are on the list. The three of them would likely command around $8 million in arbitration for next season.

Seth McClung doesn't sound very optimistic about the possibility of coming back in 2010, but BCB has started a Facebook petition in an effort to convince the Brewers to bring him back. As of this morning, it had already climbed over 20 members. Let's push that number a little higher today.

Attendance at Miller Park was down about 1% this season, but that's better news than you'd think: According to the chart at that link, 19 major league teams saw a larger decline in attendance this season, with eleven teams losing more than 10% and four teams losing over 20%.

Alcides Escobar can probably be penciled in as the Opening Day starter at short for the 2010 Brewers, but does he have a brighter future than Washington's Ian Desmond? FakeTeams has the argument for both sides, and a poll.

In the minors:
  • BaseballHQ has scouting reports for the Arizona Fall League, and ranks Mark Rogers and Rob Wooten as the second and third best pitchers on the Peoria Javelinas. AFL play opens one week from today.
  • Jonathan Mayo is working on a formula to determine the minor league pitcher of the year, and Evan Anundsen checked in at #8 on his list. He posted a 2.69 ERA and struck out 118 in 130.1 innings in Brevard County this season.
As I just mentioned, the AFL starts soon with other winter leagues soon to follow, but if those aren't enough for you the Wisconsin Sports Tap has an offseason survival guide. Hopefully we'll start the countdown to spring training soon, but the report date for pitchers and catchers has yet to be determined.

Need a mental warmup this morning? It took me 30 seconds to name the seven ways a batter can safely reach first base. I got the hard ones first and spent 20 seconds with a brain cramp before remembering an obvious one.

Is anyone out there a member of SABR? After reading Wezen-ball's pitch this morning (and noting SABR's discounted membership for anyone under 30) I decided to give it a shot for a year.

How much does defense impact a mediocre pitcher? Fungoes uses Jeff Suppan as a teaching tool to answer that question. If you're making a list of proper uses for Suppan, "teaching tool" and "batting practice" should both appear above "starting pitcher."

And, from one bad contract to another: Dugout Central chronicles the life and times of Bill Hall.

Happy birthday today to Jerry Stephenson, who appeared in two games for the Seattle Pilots and turns 66, and Valerio de los Santos, who appeared in 183 games as a Brewer and turns 37.

Drink up.

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I truly get the Albert will be the walk away winner for the MVP. Numbers are better than anyone else in baseball. Defense is pretty good. All the girls love the Michael Jordan tongue thing when he bats too (and Pujols determined that it isn’t disrespecting the game by sticking out his tongue at the pitcher). The Cards would not have won the division without him.

But Chase Utley for 2nd place? Really? That is nothing more than East Coast media bias and the belief that the best players only play on the east coast

by Saberilliterate on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Yup.

I love hanging out on one of the Atlantic beaches in St. Louis.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 6, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I go back and forth on this

Yes, Fielder had a stellar year, but historically, the BBWAA doesnt like to give big votes to players on losing teams. The last time a player from a losing team finished higher than 3rd in the voting (in the NL) was Derrek’s Lee’s big season a few years ago. And before that it was one of Dante Bichettes big Rockie years.

I think Fielder had the 2nd most productive offensive season this year in the NL, but when you factor in place in the standings, winning record, etc. you can make the argument for him maybe being 4th in the voting behind Hanley Ramirez and Ryan Howard.

I think Utley is in the top 5, but not worthy of 2nd.

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

so it should be called the

Most Valuable Player Who Played On A Winning/Playoff Team Award all other need not apply?

Albert should win it and Prince should come in Second They both had monster years but Albert’s year was just a bit better than Princes

Moving on ready look forward not backwards The 2009 season is over it never happen as far as I am concerned so lets boldly look forward to the 2010 season

by WSB Chris on Oct 6, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying that

But that is historicaly how the voting goes. And the reasoning behind that voting tends to be that the MVP comes from a team that is playoff bound or close to it.

I tend to agree with that philosophy, because if you take Fielder away from the Brewers, they are still missing the playoffs, but if you take Pujols away from the Cards they arent playoff bound, same goes for Howard with the Phils and the Fish have no chance at all of finishing where they did (above .500 and a few games out of the WC and Division with less than a week to go) without Hanley Ramirez.

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with it to an extent

Where are the Cardinals without Pujols? No longer in the playoffs.

Where are the Brewers without Prince? Still a losing team.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 6, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that anyone is arguing Prince as the MVP so much as Utley or anyone else no named Albert finishing higher than Prince. The Phillies still make the playoffs if you substitute a replacement level 2nd baseman with Utley or a Replacement level 1st baseman with Howard (but not both).

Maybe an argument could be made toward Hanley Ramirez but I would still have him in third over Prince.

by Saberilliterate on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I refused to consider "how the voting usually goes" when constructing my ballot.

Which is why there are five pitchers between my two MVP ballots.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I usually dont put pitchers on mne

because they have the Cy Young and the whole “every 5 day” argument, which I have recently learned is not very valid when considering batters faced vs times at bat….

Regardless, my ballot goes Pujols, Ramirez, Howard, Fielder, Utley, Sandoval, D Lee, Votto, Tulowitzki, Braun

CY Young Lincecum, Wainwright, Carpenter, Vazquez, Haren

ROY – McCutcheon, Wells, Hanson

AL Mauer, Greinke, Niemann

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHY DO YOU HAVE HOWARD AHEAD OF UTLEY?

.279/.360/.571
.292/.397/.508

Pretty much a draw, and.. Howard plays a pretty bad first base, Utley plays an extremely good second base.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 6, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not just looking at WAR

Although I do look at it, I look at about 18 different stats.

In addition to the counting type stats where Howard has the lead (HR, RBI, OPS, slg) he also has higher WPA, WPA+, and is the number one clutch guy in the game.

Utley of course has WAR which includes defense, as well as being a top 10 defender in the league.

In the end Howard is ranked top 10 NL in 9 of the stats I look at, Utley 6, add in the importance I place on certain stats that Howard has the edge, and Howard comes out on top, slightly. I realize that WAR is supposed to be the be all end all, but that would then place a guy like Fielder as low as 5th in “MVP”, are you content with that?

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

…and is the number one clutch guy in the game.

For someone who looks at so many numbers, why are you bringing up ‘clutch’??

by Saberilliterate on Oct 6, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

For that matter

Why bring up RBIs?

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Oct 6, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're misunderstanding

He’s referring to the clutch stat. Which is how well a player performs in high leverage situations.

You’ll need to sort by clutch, but Howard leads all of baseball with a 2.75 rating.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

And this is basically just quoting WAR again, but

2nd baseman with a .402 wOBA>1st baseman with a .393 wOBA

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by Lefti on Oct 6, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Did I mention the stat WAR?

I didn’t even look it up. I know that Utley is a lot more valuable than Howard. Their batting lines are pretty close— slight edge to Utley based on the OBP, probably. And knowing what I know about the value of players, I know that two players that have extremely similar batting lines— but one is far superior on defense— I will take the defender every time.

I honestly don’t understand your stance on player evaluation. Once you use wOBA, you don’t need to look at any other hitting stat. At all. Because all wOBA is.. is taking the average run of each batting event and setting it over the negative value of an out in the same situation to produce an amount of runs above average produced. Howard’s homers are accounted for in wOBA individually. I can understand your WPA argument. But looking at homers, RsBI, OPS, and SLG and weighing them equally to an all-inclusive stat is incredibly confusing. You are weighing the following things equally: a component of OPS, OPS, an all-inclusive hitting stat that is much more accurate than OPS (wOBA), and an all inclusive-player stat that includes wOBA.

Utley probably was more valuable than Fielder this year. I would put him 3rd on an MVP ballot, probably. I think pitchers should either be in or out— not somewhere in between— so just throw out the pitchers and yeah I’d stick Fielder third.

I don’t think you need to bring up fangraphs leaderboards and sort by WAR to determine the MVP. But I really don’t see an argument for Howard over Utley, again. Two straight years Utley has finished out of the top 10 with Howard way up on top.

I hate when people think WAR is just another stat. It’s actually like 2 stats: wOBA, the best hitting stat, UZR, the best defense stat, plus adjustments for playing time and replacement level.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 6, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic

My favorite case of how voting went in the past over now was some talking head a couple years back discussing college football and how some undefeated team couldn’t be ranked highly not because of who they played, not because other teams were better, but because that program had never been ranked that high in previous years.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 6, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely disagree

Utley is incredibly underrated. He’s finished outside of the top ten the past two years while deserving to at least be in the top 3. I don’t really care about the team record thing, but Utley and Fielder were almost exactly as valuable as each other this season. Fielder might have a slight edge, but then maybe you can use the winning team argument as a bonus for Utley. He’s one of the best defensive second basemen in the game and he’s nearly as productive a hitter as Fielder. Defense and position matter.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 6, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, if you go by WAR

And I’m remembering this from looking it up yesterday, so maybe I’m off, but I’m about 90% sure that Utley accumulated more WAR than Fielder this year; he was over 7 and Prince was 6.6.

Granted, some people have suggested that Utley’s regularly absurdly high UZR numbers at 2nd might be affected by having Howard play such a crappy 1st base next to him, but still

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by Lefti on Oct 6, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

was it just me...

or was there not a lot of talk about La Russa intentionally walking Prince in what was an important AB for him? i think that was total BS that should have been national baseball news. definitely worth a blog post by the MJS guys; not that i expected them to do so.

for some reason it reminds me of Ted Williams going out and getting hits on the last day of the season; and how mad i was at Jose Hernandez for sitting the last days of the season so he wouldn’t break the strikeout record.

La Russa should be ashamed of himself. he should have at least pitched around him.

by Jamie in LA on Oct 6, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

i understand the desire for prince to get a shot at .300

But, in game, the move to walk him also makes sense.

I might have been upset if prince was chasing a more significant milestone, like a home run record or something, but I don’t see the difference between .29924 and .300 to be significant enough to justify a shift in game strategy.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

....

It was an AB that could have given him sole posession of the RBI.

and, he finished ONE HRbehind Albert. If he knocks one out he gets a share of the HR record.

if you have any integrity you pitch to him.

the game means NOTHING to La Russa. they have their bags packed to fly to LA for the Playoffs. Give Prince an honest chance.

by Jamie in LA on Oct 6, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

true

however, if it was at miller park and i was at the game and it was reversed, there is no way i want to see albert tie prince for home runs.

by DoubleJ235 on Oct 6, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It made sense in the context of the game...

… so I’m not too mad about it. But the suggestion (made elsewhere) that TLR hadn’t even thought about denying Fielder a last shot at a couple of statistical goals is complete crap. I don’t think it was his primary motivator, but don’t tell me he didn’t know what he was doing.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont forget

That Ryan Howard actually was given the day off on Sunday too.

So even if Prince is pitched to, just for the sake of reaching .300 or getting the RBI crown, how much is the latter really worth, if the guy you tie with, is given the day off (on a day the ball was flying out of the park, no less)?

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

But if you question “why walk Fielder there” cant you also question “what if Howard had played all 162 games”?

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's apples and oranges.

Howard playing or not playing is within his (and his manager’s) control. Prince has no control when he’s being intentionally walked.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

exactly.

i imagine if Howard really wanted to play he would have been more than welcome to be in the lineup. i bet he is more focused on winning a championship; and figured Prince wouldn’t have 3RBI.

i guess Howard hasn’t played a lot of fantasy baseball.

nor does he need to.

ha.

by Jamie in LA on Oct 6, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're going to do that

Why look at a counting stat in the first place?

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 6, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howard probably came up with more runners on base.....

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 6, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shift in game strategy?

He had a guy in there catching whose hands were shaking as he put down the signs. Game strategy goes out the window when you allow Molina to receive an ovation just for being announced. I’m just glad the Cards had to watch the untucking three days in a row.

by Junked on Oct 6, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't sell him short

It was actually .29949

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 6, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Got a better quiz for you

See how many geographical names of a pro team you can get in 7 mins.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Booger/ProTeamGNames

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Oct 6, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

50.

I’m not good at the NHL. I didn’t even realize the Oilers still existed.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

50

Missed one that had 4 teams in it. Yikes.

by Supertramp on Oct 6, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

No spoliers please

I hasven’t taken it yet.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you purple now?

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you ever seen Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?

Well, Rubie found the secret location, and well, now he’s purple.

by Yar Nivek on Oct 6, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball over.

Blue Rubie. (Does it look purple?)

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Either or

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

54

All five I missed were one team locations – 2 NBA, 2 NHL and one NFL.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

40

My bad/slow spelling skills hurt me

Moving on ready look forward not backwards The 2009 season is over it never happen as far as I am concerned so lets boldly look forward to the 2010 season

by WSB Chris on Oct 6, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

46

Not bad for someone who hasn’t followed a non-baseball sport since about 1991.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Oct 6, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

45

Not bad for someone with poor typing and never followed any other sport besides baseball

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Oct 6, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

46

sigh.

Missed a couple 2 team cities.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

was the easy one you couldn't think of the fielder's choice?

i know it was for me. i sat staring at that counter for a full minute before it hit me.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Oct 6, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

McClung group needs bigger. I'm totally serious about this.

We need thousands. And we need to somehow get the attention of Brewers brass when that is accomplished. This can work.

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

i'd join

but i refuse to get on facebook. and yes, i do have an abacus.

by Capt Science on Oct 6, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop being silly

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have an abacus

but I do have a slide rule.

And I’m on Facebook, so what’s your excuse?

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Oct 6, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't use facebook

I prefer to let my friends know in person if something they does bothers me, not via status update.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

something they do*

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not everybody does that, Chaz

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you going to argue that the majority of users DON'T do such things?

Because, I’d say that’s wrong. Its like texting, and emailing. Why call someone, or go to see them in person if you can just send a ‘hw r u??’ text or an email?

“social networking” and “internet” should never be in the same sentence, in my opinion.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, just speaking for myself

I’d rather put in the visit or phone call to someone. I’m a very straightforward person. If I don’t like you or something you say/said/believe in, I’ll tell you. (not you personally, just people in general) My cousin’s buddy has a strong dislike for me because I say what I think. I think he’s a bitch for that, and I intend on telling him that, the next time I see him.

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God I didn't have to log onto your facebook page to learn...

… that you think your cousin’s buddy is a bitch and you’re going to tell him that the next time you see him and junk.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't post that kind of shit

Its nonsensical. And you’re being ignorant just for the sake of being an antagonist. Don’t be a dick.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm the same way

I won’t talk to a salesman if he calls me, but if he comes in to speak with me, I’m all ears.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

How would you know how many users do it if you're not on Facebook?

Personally, I’m on Facebook so that I know what my friends that don’t live near me any more are up to.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Oct 6, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

^THIS^

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife uses facebook?

As do a huge portion of my employees.

I simply don’t care for it. I’ve heard of a lot of idiocy, and seen some of it when my wife shows me things from time to time. More power to you if you’re using it to keep in contact with long lost friends, not as a surrogate for a social life or personal contact.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
As do a huge portion of my employees.

There’s no denying that a LOT of people are morons.

It really can be a useful tool, if employed properly.

I like to use it to keep up with distant friends, tv & radio personalities, garnering an internet influence to bring back relief pitchers, etc…

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

There’s no denying that a LOT of people are morons.

Which is really my main point. I spend enough time on this and other sports sites, and Twitter is enough for me as far as ‘following’ people or things or whatever. Some people like cucumbers better pickled.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this whole conversation needs to be over

Some people like FB and some don’t. If you don’t and don’t feel like joining for whatever reason, then you won’t be a part of the group. The conversation really didn’t need to go beyond that.

I think it's the grunt that does it for me...

by kirbir on Oct 6, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure it did. We was just having fun.

No need to step in and sully that up. Nobody was being sour or argumentative. Be easy, homegirl. Where else can Charlie and I do anything like this? I like the the cat, and I hope its mutual.

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 7, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer my cucumbers pickled

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 7, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

I think Joseph Conrad is rolling in his grave right now. Chaz? Yikes.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Type B FAs + draft picks

Who here would seriously want to offer Arbitration to Kendall? Anyone? I think we’re better off forgoing any possible compensation pick, at least in his case.

by Brew Angel on Oct 6, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

The ROM chant worked.

by drezdn on Oct 6, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great – now do a ROY chant so that he is more valuable on the trade market

by Saberilliterate on Oct 6, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

and yes

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 6, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

I was kind of hoping Verlander wound up pitching and getting the win for #20. He pitched Sunday so he could probably go an inning.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Oct 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh

Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 6, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was an epic game.

Instant classic I say.

Can we use the frosty mugs are game threads for the post season?

by SgtClueLs on Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I dropped the ball on this one

There probably could have been an Open Thread tonight, and there probably will be for at least some of the upcoming games. But, in the event there’s not, you can always feel free to treat the Mug as one. :-)

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed – instant classic and that game represented the season for those two teams

by Saberilliterate on Oct 7, 2009 5:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

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