Tuesday's Frosty Mug - Straight out of the Tap
by Lange on Nov 10, 2009 9:00 AM CST
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Something to read while considering skin treatments.
Another day, another fill-in. Who am I you ask? Why Mark Lange of course, but that's probably not enough. First off, I am an unemployed sports reporter (no joke, I was even on television for a while; it may have been Duluth, MN, but still, it was legit). Second, and more importantly, I am the main contributor on Wisconsin Sports Tap. We're admittedly Brewer-centric, but we do our best to cover the Badgers, Packers and to a far lesser extent, the Bucks.
In fact, wouldn't it be convenient if we happened to have two fantastic Crew stories up right now? Well we do! If you followed us on Twitter you'd already know that though (@WI_SportsTap, or me personally: @MillerParkNorth). But in the meantime, here's what we have going:
My fellow founding contributor looks at the Brewers chances of bringing John Lackey into the fold for 2010.
And I continue ranking the Crew's positional prospects, today the third basemen.
Here are Five Predictions for the Brewers in this Hot Stove League.
5. Have a Catch(er)? Angel Salome isn't ready for the major leagues and the team is down on him anyways. So if the team were to have a prospect make the jump, it would have to be Jon Lucroy. And why not? The conservative approach the team has taken with prospects has always been a point of frustration with Brewer Nation, a prospect hasn't been rushed to the big leagues since Ryan Braun. If the team likes Lucroy as much as they seem to, bypassing Triple-A might not be a bad idea. If that's the case bringing back Mike Rivera would make the most sense, he's accustomed to a backup role and knows the team's returning pitchers well. Also this would save a good chunk of money by not bringing back Jason Kendall. But who am I kidding, Kendall and his .240 average will be back.
4. Jarrod's not coming. After the disaster of a contract that GM Doug Melvin gave to Jeff Suppan, don't expect him to pony up four more years for a lefty who will be 35 before the end of next season. Not to mention the fact that Washburn struggled and was hurt after being traded to Detroit last year. In the first three years of his contract with the Mariners he had ERAs of 4.67, 4.32 and 4.69. Why would you go after him when a comparable pitcher might be had for less money and less years? Who is that pitcher? I'm glad you asked...
3. Welcome back Double-D! That's right, Doug Davis. If you're going to sign a 34 year old left-hander why not bring in a guy you have a previous relationship with, is open to a return, and likely can be had for less years and less money (word is Davis is looking for a three-year deal and may be willing to go to a two-year offer). Davis may walk more batters than Washburn, but he's otherwise a similar pitcher. Also he had the misfortune to play home games in Chase Field, a notorious hitters park while Washburn played in the cavernous Safeco Field where he struggled for three of four years.
2. Mat Gamel will Stay. I'm sure the team would love to add a young arm, and Gamel might bring that. But with a wave of young, talented pitchers approaching Double-A and Triple-A Milwaukee would be wise to keep Gamel in house. He is the type of high-ceiling prospect the team will need in the event that Prince Fielder can't be signed long term. Plus the struggle of prospect Taylor Green in Double-A and the Arizona Fall League make you question his big league ability. Until you know for sure what Casey McGehee brings to the table trading Gamel would be a mistake.
1. John Lackey will be a Brewer in 2010. Or he might not, it's really hard to say. If middle market teams are doing most of the bidding than the Brewers will have a very good chance of signing Lackey. If teams like the Yankees, Red Sox or Phillies decide to get involved his cost will be too much for Milwaukee to bring him to the team. With big money off the books this year and next, the team will make a very competitive offer.
I'm generally not one to deliver a load of links to my readers, but here's what I'm reading.
Miller Park Drunk and Al's Ramblings had a nice back and forth about the Carlos Gomez acquisition. Anybody else remember when Gomez was the selling point in the Twins trade of Johan Santana?
The Free Agent Rankings are out, and the Brewers have five Type B players, Bernie's Crew has a good Breakdown.
Craig Counsell and David Weathers have officially filed for free agency.
Around the Central, Todd Wellemeyer, Kevin Gregg and Jose Valverde have all filed as well.
And in the downer category, Jon Heyman thinks the Yanks will be interested in John Lackey.
In fact SI.com has a good look at this offseason and the riskiest free agents in it. Rich Harden riskier than Ben Sheets? At least Harden pitched last year.
One more thing, since J.J. Hardy has finally been traded this is a good time to re-hash this old gem.
Drink up, it's all local brews on the Tap.
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Any relation to the Bob Uecker of the NHL?
That said, I really doubt John Lackey is in the fold. We’ll probably be rumored, but to spend the money he’ll be looking for is a disservice to the fact we need more than one guy. I’d love to have Lackey for the post season, but that would need him to be healthy for a full season with another starter to spot him. It’s slim pickings for starters, and I think that should only make the John Lackey’s price elevate that much more.
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 Minutes for Excessive Stanley Cup Raising.
by Lavender on Nov 10, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If signing Lackey means we cant afford Davis or Washburn or Looper
I would be ok with that
It is what it is.
by coolig on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What does it take?
To sign Lackey? Probably more than he is worth.
I would guess that if you gave him a 5 year deal, he only surpasses 3 WAR once, twice if he really turns it on. That having been said, I wouldnt offer him anything more than what Suppan has been paid as a Brewer. Id say 5 years between $50 and $57 million. He can get more by the loser of the Aroldis Chapman sweepstakes over paying upwards of $60 million. If they can get him for Suppan money, Id say go for it, but if not, its too expensive, and the return may not even be all that great.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Passing 3 WAR once?
Because 5 of the last 6 seasons, Lackey has had over 3.5 WAR.
by NoahJ on Nov 10, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did say maybe twice
But hes entering prime decline years. He missed projections for him by about 10% last year, factor that going forward 5 more years, and a move to a more hitter friendly park…
A 3 WAR pitcher would be a very nice thing on this Brewer team, but I wouldnt count on a huge impact from Lackey, no matter who signs him past the 2nd year of the contract.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We just can't have nice things
I just weep at the thought of a rotation with Gallardo, Parra, Looper, Suppan, Doug Davis or something similar, because we know the lineup the Brewers trot out each night will be 6 position players and 3 pitchers. That said, I don’t see how any GM in Melvin’s place could do any better given the resources available.
This really is how small market teams work, isn’t it? The best they can hope for is every 5 years they can trot out a lineup that has a chance to make the postseason, because they managed to string together 2 or 3 good draft years. The other 4 years they try to stay relevant enough limit fanbase erosion.
So should I be trying to get excited about an 82-win 2010 season rather than lamenting the small chance of a 90-win season?
by ecocd on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it can be done
But it all comes down to scouting. The Rays, Twins and Marlins are great examples of this. To an extent I think the Rockies are in this class as well. Heck, the Red Sox have one of the best farm systems in the game, they could win just with what their farm system produces and not have to sign any FA’s.
In addition, a commitment has to be made to player development. The reason the Brewers may never capitalize on their great run of prospects turning into championships, is that they have never put a big focus on pitching or defense in the draft. After Fielder is gone, I think there could be a very long drought of success given that outside of Gallardo, there isnt an ace quality pitcher in the entire system.
I dont think being able to go after high value Free Agents is the way to win, especially for a mid to small market team. It has been proved that Free Agent acquisitions are only about 20-30% effective in turning a team around.
I wouldnt be too disappointed when the Brewers dont sign Lackey, but if they recirculate the money they planned to use on him or other high priced guys into the farm system and player development, it will be well worth the wait.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah yeah
For a while, I had forgotten that you don’t like the Brewers.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of whether you think I like or dislike the team
What makes the Marlins, Rays, Twins and Rockies more successful than the Brewers? None of them signs big free agents, they all have an almost continual revolving door going through the major league squad, and they all have a very nice pool of pretty decent pitchers and nice defensive players. Not only that, they trade their big time players before they hit free agency, in order to restock the farm system. The Brewers need to start taking that approach.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Twins have been complacent with being an 'also-ran' for the last decade.
I’d like to think that the Brewers aren’t happy with that. They want to win a world series. So if that means being bad for 5 years in order to be really really good for 2 years, I’m more than OK with that. The difference between us and the other teams you listed is that we can fill our stadium every game. Finishing 7th in attendance is proof that we have the ability to become more than a small market team.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't all the money come from TV contracts?
Filling the stadium is good for revenue, but the Brewers TV market is dinky.
by ecocd on Nov 10, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
If I’m not mistaken, teams typically get >50% of their revenue from ticket sales. That probably varies from team to team though, and maybe that isn’t so much the case anymore (I believe I read that in a BPro thing based on a study from the early 2000s).
Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?
by Lefti on Nov 10, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll never be the Yanks or Red Sox or Dodgers
because we don’t have the tv market. But we have the ability to be a mid-large market team, rather than a small market team because of our ticket sales. And those ticket sales result in Parking, which many stadiums don’t have, as well as concession sales. I think we’re still better off than the small market teams listed above.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
but during that time the Twins have averaged 86 wins per year, and if you take out that 10th year when they only won 69, it jumps up to an average of 88 wins. Not only that but they have had 5 playoff appearances, and one tie breaker.
I would much rather have a team that is always in the hunt but may miss the big prize (Bobby Cox’s Braves are a good example). If you can simply make the playoffs, anything can happen and that World Series becomes that much easier, the Marlins have proved that, twice, and thats without spending any money at all.
And with that comes the complete disregard for how many fans come to see the games. Being big market spenders doesnt necessarily translate into success in the field. Id much rather the Brewers take that ticket revenue and put it back into scouting and player development, things like draft pick bonuses, coaching, etc, than becoming a bigger market/Free Agent acquisitor. In the long run its better for the success of the team.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can respect that opinion, and I completely understand it.
I just don’t want to be consistantly 1 step away.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
I understand why people want to build 100 win teams, but I have to write about the Brewers every day, and I’d rather consistently write about 86-win caliber teams who could get lucky and win 90 or make the World Series.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by KLSnow on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all of this
That is The Plan™ for a mid-market team such as ours, and it is frustrating when the front office doesn’t seem like they’re following The Plan.
That said, the Brewers are one season off of having made the playoffs. I get the feeling that you would rather have the Brewers lose correctly than make the playoffs incorrectly.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 10, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Never thought about it that way
But, in the scenario you mention above “lose correctly” the Brewers would still have Matt LaPorta and Michael Brantley. No need to worry about filling a CF hole this year and free to trade Fielder without worrying about getting another first baseman in the deal so as not to completely fall off of a cliff offensively.
I wouldnt rather it happen, its just more efficient.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never thought about it that way
Assuming that LaPorta can right the ship (I expect him to), I’d feel much better about the next few years besides the great rebuild till the next batch is ready.
I’m not sure I’d want to be more like the Twins (Constantly good but not epic) or like the Marlins (Horrible except a few years when they are amazing). If we could figure out some way to mirror both a bit I’d be happy as hell. Not so horrible like the Marlins can be, but not so low high ceiling like the Twins are. Something new…
But I do agree that DM doesn’t manage this team like mid-market and seems to have dreams of another ARod contract.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 10, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, with LaPorta and Brantley still around
You’re still in the same boat re: no pitching with no recent playoff appearance to boot.
Sign Corky Miller
by TheJay on Nov 10, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless, in his situation, Milwaukee can trade Fielder for pitching.
Thinking LaPorta can take over 1st. However, it’s a theory that can still be applied. Instead of LaPorta, the Brewers can put Gamel at first were they to trade Fielder, thus having McGehee at third base and not trading either of them. So, really, the only difference is we would have Brantley, who wasn’t a good fielder, anyway, and would probably have had to be put in a corner outfield spot.
by NoahJ on Nov 10, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That and..
Imagine the value Brantley and LaPorta had over last years off season. Who knows, we maybe could have made a package trade for players like Peavey, Halladay, Cain. Imagine a package of LaPorta/Brantley and Hardy in that off season. That could have maybe gotten a legit ace from someone.
I loved the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong. But I want the team to be built in a away where we can win for a long time.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 11, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez
I was wondering: could we send him to AAA to learn how to hit? Not that we would, of course.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 10, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think he has two options left
Sign Corky Miller
by TheJay on Nov 10, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we offer Cameron arbitration and for whatever reason he accepts, I think that would be a good idea.
Unless, of course, Hart is traded.
by NoahJ on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ROY
Baseball Prospectus posted the NL portion of its 2009 Internet Baseball Awards (subscription required).
Fielder took 3rd in MVP voting (behind Pujols and Hanley, with roughly 1/3 of the points Pujols got); McGehee took 9th in ROY voting (roughly 1/13 the points Hanson got, Happ took second).
by Capt Science on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
SB Nation Awards
Have also been posted the last couple of days on the Reds and Pirates boards.
by backtocali on Nov 10, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
9th is lame
I don’t expect McGeheehee to win ROY, but 9th?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NM I see the tweet
The ivy has been removed and the batters’ eye in CF will be black for 2010, including installation of black mesh below the scoreboard.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 10, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they're putting up the hops ivy
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably hoping to shut Braun up
by improving the batters’ eye
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering what the crane behind CF was for.
I was thinking it was for the new scoreboard.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was something about that being delayed until 2011 or 2012 a few weeks ago
Sign Corky Miller
by TheJay on Nov 10, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i don't remember where that came from, but I saw the crane the next day
I got a little bit excited.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re building a giant robot starting pitcher back there.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*
by SRB on Nov 10, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the FOX football robot?
That’d be pretty badass.
by Rubie Q on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR doesn't think the Crew will be major players for Lackey
Unfortunate mentions of Davis and Washburn. Link.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think they’re going to get Lackey either (possibly a good thing) but the Washburn/Davis part seems like pure conjecture on their part. “The Brewers need pitching, here are two starters I couldn’t link to another team, they must be going to the Brewers”
I could see a Davis signing, but I don’t think Melvin makes the Jeff Suppan Part II mistake with Washburn.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*
by SRB on Nov 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
new prediction - brewers rumored in everything
my new prediction is that the brewers will be rumored to go after lackey, harden, bedard, and anyone else that can get the fanbase excited. that way, when they end up with looper and kendall (which will have been planned all along), people can say “oooooh, we were so close on those other guys! i guess that’s what happens to small markets!”
when, in fact, there was no meat to the rumors, and doug was just trying to excite everyone.
/pessimism overload
by Capt Science on Nov 10, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the Brewers are going to land Lackey, but why are people being so cynical about the management’s commitment to signing a pitcher?
They offered Sabathia a mammoth contract just last season – and while it’s true that he was probably heading to New York, it’s not as if the Brewers made the offer without the desire of actually giving it to him (if it was just to “save face” to fans, that’s a pretty huge gamble if for some reason the Yankees didn’t top it).
Not to mention the huge contracts offered to Suppan, Gagne, Cordero, Hoffman, etc. in recent years. I’m not saying any of those contracts were smart (they’re mostly awful), but clearly they have been willing to spend.
It’s not like we’re the Marlins who unload any player making more than $500,000 every year.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*
by SRB on Nov 10, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully they'll go the huge contract route
with Fielder.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 10, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When will we admit the Sabathia money was never there?
Seriously, it’s almost like talking about when Duke Nukem Forever will be released.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 10, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, turns out the Yankees decided not to make an offer. Melvin just bankrupted the team on a bluff with imaginary money…seriously?
Maybe it would have gutted the team for years to come, but the money and the offer were there.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*
by SRB on Nov 10, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure it would've bankrupted the team... at least not right away.
If Sabathia would’ve signed, the Brewers wouldn’t have signed Looper and probably would’ve let Cameron go. They also probably wouldn’t have signed Hoffman either. Those three alone would’ve been enough to pay Sabathia’s salary at least for 2009.
by sjlee on Nov 10, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was imaginary money
They had no intention of spending it. And probably knew that the Yankees would outbid the Brewers no matter what the value. Come on, did you see him pitch last year? There is zero reason why the Yankees wouldn’t have out bid anyone on the planet for him. They had enough money coming off the books and were in desperate need of pitching.
If the Yankees backed down on the best pitching in the NL during FA, then the mighty Yankees of the last few decades is over with.
Secondly, remember DM was also the one to saddle the Rangers with arods contract? It’s workable to pay the money to CC, but will have devastating effects on the club for years to come. The offer was for the fans and to save face ONLY. The money wasn’t there.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 11, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
The Pittsburgh Post Gazette says that the Pirates offered Matt Capps for JJ Hardy.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so there is a way I can feel good about the trade
battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm
by Michael M on Nov 10, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling Capps is more along the lines of what Melvin was being offered league-wide.
Not to mention he clarified today that the talks with the Red Sox involving Bowden/Buchholz/Bard took place back in July.
Of course, somebody will inevitably argue now that Matt Capps is way better than Carlos Gomez, could have been converted to a starter and been awesome next year, and that Melvin is still a giant idiot…
Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*
by SRB on Nov 10, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a giant idiot.
Although, he could have waited, i don’t know, a week, to pull the trigger on a trade. Maybe make some calls, instead of taking the first offer that sounded okay. Maybe wait until FA begins, maybe wait until ST begins. He moved too quick. He knew that everyone knew Hardy had to go, so he took the first offer that didn’t suck 100%. Just because it only sucked 75% doesn’t make it a good deal.
by Mykenk on Nov 11, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe DM really really really likes Gomez
Thats a possibility as well.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 11, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't rush catchers
Catcher is the most difficult position. Unless your name is “Maurer” you need to get your seasoning in the minors.
Kendall is going to be back because there really aren’t any other options.
by ktenreb on Nov 10, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Melvin rattled off a list of catchers who had jumed from AA to the majors from the top of his head:
Russell Martin
Chris Snyder
Kurt Suzuki
Jason Kendall
Pudge Rodriguez
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Nov 10, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
College Players don't need the same development schedules
More often than not, players (like Lucroy) who have played a college career before being drafted are more advanced offensively and defensively. A college player should be able to rise faster and be productive sooner. Offensively it would be tough to get any less offense out of that spot as well.
by Lange on Nov 10, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How much seasoning is enough?
Sign Corky Miller
by TheJay on Nov 10, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dammit...i take that back
Ask the Colonel
by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Should the Brewers
Look to keep fielder and Braun on long term deals or part with one or both?
by Drew C on Nov 10, 2009 4:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
My guess
Braun is the franchise. He’ll be the player we lock up long term. Boras will probably scare us away, just have to see what we can get for him.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 10, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's the player we've already locked up long term. Or are you talking longer term.
by Mykenk on Nov 10, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't clear
Braun = Long time franchise player. Pooooholes of Milwaukee.
Fielder = Boras will price us out even if we wanted to extend him.
by SgtClueLs on Nov 10, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Should fielder look
To be traded this season?
by Drew C on Nov 10, 2009 4:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'd say so...
particularly if he doesn’t sign an extension before the Brewers are out of the playoff race.
by sjlee on Nov 10, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sooooo
You’re saying I shouldn’t invest in a Fielder jersey for next season….
Maybe Ill buy a Gomez jersey… Your thoughts.
by Drew C on Nov 10, 2009 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I would go Escobar, personally.
Or, at least, if you were looking for someone who figures to be here for awhile.
The one I would buy for myself would be a Weeks jersey. Just because he is my favorite Brewer.
by NoahJ on Nov 10, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Braun or Escobar
Those seem to be the ones most likely to be around 4 years from now if you’re looking for a long-term investment.
by ecocd on Nov 10, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're doing it wrong!
Get a new jersey every year. Support your team!!!
by Mykenk on Nov 10, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Go ahead and invest... just don't be surprised if you don't wear it after next season.
You’re better off getting a Braun jersey, then maybe an Escobar one. Both should be Brewers for the next few seasons.
by sjlee on Nov 11, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This has me annoyed
Via Joel Sherman’s twitter
@nyp_joelsherman can now confirm foxsports.com rpt that #tigers jackson is indeed available
Melvin last week:
In an e-mail to the Free Press after the deal was announced, Milwaukee general manager Doug Melvin said he didn’t contact the Tigers about Hardy because they didn’t have what he sought in return.
"I was looking specifically for a center fielder or pitching that was low (in) salary and low (in) service time," Melvin wrote. "I did not see a match so I did not call (the Tigers)."
I realize it would have taken more than Hardy to get Jackson, but would it have killed Melvin to at least contact them? Jackson is under team control for two more years. Detroit is obviously floating it out there that they are willing to deal him and are in need of a SS.
Even more reason to be perplexed at the timing of the whole thing.
by Supertramp on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he and the tigers GM
had a nasty breakup. I mean, do you really think either is married?
by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 11, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course there's always the flip side...
if the Tigers were interested in Hardy, they could have easily contacted DM. The phone works both ways.
by sjlee on Nov 11, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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St. Louis
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91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
|
Chicago
|
83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
|
Milwaukee
|
80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
|
Cincinnati
|
78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
|
Houston
|
74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
|
Pittsburgh
|
62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
(updated 11.20.2009 at 4:30 PM CST)
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