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Speculationville: Edwin Jackson/Curtis Granderson

The Brewers and Tigers didn't come together on a deal for J.J. Hardy, mainly because Doug Melvin didn't see them as a match, but is it possible they could still come together for a deal? Try this one on for size:

The Brewers desperately need starting pitching. At the same time, they're saving some money but losing some reliability by replacing Mike Cameron in center field with Carlos Gomez. Gomez is still young, strong defensively and has a lot of potential, but he's not really the type of player a contending team should be relying upon to contribute offensively. 

Meanwhile, the Tigers are in the midst of significant financial issues. They spent over $115 million in 2009 despite declining attendance and an economic situation in Detroit that's bleak at best. They're likely to be looking to cut payroll, and they have a couple of players that could be of interest to the Brewers.

The proposal:

Brewers get:

RHP Edwin Jackson. The Tigers are reportedly looking to move Jackson, who made $2.25 million in 2009 and is due for a significant raise in arbitration. He earned that raise this season, posting a 3.62 ERA in 214 innings of work, striking out 161 and appearing in his first All Star Game. Jackson will likely get $4.5-5 million in arbitration, still less than the Brewers would likely spend to acquire a lesser talent via free agency, and would still be under Brewer control for 2011.

CF Curtis Granderson. While his offensive production has backslid a bit over the last three seasons, Granderson is still one of the game's better center fielders, with a career .272/.344/.484 line. He's still just 28 years old, so he's not in the decline of his career yet, and should be a productive player for the length of his contract. Granderson probably wouldn't be available if not for his contract: he's due $23.75 million over the next three seasons, plus an option for 2013. With that said, the deal isn't as bad as you might think: Granderson is only due $5.5 million for 2010. He'll get raises each of the next two seasons, but the Brewers will also have money to spare, once Suppan, Hall and Riske's contracts are off the books.

Tigers get:

3B Casey McGehee. The Tigers are also reportedly interested in unloading the contract of Brandon Inge, who is due $6.6 million in 2010. If they do decide to move Inge, they'll need a long-term solution for the position, and McGehee could be it. With one year of service time, McGehee would be under the Tigers' control for the next five seasons, and could be paid at or around the league minimum for 2010 and 2011.

(I considered putting Mat Gamel in this trade instead of McGehee, but I think six years of Gamel is significantly too much to trade for two years of Jackson. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong in the comments.)

CF Carlos Gomez. We've blasted Gomez a lot around here over the last few days, so it's probably not surprising that I'm advocating for unloading him. With that said, all the positive things that have been said about Gomez still apply: he's young, could improve, still under team control for several seasons and very good defensively. He's not as good as Granderson and perhaps never will be, but he's much less expensive: He'll qualify for arbitration this winter for the first time, but will still likely make less than $1.5 million.

Salary relief. If the Tigers also manage to unload Brandon Inge in another deal, they'll have cut $37.35 million in financial commitments, including $17.1 for 2010, and taken on less than $2 million.

What do you think?

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KLSnow, by proposing this trade, you are:
A genius. This deal could work.
44 votes
Close, but the Brewers need to give more.
120 votes
Close, but the Tigers need to give more.
15 votes
An idiot. Really, you thought this would work?
123 votes

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Aside from the fact that the trade as proposed would never go through (I assume Detroit are asking significantly more for Jackson than just McGehee and significantly more than just Gomez for Granderson, much less the two paired together – even if they desperately needed salary relief, which I don’t think they really do) I still wouldn’t like that trade very much.

The only redeeming aspect of the Hardy trade (I liked it, but I’m clearly in a minority) was that it gave the Brewers a cheap centerfielder to clear payroll for the next 4+ seasons. If you consider the Gomez/Granderson part of this trade in a vacuum, you would be taking on a centerfielder in Granderson who is both comparatively expensive and arguably worse than if the Brewers had just resigned Mike Cameron. Granderson had a monster year in 2007, but the last two seasons have suggested that might have been a fluke. If you want Granderson, you might as well just keep Gomez and resign Cameron separately.

As for Jackson; he’s good, but he’s almost certainly overpriced by Detroit. Like you said, I wouldn’t want to give up Gamel or any of the other better Brewers prospects for two years of Jackson. I would rather McGehee get packaged with Hart, though I’m not sure what they could net (maybe Vazquez?)

Wouldn’t hurt for Melvin to at least proactively inquire though; if McGehee/Jackson somehow happened I would be pretty happy.

Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*

by SRB on Nov 13, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

I think the Crew would have to give up alot more.

Gomez is close to a similar value to Jackson in my opinion espeically considering 4 years of Gomez for 2 of Jackson but McGehee has nowhere near the same trade value as Granderson. McGehee has just not played long enough in the majors for another team to be sure that he is worth the same as player like Granderson.

by Saltire on Nov 13, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Thus...Omar Aguilar!

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 13, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't think 2 for 2 will get it done

The Tigers will probably want some kind of pitching back for Jackson. I’d do this deal plus…say…Omar Aguilar.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 13, 2009 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

McGehee

I wonder if the Tigers would see him as anything more than a younger Mike Hessman who actually got a shot in the majors. They didn’t think enough of Hessman to keep him in the majors.

Sign Corky Miller

by TheJay on Nov 13, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

The Crew can take on that salary with all the moves they've been making

Edwin Jackson and Magglio Ordonez ($18MM in 2010) for Manny Parra, Corey Hart and J Jeffress.

by Nolan R(owland-Smith) on Nov 14, 2009 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

That gets me thinking

does Jeffress have trade value right now?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 14, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we can promise he'll bring his stash with him...

… and Lincecum will threaten not to report to the Giants until they trade Matt Cain for him.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 14, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Use him in a sting? I like it.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this one

no very realistic but I’d love to see Magglio batting behind Fielder.

I basically dont think we are a good match with the tigers, unless they are willing to take Cory Hart and Taylor Green.

I am not a fan of trading Gamel, his trade value is low, McGhee may not be able to play full time as his injury is the type that will linger and we have him for 6 years.

I’d prefer a trade for Vasquez from Atlanta

by JayzTazay on Nov 15, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I say we shoot for the stars with Detroit

Let’s try for Verlander!

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 15, 2009 9:01 PM CST reply actions  

And Cabrera!

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 16, 2009 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

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