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Via Haudricourt comes this link from FOX Sports: Jarrod Washburn says the Brewers and Twins are two teams "on his radar," but he doesn't know if they're interested.

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Hometown Discount?

Maybe if he’s “interested” he can be had for cheap? Doubtful.

by mnbrewer on Nov 18, 2009 5:00 PM CST reply actions  

We'd love to have you for 1 year, $5 mil!

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 18, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

PLEASE NO

This blogger, MorneauVP, on MLBTRADE RUMORS.COM put it best

“Washburn posted a 2.64 ERA as a flyball pitcher in a giant park with one of the best outfield defenses in recent history behind him.

“Gutierrez, Ichiro, and Chavez were absolutely fantastic behind him.

“Delmon Young and Michael Cuddyer won’t come close to providing that kind of defense, and while Span is a plus defender, Gutierrez has him and just about every other CFer in baseball crushed.

“He pitches to contact, but doesn’t induce ground balls, he’s 35, hasn’t posted a solid season aside from 2009 in years, and put up an FIP of 3.87 and an xFIP of 4.71 with the Mariners alone last season when he was supposedly good. He had a ridiculously low .246 BABIP as well.

“Washburn should be avoided at all costs.”

Gomez may be comparable to Gutierrez, but Hart is no Ichiro. Eitherway Washburn is going to pitch to a 4.5 ERA and we can get Bush to do that for $5 mil, so Washburn is not worth more than that.

by JayzTazay on Nov 18, 2009 11:39 PM CST reply actions  

Hart

seems to be a pretty damn good defender. He may not be as good as Ichiro but he deserves his due.

by Donald Driver on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

seems, huh?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 18, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Hart seems like a pretty damn average defender to me

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 19, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He's had a negative UZR/150 the last two years.

He’s not Braun-level bad in the field, but he’s not far off.

by Rubie Q on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

fielding stats are nothing if not bullshit

these are my facts about him: he’s extremely fast, he mostly takes the best route to the ball, and very rarely commits an error. He also makes quick, accurate throws to home. If there’s something wrong with him, to me it’s at the plate over the 1.5 year(s).

by Donald Driver on Nov 20, 2009 3:22 AM CST up reply actions  

routes to balls

I remember a bunch of balls making it to the wall that shouldn’t have in 2008.

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 20, 2009 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Hart is not a great RF

His ceiling is averagish…

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Nov 20, 2009 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

People tend to equate fast with good defense

It doesn’t work like that, as good outfielding is all about reaction time, acceleration, and route.

That’s why fielding stats are valuable. There is a zone where, if a ball falls, an outfielder should be able to catch it. There were balls that fell in that zone that Hart didn’t catch.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

How about learning about them before ignorantly dismissing them as bullshit?

I’d like to hear your disagreement with the methodology…

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

One of the bigger gripes with defensive metrics is it takes a relatively large sample in order to be able to try and draw conclusions. Looking at and comparing all of the good metrics out there, and also watching Hart with my own two eyes (Krasnick has that good article that cautions about going with simply one or the other—a combination is the most effective), I can confidently say Corey Hart is a below average defender in right field.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 22, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

really?

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 19, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

MorneauVP said it best:

Washburn should be avoided at all costs.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 19, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably as much as he elevated it in the 1st half

I still like that in late 2008 the Mariners could have let him and his Suppanesque contract & performance go to Minnesota on a waiver claim but they yanked him back because the Twins wouldn’t give up anything for him (or something to that effect). Sometimes it truly is the moves dumb GMs obstruct that work out…

by TheJay on Nov 20, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

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