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Thursday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while getting the dog more fiber.

While it's hardly Earth-shattering, the Brewers made an interesting move yesterday, claiming catcher George Kottaras off waivers from Boston (FanShot). Kottaras is 26 and a former top prospect in the Padres organization. He reportedly requested his release, as he wasn't going to get much playing time with both Jason Varitek and Victor Martinez back in Boston next season. Here's a quick list of things to know about him:
  • He appeared in three games for the Red Sox in 2008, but saw his first significant MLB action in 2009, when he hit .237/.308/.387 in 107 PAs (45 games).
  • He's spent parts of the last four seasons in AAA, hitting .239/.331/.424.
  • He's out of options, so he'll either have to make the team in spring training or be placed on waivers.
  • He's left handed. The other three Brewer catchers on the 40-man roster (Mike Rivera, Angel Salome and Jonathan Lucroy) are all righties.
Doug Melvin acknowledged that this move was made for depth, not because he sees Kottaras as a front line catcher in 2010. With that said, this move probably isn't good news for Mike Rivera. Rivera is 33 and eligible for arbitration for the first time this offseason, and the Brewers may see Kottaras as a player who could provide similar production for less money. With that said, Brew City Sports isn't too excited about him.

Kottaras wasn't the only player added to the roster yesterday: Lorenzo Cain and pitcher Amaury Rivas were also added to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft in December (FanShot). The Brewers still have four open spots on the roster, so they could feasibly add another player or two before tomorrow's deadline.

Unless another waiver claim comes up, it could be a quiet day today. Doug Melvin said the Brewers aren't likely to reach a deal with any of their pending free agents before they're allowed to negotiate with other teams tomorrow.

The neverending saga of Mark Mulder continues. Today, Tom H. says it would be a huge upset if Mark Mulder isn't a Brewer next spring. The only thing that moves slower than these negotiations is another Brewer free agent, Claudio Vargas.

Meanwhile, the field of contenders might be narrowing for Jarrod Washburn. Larry Larue of The Tacoma News Tribune says Washburn has expressed interest in playing for the Brewers, but is also considering the Twins and wouldn't mind returning to the Mariners (FanShot).

On another free agent front with mild Brewer interest: The OC Register has a poll asking readers where John Lackey will sign. As of this writing, the Brewers were tied for ninth in the voting.

As for moves that have already been made, Rubie Q is still not happy about the J.J. Hardy deal, but Miller Park Drunk takes a look at the similarities between Hardy's career path and the path of one of his top comparisons.

Down in the minors, we have stadium news in Appleton, where the Timber Rattlers are doing some renovations this offseason. They're moving the bullpens into the outfield to add some new seats (including an All-You-Can-Eat section), and adding a sand beach general admission area in right field.

No transactions of note today, so I'll move straight into the other notes:

Zach Greinke recently won the AL Cy Young Award, surprising no one, with an incredible season. Keep Turning up The Heat! compared Greinke's 2009 season to Ben Sheets' 2004 performance, and it's closer than you might think.

If you have hours to kill and would love to read Rollie Fingers talking about all things baseball (and his new book), then this Dugout Doctors interview was written with you in mind.

Just a few weeks ago, I mentioned the debut of the Florida Winter Baseball League, and the possibility that it could be a game-changer for American players looking for the opportunity to sharpen their skills without leaving the US. As it turns out, the Caribbean leagues won't have much to worry about, as FWBL has canceled the remainder of the season after just 15 games. So much for that idea.

Maybe the new goal can be "no games in November:" Bud Selig is reportedly looking into the possibility of eliminating some postseason off days to attempt to move things along a bit.

On this day in 1976, the Brewers signed Sal Bando as a free agent. Bando spent the final five seasons of his career in Milwaukee, hitting .250/.335/.382. He would later return as GM and spend most of the 90's digging a hole the Brewers would need another decade to dig out of.

No Brewer birthdays today, but happy birthday to the other Joe Morgan, who played in 13 games for the 1959 Milwaukee Braves and turns 79.

Oh, and every high school newspaper reporter makes this mistake once, but apparently some don't learn from it: Calling a player an idiot in "not for print" notes in your story is never a good idea.

Drink up.

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TheJay, or other statistical people...

What’s the similarity score between JJ and NKOTB?

You sure put some funny stuff in the Mug today KL, kudos!

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Nov 19, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

Good lord

that had to be the funniest Brewers thing I’ve read in awhile. Congrats to MPD on that one.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 19, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Commenter:

“Good lord, that had to be the best comparison of Player/Boy Band ever created.”

Seriously, is there that much competition?

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Nov 19, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

obviously you missed the Andy Marte/O-town report from last month

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 19, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll bet NKOTB were in a soap once too

…or at least a media type outside of their typical music/interview schedule. SNL?

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 19, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

the only problem with that article

is that NKOTB made a ‘comeback’ this year or last—some of my co-workers went to their concert. I was into They Might Be Giants when the New Kids were big, so what do I know?

(note—no, I don’t want Hardy back.)

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Kottaras

Am I wrong in thinking he’s about as good a catcher as you can hope to get from outside of the organization for free? Offensively, at least.

by TheJay on Nov 19, 2009 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

No, I think that's accurate.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 19, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

that is pretty offensive

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 19, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

My problem is

We’re obviously no longer in Win Now Mode™ but appear to be in Fuck It, Lets Fleece the Fans for Another 15 Years And Complain About Our Marketsize Mode™ with no plans for the future (our recent draft picks, other than Lawrie are rather underwhelming).

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 19, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You're making it sound like they're trying to lose

They might not see next year as a win-now year because this is a really bad offseason to try and rebuild a pitching staff. Maybe they’re just trying to piece together a team that will be ok next season and then really make a run at in in 2011.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 19, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

But is next off-season going to be any better, in terms of pitching?

That’s not a rhetorical question; I haven’t looked to see who has expiring contracts or is free agent-eligible after 2010.

by Rubie Q on Nov 19, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

2011 free agents

2011 free agents here

Look like some good ones there that the Brewers can’t afford, unless they try to get JDLR back or somethin’. All I see are marginal guys who give up a lot of runs, or decent pitchers when they’re not on the DL. Or the Brewers’ own guys.

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that how every offseason goes?

The only good pitchers available are guys that are too expensive?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 19, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

mostly

Some years you will have the guys who aren’t superstars but aren’t completely horrible either, which is why I mentioned de la Rosa (unless his 2008 and 2009 were total flukes.) The pre-2011 offseason doesn’t look like one of those years.

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really disagreeing

But how have the recent draft picks been underwhelming? They’re not all going to reach the majors in a year or two (like a Braun or Lawrie). I guess part of the perception of underwhelming drafts is the gap between the low-minors and high-minors, but I think that came from promotions and trades, not because recent drafts are underwhelming.

by TheJay on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean they still insist on drafting pitchers in the early rounds

when they continue to see year after year their pitching draft picks (aside from YG – and that’s still undecided) flame out. This was especially evident 2 years ago.

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 19, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

So what's the answer?

Not pick any pitchers in early rounds and wind up in the same situation?

by TheJay on Nov 19, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Pick the best player available when they come up in the draft

Tie going to the position player.

Obviously skipping over pitchers completely isn’t the best option, as then you might add up with some 15th rounder that’s only maginally better than the 16th rounder you would have drafted with your next pick. But there’s no sense wasting picks to fill up a pre-fab quota of pitchers who you suck at scouting.

by PagsBrewCrew on Nov 19, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

It looks like you're arguing with yourself

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 19, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I get that

But the reference to Lawrie suggested to me Pags was taking issue with early round picks.

by TheJay on Nov 19, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

No he's not.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 19, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes he is.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 19, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed, 100%

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 19, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude

You missed Larry Haney’s Birthday — for shame!


1982 coach as well…

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Nov 19, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

FTJ FTW!!!

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 19, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Arbitration free agents?

Do we think the Brewers planning to offer arbitration to any of the A and B free agents? Can they afford to have any of them take them up on the arbitration offer or are they going to have to forego most/all of their compensation picks this year?

by ecocd on Nov 19, 2009 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

(*NFP:

CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THE SPELLING OF ‘MACHA’ FOR ME? MY SPELL CHECK SAYS THAT IT IS NOT A WORD. K THANX BYE.)

/ Witrado’d

by Rubie Q on Nov 19, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 19, 2009 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

Hey all

lifelong Sox fan who recently realized that we’re the same as the damn Yankees (overbudgeted, big-city, playoff-buying fascists.) Anyway, I’ve decided to spend this season becoming a Brewers fan instead. I chose the Brewers because, well, I love beer. I don’t know squat about the team or it’s history, but I will come here often to read up. Don’t kill me when I have a dumb comment. I am just a convert.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 19, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

Looks like the M's are aiming for Edwin Jackson

From USAToday’s Bob Nightengale

Keep and eye on developing three-way trade talk with Tigers and Mariners and mystery team involving M’s Brandon Morrow and Dets Jackson

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 19, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

we escape!

Brad Thompson signs with Royals

(“We” as in Brewers fans, not as in the Brewers—none of us wanted to see him around, right?)

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

doug must be sad

his cardinal alumni association (milwaukee pitching rubber branch) is going to be incomplete.

by Capt Science on Nov 19, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

This is bullcrap!

Lot Names Renamed

Stop killing my childhood Brewers! Long live Giants lot!

by SgtClueLs on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

How they omit Deer is beyond me

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 19, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Hanks lot

Why isn’t his lot the SAME lot where his record setting ball landed at? There is a marker indicating where it landed, yet the lot isn’t named after it.

Fail.

by SgtClueLs on Nov 19, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad they didnt have a bunch of players named after things you don't want to hit with your car

Rob Deer
John Other Carr
Tony Tree
Chris Pedestrian

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 19, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I suppose I left off another

I wouldn’t want to hut Ruben Quevedo with my car.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 19, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah, that wouldn't hurt it.

It’d be like driving into the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. Too much blubber to do any significant damage.

by Rubie Q on Nov 19, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Did the County lots have names?

Not like it was particularly hard to memorize where the cars were as most of the time you parked really close anyway….

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't remember

I didn’t do the driving back then anyway, just the navigation. I could remember where stuff was a lot better than my mother could, and in any case “the blue Chevette with the rust and the Minnesota plates” was not hard to miss.

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

Giving the Cardinals the Fingers.

by TheJay on Nov 19, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

well, if they're going to have a Gantner lot

may as well have a (Damian) Miller one, and name the first new lot for Counsell.

by morineko on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone with Firefox:

Have you ever had any problems with add-ons, specifically them not being able to download due to Error 228? And do you know how to fix it? Any help would be appreciated.

by NoahJ on Nov 19, 2009 5:54 PM CST reply actions  

Never mind.

I think I figured it out.

by NoahJ on Nov 19, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that it matters now, I guess

but no. If you haven’t figured it out, though, look here.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 21, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

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