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McCalvy breaks the story. No breakdown on vote yet. Braun 11th.

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Jeremy Affeldt had 0.2 more WAR than Manny Parra.

And (without taking Catcher defense into the equation) had 0.4 less WAR than Jason Kendall.

Kendall for MVP!

by NoahJ on Nov 24, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I was curious on that one

as well as the Yunel Escobar 5th place vote.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 24, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah man

that’s your jurisdiction

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 24, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

At least he understands that it's nonsense:
And no, I can’t really make an airtight case for Affeldt, a middle reliever, as the 10th most valuable player in the league. Especially when I don’t have Tim Lincecum, or any other pitcher for that matter, on my ballot.

Recognizing the problem is the first step.

by Rubie Q on Nov 24, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually think more writers should use 10th place votes like that

Give some attention to great seasons^ that flew under the radar. I’m glad Mark Reynolds got some votes for the same reason.

^ – cue talk about how Affeldt’s year wasn’t that great blah blah blah :)

by TheJay on Nov 24, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

blah blah blah

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 24, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Howard ahead of Fielder = ridiculous.

Ryan Braun: He loves it. *Secretly, I am Carlos Gomez*

by SRB on Nov 24, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Called

the top 4

Voters love Howards counting stats. Add to it that the Phillies were on the good side of .500 it was inevitable. He’s the ultimate clutch though. Also accounts for Yunel Escobar’s points. I think he led the league in BA RISP, something like that.

Only 3 players in the last 25 years have finished 3rd or above in NL MVP voting, coming from a team with a losing record.

by backtocali on Nov 24, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

But Bryan Burwell told me that the sabermetricians had won!

And now people are leaving Utley — who had the second-highest WAR in the NL — off their ballots entirely? I don’t understand what this all means. It’s cold … so very, very cold …

by Rubie Q on Nov 24, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know.

I just don’t understand how anybody could possibly put Fielder in the tenth place spot on their ballot.

by NoahJ on Nov 24, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

You could be Jon Heyman

and support leaving Prince off the ballot entirely.

by Rubie Q on Nov 24, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Or a San Francisco voter

who felt dissed on September 6.

You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.

by hawing on Nov 24, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen fantasy names for the first 2

1)Arod in your Pujols
2)Prince and Repeat

I’m thinking about “Ryan, Howard You Doing Today?” for next year

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 24, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

well, that would make sense if Hanley and Prince were switched.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 24, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Is the media completely unaware

of the awesomeness that is Ryan Zimmerman? That’s just shameful.

by levnclf on Nov 24, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

CHASE UTLEY IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN HOWARD

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 24, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

Hey, there you are!

I thought I put that Haudricourt FanShot on a tee for you, but there wasn’t a peep all afternoon.

by Rubie Q on Nov 24, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh

Although I expected it, Fielder finishing behind Howard is pretty ridiculous. You can make a decent case for Hanley Ramirez but I still believe Fielder should have gotten second. I could sit here and list all the stats but you’ve probably seen them. Fielder statistically bested Howard in all but maybe one major category, and not all by small margins. You can say Howard has been clutch all you want but Prince hasn’t had any problems in the 7th inning or later either. Hooray small market.

by Tick on Nov 25, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

honestly

who cares if he doesn’t win?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 25, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

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