Weekend Dad Mug -- Hall of Fame Edition
by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 9:57 AM CST
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Hey Kids! Back so soon? -- Why did your Regular Dad drop you off at my doorstop again? Your guess is as good as mine.
In either case let me get some clean sweatpants on (I had a little trouble with the turkey), and tell you all about a bunch of guys that played the game the way it was supposed to be played, not with all the muscle pills that the players use today.
The BBWAA is a group of Busterolney's that randomly elect retired players to be enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown every year. They released their ballot on Friday. The names that are going into the fishbowl this year are as follows:
Roberto Alomar, Kevin Appier, Harold Baines, Bert Blyleven, Ellis Burks, Andre Dawson, Andres Galarraga, Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson, Eric Karros, Ray Lankford, Barry Larkin, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Shane Reynolds, David Segui, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Robin Ventura, Todd Zeile
Former Brewer, Dave Parker believes he should be elected.
The most interesting ballot newbies this year are Roberto Alomar, Edgar Martinez, Fred McGriff and Barry Larkin. This quartet should make for an interesting election, as none of them are slam-dunks, nor are they easily dismissed.
- The Bleacher Report makes an argument for Edgar Martinez. Did you know only Jimmy Foxx and Babe Ruth have a higher BA, while accumulating more BBs (at least 1200 BBs) than strikeouts in their careers?
- The Bleacher Report then continues on wondering "How can the Crime Dog McGriff not get elected"? Maybe the answer is to kick Tony Perez out of Cooperstown?
- The NY Times catches us up on who Roberto Alomar is spitting on these days...
- MLB.com has a summary of the arguments for including Barry Larkin.
- And finally, the Bleacher Report just wonders if no one at all will be elected in 2010.
In other turkey grease fires, former Milwaukee superstar Bud Selig announced his pending down-stepping. Stories about Bud Selig interest me about as much as stories about your Regular Dad, or what you are doing in school, so I will leave it to you to find more about this if you so desire.
The Red Sox are in the market for a SS, and now that Alex Gonzalez has been inked by the Jays, Marco Scutaro is the Sox's primary target (Too bad the Brewers didn't have a SS to trade to Boston). Weighing in with the definitive opinion on Scutaro, is deep-frying super-utility man Lou Merloni.
Will Felipe Lopez be joining JJ Hardy in Minnesota next year? -- Bleacher Report seems to think Lopez could be a perfect fit. This just in, Felipe Lopez's wife is turkey-fire hot!
Doug Melvin weighed in on the future of Felipe Lopez and other things in a ESPN interview.
- The Brewers may very well pass on offering Lopez and Mike Cameron Arbys.
- Mat Gamel could end up in the OF
- Cory Hart's attempt to embrace patience was an epic fail
- 2010 Batting order musings.
I don't want you to think that every Thanksgiving story needs to be exclusively about turkey fires, so here is a nice piece about Prince Fielder and Casey McGehee's son Mack. On the other hand, I do want you to commit to memory the things I am not thankful for, conveniently organized in one of those Sporcle quizzes your Regular Dad seems to be so fond of.
Unless you are Ned Yost, Ned Yost IV or Julian Tavarez, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving weekend!
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I'm probably just ignorant of some rule or dynamic at work here...
… but not offering arbitration to Cam and Lopez seems pretty stupid to me. Worst case scenario is that they accept and you have (gasp!) a commodity on your hands you can trade for, oh I don’t know… pitching.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 29, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Yeah worst-case both would be tradeable for nothing
I guess there’s a really small chance you get stuck with one, but I think the risk is easily worth it.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
yeah,
We certainly wouldn’t get much for either of them, but still. It’s worth a shot. Especially with Lopez not being a Type A free agent, he’s less likely to accept the offer. And if he did, that would open up the trade-Rickie-Weeks option.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Even if you get absolutely nothing
Like PTBNL or “cash” that winds up being $100,000. Whatever. Why not offer it? Odds are they realize that if they accept they’ll just get traded because there’s no playing time, so they decline, and you get draft picks. And if they accept you trade them for nothing, which is the same thing you get if you just let them walk. The worst-case scenario is you start the year with Lopez on a $6 mil deal or Cam on a $10 mil deal, which would be easily tradeable early in the year I’m sure.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
17
I do much better on FtJ Sporcle.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
15 for me
I tried about a dozen crappy beers and didn’t guess the one you were looking for.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Nov 29, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
15 is still pretty good.
17 is quite good. I’m not sure I could get a 17.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
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Best job I’ve done on any of the BCB sporcles. That happens when you’ve been following the team for two years.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
It makes it sound like
you’ve been following FtJ for decades.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Who have you been talking to?
No but seriously, my time on this board has taught me that brewers fans have certain hatreds that run across the whole population. Big surprise…FtJ is not thankful for Ned Yost.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
You will find that this also...
Holds true for
Johnny Estrada
Sal Bando
Jeffery Hammonds
Gary Sheffield.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
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Field of Dreams is a great movie!
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 29, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
For a movie starring Costner, I agree it's not bad
Otherwise, it’s racist drivel.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'll admit I haven't seen that movie in at least 10 years...
… but how is it racist? Am I forgetting something? Is it the absence of black players among those that come out of the cornfield to play baseball?
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 29, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure either
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 29, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
No African Americans come out of the corn field.
What’s up with that? I think it is fair to presume that Costner’s messages were as follows…
1.) He was pro-color line.
2.) I have to further assume that Costner was also making a statement with regards to minorities in the after-life.
Also you need to notice that they chose to sacrifice Terence Mann to “He Who Walks Behind the Rows”.
Really, Field of Dreams is a modern-day Birth of a Nation — with less talent.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Well...
none of the Black Sox that came out of the corn were black, so you could also go the way that Costner is arguing that black players are the only non-corrupt players.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 29, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sure I follow....
I am sure you are aware that the Black Sox were all white guys.
It should be obvious to any film enthusiast that Costner was telling us that even though the Black Sox were corrupt they were able to enjoy the after-life, while the African-Americans were not.
And then Terence Mann was sent to his death….
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Technically, Costner didn’t adapt the novel Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella for the screen, Phil Alden Robinson did. So, while there likely was some creative license taken by Robinson, its probably not fair to pin any potential racial undertones on Costner.
Although I can understand why you would want to after Waterworld.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 29, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
It takes a very special hatred to make The Postman AND Waterworld
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
I concur
But you can’t forget this gem.
Also, he produced both Waterworld and Postman. Maybe he should switch professions.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 29, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
He did
Now he makes music with his band of asshats.
Guess What.
It is really really hard to listen to.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Shocked I am not.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 30, 2009 2:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, I know the Black Sox were all white
But you can’t fault a movie for being accurate. Its not like the writer of the movie/book decided to not let African-Americans play for all those years.
And I wouldn’t really say that that the Black Sox were enjoying the afterlife. Shoeless Joe lived a tortured, sad afterlife, until the field was built. And if Terrance Mann did die when he entered the corn, he was certainly living a happy afterlife, finally being able to see Ebbets Field.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Nov 29, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
in the book "Shoeless Joe"
Ray goes out east to retrieve J.D. Salinger, not the guy in the movie.
The book is better than the movie, but it’s definitely not my favorite of Kinsella’s novels.
Two Things.
1.) African Americans DID play baseball — just not MLB.
2.) Terence Mann was sacrificed to He Who Walks Behind the Rows, he was horribly mutilated, and probably turned into a scarecrow
Kevin Costner is bad at movies.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Kevin Costner is bad at movies.
For true.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 30, 2009 2:17 AM CST up reply actions
He played an excellent corpse in the Big Chill.
Of course it’s hard to screw up momentary extreme close-ups of your wrist, ankle and hairline.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 30, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
I'm going to go ahead and assume you're being facetious.
I don’t have much trouble with those who choose to criticize Costner movies generally, and the criticism about the absence of minorities in the baseball scenes is legit (in fact, Negro League players getting the chance to compete against white players would have fit the theme of the film perfectly), it’s still a pretty big leap to conclude what you’ve concluded about Costner’s attitude.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 29, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
probably a little facetious ;)
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
16.
And I’m happy to report I got the veggie on the first try. But I respectfully disagree on the beer: anyone who’s had Milwaukee’s Best Ice will tell you that’s the worst swill that’s ever been made.
by Rubie Q on Nov 29, 2009 4:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That is a terrible beer.
I will; take it under consideration…
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
At some point you have to take responsibility for your beer choice, however...
… if you wander into a store and pick up a beer whose name includes the words “Milwaukee’s Best” OR “Ice”, let alone both, you pretty much deserve what you get.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 29, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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I read “movies” as “moves”, and kept plugging in the names of shitty GMs
Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.
The coolest motherfunker on the planet.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Nov 29, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions
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not Old Style? For shame.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
17, in less than 5 minutes
Booyah! Of course, I learned in grad school how to read people like a book.
I would like to request extra credit for thinking of “cats,” which you mysteriously left off your quiz.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Wow -- Congrats!
Dude — I totally intended to use “Cats” — but forgot — I even was going to use the clue “The musical and the animal”.
I was counting on you to identify my arch-enemies.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I totally knew your arch-enemies
as you’ve mentioned that elsewhere.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
they suck
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
So does this mean
I get the extra credit on ‘cats’?
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Yeah
+1 for you. Definitely. That gives you 18 and the lead.
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by Fatter than Joey on Nov 29, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
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