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Kyle is off for the next couple of days (Where is he? I'm not saying) and I'm the first of numerous fill-ins.  I'll be setting the bar fairly low. Who am I? I'm Dan Walsh from SportsBubbler and among other things for the site, I write The Daily Drink blog. I like to refer to myself as a lowly blogger working for a dying newspaper company. The Daily Drink is more of an All-Wisconsin sports/pop culture-style Frosty Mug. Kyle has filled in for me in the past, so I'm returning the favor. I'll do my best not to stray too far from what he does. Don't hate me just yet, I'm the guy who scored Kyle all the Seth McClung schwag swag for the "Bring Back Seth McClung" Facebook Group.

For those who Tweet, you can follow me @SportsBubbler

Best New Link of The Day: Pizza? In Milwaukee, the new site Doctors of Za has you covered. Added Value? Anthony Witrado jokes. Who could that T. Mario guy be?

Over at MLB Trade Rumors they look at the Center Fielder trade market. It's the biggest non-pitching question mark that the Brewers have besides catcher this offseason. The general consensus is that Mike Cameron is gone and the Brewers are going to give Jody Gerut a shot at the CF position until Cain is ready. When looking at the list from MLBTR, it makes Jody Gerut all that more appealing. There are some absolute dog contracts that I have no interest in seeing on the Brewers payroll.

Brewers Locker wonders if the Brewers should talk to the Dodgers about Juan Pierre. Pierre would bring a .301 career BA and .348 career OBP. He brings s bit of speed on the basepaths. He also brings to the table not an ounce of power. Is he what the Brewers need? Would you take Pierre over Cameron, or Pierre over Gerut?

Adam McCalvy talks about Mark Rogers being picked for the AFL showcase. His numbers in AFL may not have justified it, but his numbers in Brevard County did. Kudos to a kid who has been through hell and back because of injuries.

Adam also points out that Bill James has high hopes for Mat Gamel. The real question is, do the Brewers brass still have high hopes for Gamel?

Bernie's Crew ranks the Top 5 Brewers catching prospects. Lucroy, Salome, Garfield, Zarraga, & Roberts. While over there at SportsBubbler, make sure to check out our other fine Brewers bloggers, The Junkball Blues and Between the Green Pillars.

Mark A talked about small market teams being shut out this postseason. Milwaukee Brewers owner Mark Attanasio thought about the teams in baseball's final four this year — all large-market clubs — and wondered whether there would be room for his franchise anytime soon. "We don't know if that's a trend or just an aberration," he said. "The disparity among the clubs appears to be widening." Listen, if the Yankees want to spend $200 Million every year and not make it to the World Series most of the time, let them spend it.

Some college kid wrote a blog post "Commish for a Day". He wants to kill the wild card, kill interleague play, kill the divisions, kill the DH, kill replay and move the Brewers back to the National American League. It's like the kid is auditioning for a job as a columnist for a major newspaper.

Tonight the Phillies look to extend the baseball season. I can honestly say I'm not terribly interested in the World Series this year. I'll be watching "Modern Family' tonight instead.

From the Wall Street Journal: Chase Utley - The evolved Reggie Jackson. Utley belted two mammoth home runs Monday night, tying him with Reggie Jackson as the only player to hit five homers in a single World Series. What you won’t get from Utley is the bombast that Jackson exuded on and off the field.

Manual is making a mistake starting Pedro again.

The Pirates acquired Akinori Iwamura for the Rays. It's a nice move for the Pirates, but won't have a tremendous impact on the amount of wins by the Pirates.

The mother of the second best pitcher to come out of the state of Nebraska, is probably going to jail.

Speaking of Bob Gibson, he says pitching on 3 days rest is no big deal.

Rattler Radio sees signs of progress in Appleton.

Answer: Who is Vicente Padilla. Question: What L.A. Dodger is the idiot of the day?

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This Apple holds all the Beatles material. I want that.

How much would "The Hangover" cost in real life? $4,825. That seems a little low to me.

If Mad Men met the Office.

Light Sabers? Yeah, they're cool. But when used by pandas, squirrels and Chuck Norris, they're AWESOME.

The 5 best & worst Monkey actors. Glad to see Clyde get some love. Sad to see Grape Ape on the worst list.

Slate looks at stupid people on the internet.

The most mind-warping thing you'll see all day

I close every Morning Coffee with a music video, here's one from Todd Snider about Dock Ellis of the Pirates no-hitting the Padres in June of 1970 on LSD. You can follow along with the lyrics here.



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Hmm

A guy named Tony writing for the CSU Fresno college newspaper pens a dumb story/post. These things come in cycles I guess.

Sign Corky Miller

by TheJay on Nov 4, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

If

You’ve ever been to Fresno, that post would not surprise you.

by backtocali on Nov 4, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, what school did Anthony Witrado go to?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I know he went to HS in Fresno

though I’m not sure if CSU Fresno and Fresno St are the same thing.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 4, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That one

Example bball writeup from his college days.

Sign Corky Miller

by TheJay on Nov 4, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

seth may want it kept quiet

that you’re scoring schwag from him. swag on the other hand, may be the word you’re looking for.

by goirish2107 on Nov 4, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I've

fixed that. See that bosses, it was Swag, not Schwag that was given to me by Seth McClung.

by DWalsh on Nov 4, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't make sense, anyway.

Seth makes a decent wage. He could afford something better than schwag.

by Rubie Q on Nov 4, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pizza

They need contact info on there. My list of the top:
1) Leonardo’s in Mequon
2) Lisa’s on the East side of Milwaukee (on oakland)
3) actually, I can’t think of a third, the rest are pretty much anywhere from mediocre to food poisoning. Gun to my head, Papa John’s would be the third option.

The worst:
1) Zaphiros on Farwell, Make me throw up on one occasion, shame on you. make throw up on the other 3 occasions I’ve eaten there, shame on my dumb ass
2) Calderone Club, green sausege not served on St. Patricks Day is not a good thing
3) Pistol Pete Pizza in Brookfield, 3 pounds of cheese is a good thing over the course of a month, not on a 14" pizza though.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 4, 2009 10:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd add

Pizza Man is a bit overrated. Palermo Villa just up the road is a nice little secret.

And since it’s 5 minutes from my house, Ricardo’s in Greendale has some great pizza.

by DWalsh on Nov 4, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Which one?

Old or new? I havent had them in a while, but the new one is not as good as the old, imo. But I stopped going to them because I felt that they both were slipping.

Riverfront/Ricardo’s are both goo, as is Ann’s in Hales Corners. Pizzeria Uno out in Brookfield is pretty good, its no Geno’s East, but its the only place in town to get Chicago Style.

by backtocali on Nov 4, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I'm not sure

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Best thin crust in the area

You have to travel a bit north, but Messina’s in Saukville.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pizza

Totally agree on Lisa’s Hyatt. That place rules.

Balistreri’s is good. The Bluemound one is OK, but the little one a bit NW from there in ’Tosa is the bomb.

Pizza Shuttle? The pizza isn’t great, but they have some great topping choices.

How about Maria’s on Forest Home? My dad used to take me there as a kid. Even if you don’t care for the pizza, and I remember it as being great, the place was decorated with christmas lights, pictures of Jesus, and pictures of Elvis. Sign me up.

Suppan, who has seen his ERA rise from 4.12 in his final year in St. Louis to 4.62 in 2007 and 4.96 last year, isn't an option in fantasy leagues - Rotoworld

by Adam P on Nov 4, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

admittedly, i'm not a veteran of pizza in milwaukee

But I have been to Pizza Shuttle, and I’d do that again in a heartbeat.

Also – thanks to Dan for doing a great job filling in today.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by KLSnow on Nov 4, 2009 4:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Rocky Rococos

is all I need

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm embarassed that I forgot Rockys

I must go to the corner and feel shame

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Nov 4, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no, sold it. my dad told me the guy works at costco now

and his happy there only having to work 40 hrs. the building was sold to tomaso’s (sp?) who is moving from the mequon location

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 4, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't tamaso's in cedarburg?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They had a fire a couple weeks ago.

Its already back up & running, though. Fixed ’er up real quick like.

Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.

The coolest motherfunker on the planet.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Nov 4, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sal’s and Romano’s in Cedarburg are better than Leonardo’s, IMO

Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.

The coolest motherfunker on the planet.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Nov 4, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sal's is great! Forget about them

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 4, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sal's is good

but not as good as the restaurant that was in the same building before them.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Juan Pierre

The man can get on base and be effective… the Brewers needed someone like that all year… And he plays hard…

My favorite moment of this last season…
   One of my best friend’s reaction (an Indian fan) to Prince’s grand slam early in the season in Cleveland…. Needless to say… he was not happy, while I was over joyed.

by Drew C on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee eateries

Anything on Farwell is generally overrated and overpriced, except George Webb, at 2 AM, after I’ve been drinking. As eatery sites go, www.milwaukeewings.com is glorious.

by Mr. McGehee on Nov 4, 2009 10:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Not a fan of Maharaja's?

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Nov 4, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maharaja is my favorite

Milwaukee seems to have good Indian food.

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cam

are we really not going to explore a Mike Cameron contract? is he really as good as gone? resigning Cam is pretty high on my wish list, and might be the most realistic thing on the wishlist as well. i just don’t think that Gerut will provide anywhere near the value that Cam will.

given the other uncertainties in the lineup and/or on the field (McGehee, Escobar, Hart, Weeks’s health), i’d like to plug in someone who will play above average defense in CF and post an .800 OPS while doing so, even for $10mm. Cam’s been worth far more than we’ve paid him in the last two years, and he’s been the model of consistency at the plate since he became a regular in 1999 with the Reds (posted an OPS between .774 and .837 every year, while accumulating less than 500 PAs only once, and that was after the freak injury when he collided w/ Beltran).

am i alone in this?

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No, you're not alone

I think most of us want him back, but not at $10 million. I think the most I’d pay for Cam is $7-8 million. But I definately want him back. You always know what you’re going to get with him.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

If a trade for Pierre were to happen, the Brewers would be paying $18.5MM through 2011, including $10MM next year alone.

by NoahJ on Nov 4, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

which is why I'm not if favor of getting Pierre

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd assume if Pierre were to be traded to Milwaukee

he’d be accompanied by crates and crates of cash.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 4, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or he would get Suppan's locker.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 4, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know if he's trustable in center anymore

which is a problem. His career is trending downward with a career .348 obp. I don’t know.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 4, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

meh.

his range would still be ok, but he’s got no arm.

also, he had his best year at the plate since 2004, but his BABIP was above league and career averages. he swung had lowest O-Swing% since 2005, but the weird thing about Pierre is that it seems his Contact% and Swing% correlate directly—whether this reflects an acute awareness of his own skills as he changes as a player, or is just a weird, meaningless coincidence, who knows.

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

different type of players.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it matters that they're different if they play the same position

I’d probably project Gerut better. And he’s already on our team for cheap.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 4, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying it's difficult to say which is better since they have different styles of play

Defensively, though, you’re right. It doesn’t make a difference. I wouldn’t mind having Pierre for depth, if nothing else. And really, the only way we’d think about taking him is if the Dodgers took on a majority of his contract, or if they took on Jeff Suppan.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's difficult

I would argue that Gerut is a better defender and probably will be better next season offensively as well. You can expect a higher average/more speed from Pierre but at the cost of more power from Gerut.

Considering the Brewers already have a Pierre-type hitter next season in Escobar, I don’t see how it makes any sense to have him on the team or play him over Gerut (even if the Dodgers theoretically ate almost all of his contract, which wouldn’t make sense for them to do because they might as well in that case just keep him on as a bench player)

WAR/dollar-wise, Fangraphs ranks Gerut’s 328 AB in 2008 as more valuable than any (full) season in Pierre’s career (though 2001 isn’t calculated)

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by SRB on Nov 4, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It is when you compare them to the same standards

Gerut has a better career wOBA and UZR/150 in center than Pierre.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 4, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the general consensus is that Cam would be welcomed back

But if he comes back, it’s probably at the cost of adding a SP.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly.

I’d love to have Cameron back, but I think DM & company are hell bent on SP and will take the loss of Cameron in exchange for better pitching.

by DWalsh on Nov 4, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But who's out there that they could spend a lot of money on

other than Lackey?

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

However

It’s interesting how poor the pitching was with a guy like Cameron roaming around in CF. Imagine how bad the pitching staff would have looked with a defensively below average CF out there.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually very curious about that

What would be the difference between Cameron and, say, Podsednik, defensively? (I’m assuming Scotty Po is no better than average defensively.) Is the gap between good centerfielder and bad centerfielder that significant, assuming both can field grounders that go up the middle and fairly routine fly balls?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 4, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, according to UZR

Since 2002, when they starting crunching the data, Cam has saved 5.2 runs per 150 games defensively above the average CF, though he saved 9.9 runs above average last year and 11.3 runs above average this year. His high is 14.7, in 2003.

So, to answer your question, the gap between a good centerfielder and an average one can be 15 runs, or 1.5 wins, in a given season, maybe even more, although it should be noted that a number that high involves no small amount of luck.

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by Lefti on Nov 4, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, to give a more extreme example

Franklin Gutierrez was 28.5 runs above an average CF this year. Again, we’ll see how much of that he can sustain, but I suppose it should be said that an elite defensive CF can be reasonably expected to add ~2 wins with his glove alone.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Nov 4, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cam will be back

I think him signing for 6 mil is realistic. If we don’t resign JK, there is nearly 9 mil free. Granted, that money won’t net an ace(except Sheets), I don’t think this staff is really in need of one. Trading JJ plus ptbnl should net a number 3 starter and the crew can land a number 2 type pitcher for 9 mil. Narveson should make a push, and maybe someone else can show good stuff(Here’s where I hope Chase Wright breaks out).

by Mr. McGehee on Nov 4, 2009 1:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Is there a number two type on the market?

There’s pretty much one ace (Lackey) and a bunch of “innings eaters.”

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and a bunch oft injured players

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Nov 4, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's the oft injured players that would make the good #1/2's

Sheets, Bedard, Harden

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Harden would be my top target if I was The Mustache

Not that he will be.

Welcome back, Doug Davis.

Sigh.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 5, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what do people think about Harden?

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see us make a push for him. But I think he'll end up being too pricey.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pavano?

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We already have Dave Bush

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Last year at this time

We were talking about needing to trade for a starter, given the paucity of decent starters available. A year later, and we’re probably in the same boat.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 4, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Same Boat

Same General Location of the Ocean.

Although, this year, spirits are much lower, and the weather is much gloomier, not having just come off of a playoff appearance.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My biggest concern

Is that people are going to hoard any decent pitching they have, to the point where they’d say “sure, I’d rather overpay Jack Wilson than trade for Hardy, if it’s going to cost me a #3 starter.”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 4, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that can be done

do you have photoshop and about 15 minutes?

"I've had the time of my afterlife." --Patrick Swayze

by baumann on Nov 4, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they could add the damage to the hotel room to the Hangover bill

Aaah that’s an awesome movie.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't The Hangover rated R?

Did you pretend you were going to see Up and sneak into The Hangover instead?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Nov 5, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A few people I went with had to do this and/or had an in with the ticket clerk

You actually only have to be 17 to get in to R-rated movies, though.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs


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