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Tuesday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while not getting what you hoped for.

The Brewers have until 11 pm tonight to finalize their plan to offer or decline arbitration to five free agents, and while Tom H. seems to think the Brewers will extend an offer to Felipe Lopez, Adam McCalvy is reporting the team is "leaning against" making the offer to any of the five (FanShot).

All of this is another episode in the "Doug Melvin Moments" series I think most of us are getting increasingly sick of. Doug, we get it. Times are tough for the ever-so-downtrodden small-to-mid market GM with the job many of us would kill for. If the system is really so unbearable, you're welcome to quit and be replaced by someone who will spend more time working with the tools they have and less time bitching about the ones they don't.

Assuming Melvin does eventually get off his soapbox and get back to the task of improving the team, Wisconsin Sports Tap has a guide for prospective new Brewers that can help them avoid becoming the next Jeff Suppan, Bill Hall or Johnny Estrada.

With that said, it might be a while before we have news on Mark Mulder. Roguejim uncovered a story yesterday that sheds some light on Mulder's rehab and situation, and raises the possibility that Mulder will decide not to come back if he's unable to perform at a level he's accustomed to.

We're also probably just about done discussing Kevin Millwood. Rangers beat reporter T.R. Sullivan had this to say about the rumors:

The Rangers wouldn't mind adding pitching but they don't want to subtract it so they are not trying to move Kevin Millwood. Word is the Brewers were interested but Rangers general manager Jon Daniels and Doug Melvin haven't spoke in weeks, That might change at the Winter Meetings but the Rangers still need Millwood's arm far more than they need to move his salary.

Adam McCalvy opened up the mailbag yesterday and answered reader questions on the possibility of a Prince Fielder extension, Dominican prospect Santo Aybar, Lorenzo Cain and Caleb Gindl.

Elsewhere in the minors:

  • Lisa Winston of MiLB.com has a review of the season for the Brewer minor leagues, and a look at the attempt to build pitching depth in the system.
  • Project Prospect has Jonathan Lucroy ranked ninth on their list of baseball's top 15 catching prospects. Angel Salome was not ranked.
  • The Baseball Chronicle has Alcides Escobar as a backup infielder on their 2010 All Prospect Team. Escobar is on the bench behind Rays prospect Reid Brignac and Cubs SS prospect Starlin Castro, who is playing out of position at second base.
  • Rattler Radio has photos of the construction at Time Warner Field, where they're hard at work adding the new beach seats, boardwalk and bullpens.

Up for some arbitrary list-making today? Miller Park Drunk has a list of the top ten Brewers of the decade. It's worth a click for the picture, if nothing else.

John Axford might have an outside shot at winning a spot in the Brewer bullpen next spring, depending on how rest of the offseason goes. In the meantime, he spent yesterday talking to college students about life in the big leagues and the importance of education.

On the transaction log:

Cardinals: Re-signed catcher Jason LaRue and signed infielder Ruben Gotay to a minor league deal.
Mets: Signed catcher Chris Coste, and re-signed infielder Alex Cora to a one year deal worth $2 million.
Pirates: Signed reliever Wil Ledezma to a minor league deal and released catcher Robinzon Diaz.

Wondering what it might take for the Brewers to acquire Edwin Jackson? Here's a hint: The Mariners reportedly turned down an offer from the Tigers would have sent Jackson to Seattle for pitchers Brandon Morrow and Shawn Kelley. So apparently the price is pretty high.

If the Brewers are serious about making an effort to sign Justin Duchscherer, they may have competition within the division: MLB Trade Rumors says the Pirates are one of the interested teams.

The Brewers probably won't be players in the Roy Halladay sweepstakes, but odds are the competition will heat up soon. Halladay has reportedly told the Blue Jays he won't accept any deal after reporting to spring training in February.

With the Winter Meetings coming up, we have more Rule 5 Draft notes: Baseball Time In Arlington has a look at the top ten unprotected pitchers, including former Brewer farmhand Will Inman.

Yesterday I mentioned the voting for the third baseman on the Timber Rattlers' 15th Anniversary team, and left a comment on Rattler Radio asking about the fate of top contender Bo Robinson, who had a few promising seasons in the Mariner organization before dropping off the map in 2002. Within 24 hours the answer was the subject of this week's Mehring Monday. Impressive turnaround time, to be sure.

I'm a few days behind on this one, but I recently discovered Cooperstown Chatter, the MLBlog run by the Baseball Hall of Fame, and this post on Rollie Fingers' 1981 MVP season. It's almost as impressive as Matt Stairs having a street named after him in Fredericton, New Brunswick.

By the way, if you've ever been to the Baseball Hall of Fame, or you haven't but would like to go someday, you can become a fan on Facebook. As an added bonus, Facebook fans get to help in the voting for this year's broadcaster induction.

On this day in 1967, Seattle was awarded an American League expansion franchise. I guess that makes today the Brewers' date of conception?

Happy birthday today to Tom Filer, who posted a 4.32 ERA in 39 appearances as a Brewer during the '88-'90 seasons and turns 53, and to Julio Machado, who spent parts of the 1990 and 1991 seasons as a Brewer before being arrested for murder in Venezuela. He turns 44.

Oh, and I haven't actually watched it yet (no sound on the computer where I write the Mug), but this video has Rammstein and Cookie Monster, so what could possibly go wrong?

Drink up.

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Rockies are throwing their hat into the Duchscherer sweepstakes

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Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

Really, like the Pirates count

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

They would if they shutdown the Pittsburgh franchise and an expansion team came into the scene, playing elsewhere, with that as their team name.

PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 Minutes for Deking a Duper Deke that made a Duper Duck.

by Lavender on Dec 1, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Showcase Showdown is probably the better description

For all of our sakes, I hope Dusche is the first, crappier showcase that you always pass to the other sucker so you can get the sweet one with the car, vacation and PWC.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Dec 1, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It makes for some excellent viewing

when the contestant passes on the first showcase, and they show the guy/gal who passed on it, and the camera catches that moment of “Oh, s#!t,” when the first item in the second showcase is, like, a trip to a potato farm in Idaho.

by Rubie Q on Dec 1, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

The car and the vacation are never together

It’s always a trip combined with a living/dining/bedroom set. Pass on the trip.. the plane leaves from california, anyway.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

MLBTR

predicts that FeLo will be offered arbitration, and the rest of the eligible Brewers won’t. Frankly, I think Cameron should be offered arby too, as I think it’s unlikely he’ll accept, but I can see Melvin not wanting to take the risk.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

More on Cameron

From ESPN Insider (courtesy of Rotoworld):

Free agent outfielder Mike Cameron told ESPN.com’s Buster Olney this week that he wants to play for a contender in 2010.
Cameron hit .250 with 24 home runs, 32 doubles and a .795 OPS in 544 at-bats this season for the Brewers. “I feel like I can still play one of the better center fields in the game,” he said. “I feel like I can play with the best of them. … I’m just trying to get in the right spot to get in the playoffs.” Olney suggests the Braves, Yankees, Mets or Rangers might be a good fit.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

Edwin Jackson's cost

First time poster,

Love the daily brew, just wanted to point out that the Tweet said the Tigers asked for Morrow and Shawn Kelley but the Mariners turned them down.

Thanks again for feeding my Brewers fix on a daily basis.

by The_Ignitor on Dec 1, 2009 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

Updated post.

Welcome, and thanks for the correction.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 1, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I just got an e-mail

asking me to “Become a Member of the Major League Baseball Players Alumni Association”

I wasn’t aware I used to play in the majors. Huh.

by Mykenk on Dec 1, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

Maybe you used to pitch?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently I used to play too

I just got the same email

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 1, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

She's in there with a triple!

Boy, did she smack that one on the kisser. No wonder they call her “All the Way” Mae.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

How can you jerks not remember our season of championship back in 1994

by SgtClueLs on Dec 1, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Funny

Anthony Witrado got that email, too.

by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 1, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

i joined last year

i got some car discounts i didn’t use, a bag, and a shirt. i joined solely for the purpose of getting them to arrange some signings for me (you send them a ball, and if mike caldwell is in their database, you’ll get it back in the mail – obviously you can do this without joining, it just seemed easier).

of course i never sent anything in to get signed. so much for that.

by Capt Science on Dec 1, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Throwing it out there.

Free agent catcher Gregg Zaun did an interview with Canada’s The Sports Network (hat tip to DRays Bay). Asked when we’ll hear news of his signing, Zaun replied:

It’ll be done before the end of this week, before the Winter Meetings. All I can say right now is there is more than one club involved and not all of them are in the American League.

Today we’ll learn whether Zaun, a Type B free agent, is offered arbitration by the Rays. My guess is they won’t, mainly because they already turned down his $2MM club option. Where do you think Zaun will land? The Blue Jays, Royals, Mariners, Giants, Astros, Nationals, and Mets might consider offering up a starting job.

by Mykenk on Dec 1, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

I've always thought he might be an option for the Brewers next year

At his age I don’t know how he would play as many games a typical starting catcher would, but if the Brewers were going to bring Lucroy up (or use a guy like Kottaras), Zaun would be a nice option to split time with since he is a switch-hitter.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Dec 1, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Zaun won't go to the Phillies

They signed Brian Schneider to a 5 year $55M deal* with a mutual option for a 6th year.

*Actually signed to a 2yr deal totaling $2.75M

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Dec 1, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

2010 roster possibilities...

1st – Prince Fielder/Mike Rivera
2nd – Felipe López/Craig Counsell/Hernan Iribarren
SS – Alcides Escobar/Craig Counsell/Hernan Iribarren
3rd – Casey McGehee/Craig Counsell/Adam Heether
C – Jonathan Lucroy/Mike Rivera/George Kottaras
LF – Ryan Braun
CF – Carlos Gómez/Jody Gerut
RF – Mat Gamel/Jody Gerut

Starters:

Yovani Gallardo
Sheets or someone close
Manny Parra
Dave Bush
Capuano or someone close

Bullpen:

CL – Trevor Hoffman
8th – Claudio Vargas
7th – Todd Coffey
LHS – Mitch Stetter (left hand specialist)
LRL – Chris Narveson (long relief/spot start)

Mark DiFelice
Chris Smith

Maybes:

Seth McClung
David Riske
Carlos Villanueva
John Axford

Trade Weeks and Hart for pitching (hopefully a starter) and trade Suppan for a prospect and eat most of his contract. If you do the math we’d still be under last years $$$ (depending on arbitration and who we trade for). We’d need to put a few of the guys on IR and might need one more OF, but this could work. We don’t need Weeks horrible defense at 2nd and starting Gamel in RF could get him used to that side of the field if he would ever switch to 1st. Our bullpen was solid last year, so don’t make too much of a mess over there. Any thoughts?

by Braski on Dec 1, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

Like Don Money always says,

The best way to prepare a player for 1st base is by putting him in Right Field.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

"We don't need Weeks horrible defense at 2nd"

Lopez is a significantly worse defender than Weeks, and over his whole career a worse and more inconsistent offensive player as well.

I’m not sure why anyone would want Lopez over Weeks, especially given the way Weeks was playing before he got injured last season.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Dec 1, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel much more confident in Lopez

than I do in Weeks coming off the wrist injury. I think he’s going to struggle mightily in the first half, especially with power.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Lopez over Weeks

Weeks career FPCT (all at 2nd) = .964
López career FPCT at 2nd = .980

Not sure where you are getting “Lopez is a significantly worse defender than Weeks”. Offensively they are quite similar:

(L) Career 1024 3805 536 1025 197 30 80 391 393 797 115 55 .269 .338 .400 .738
(W) Career 482 1762 334 435 77 20 60 182 227 464 80 16 .247 .351 .415 .767

Weeks started off hot, but that doesn’t mean much for 1/4 of a season. Now he is coming off an injury, and that doesn’t always work out well. I think the tipping point is that Lopez might be cheaper in the long run, is statistically better defensively despite SRB’s opinion and we can still get some value in a Weeks trade. The Brewers will likely send an offer to Lopez anyway in case someone wants to give us their high draft pick and match our offer.

by Braski on Dec 1, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Looking at the numbers (UZR/150) I have to concede that Lopez has actually been better defensively at 2B. I was conflating my memory of him as one of the most atrocious defensive shortstops in the league (for most of his career) with him being a poor 2B.

That said, half of his career games at 2B came last year when he was having an all-around uncharacteristically good season. In 2008 at 2B his defense was back down in the realm of Weeks-bad. I don’t have much confidence in him as a defender going forward.

And Weeks is much better offensively even given his struggles with injury and inconsistancy. Consider Lopez’s wOBA the two years prior to last season: .320 (2008) and .295 (2007), and his career wOBA: .325 – Weeks has never posted a wOBA as low as Lopez’s career line, not even in his rookie season, and over the past three years has had two .365 seasons and only shown signs of improving.

Weeks is one of the most exciting players on the team going into next year potential-wise (for me at least), Lopez is a guy who had a career year and will be way overpaid in 2010 before he regresses to his career levels (both defensively and offensively)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Dec 1, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

well put SRB...

I think the only variables now are:

1) Will Lopez actually get overpaid?
2) Will someone match our offer and give us a decent 2nd rounder?
3) Would anyone trade a good starting pitcher for Weeks/Hart (a solid 2 or 3 guy)?

I just know something needs to happen with our rotation and we don’t have much to offer!

by Braski on Dec 1, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

They don't have to give up a pick

There’s a pool of picks for the “supplemental round” of the draft, which is sandwiched between the 1st and 2nd rounds. When a Type B (Lopez) free agent is signed, the team that loses the player (Brewers) get a draft pick from that pool. The pick is basically invented for the team, it is not taken from another team.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

But it can be anyone left in the draft, correct?

Not like the NFL supplemental draft where the guys can’t do anything else (except free agency)?

by Braski on Dec 1, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like they're adding a round to the actual draft

between the 1st and second round. Think of it as being picks added to the 1st round of the draft. So yeah, they can take anyone who has not yet been taken.

This is why this was a horrible move. We essentially passed on a pretty high draft pick.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

No team is going to want Weeks

Or at least no team is going to give up pitching for him. Right now, coming off another injury and being very inconsistent and injury-prone his entire career, he is a complete questionmark for other teams.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 1, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I believe Vargas is an FA...

but he should fit our budget. Plus we were so good to him the other year…oh, that’s right we dumped him. There’s some sort of IR in MLB, not sure if it is like the NBA. Plus a few guys have options left.

by Braski on Dec 1, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

15-Day and 60-Day Disabled Lists.

It’s essentially the same concept in that it opens up a roster spot.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Either way, in MLB you still have to pay your players if they get hurt

whether they’re on the DL or not.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Doug dropped the ball.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 1, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

I hope today doesn't indicate the rest of the 2010 season

I just got home from work and turned on ESPN Deportes, and the first thing I see is John Halama getting pulled (and not looking happy about it) in favor of Luis Perdomo. BTW, Perdomo runs in from the ‘pen, but not as fast as Coffey. Halama is one old-lookin’ white guy.

by morineko on Dec 1, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

and also!

This Evan MacLane wot is pitching for Estrellas Orientales is a free agent lefty pitcher. He’s pitching slightly better than Halama. Whoops. (Also Lindsay Gulin is on their roster, but we know what he does, that is walks everybody)

by morineko on Dec 1, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Not so!

He might spit on you if he gets mad.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 2, 2009 12:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I know

I was just wondering at my bad luck—the Brewers sign a guy and my first view of him is of him getting pulled from a close game.

by morineko on Dec 2, 2009 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

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