Who will/should repace DM?
by Saberilliterate on Dec 1, 2009 7:20 PM CST
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Now that DM has declined to offer arbitration to any of the Crew's free agents I have a funny feeling that the Fire Doug Melvin bandwagon will need a few extra cars to hold all of the people jumping on it.
Just as the question was posed when as the fire Ned Yost bandwagon was filling up, it is only fair to ask the same question of those jumping on the Fire the Canadian Mustache Bandwagon. Who should replace Doug Melvin?
We obviously missed the chance to have Jack Z. I don't see anyone else in the organization to promote from within. Sorry - Gord Ash doesn't really do it for me. So who would you bring in for interviews?
I don't have enough knowledge to start the list of interviewees. The only names that come to mind for interviews would be Paul DePesto and Kim Ng of the Dodgers and maybe someone from the Theo Epstein tree. Baseball Prospectus has a list from June 2008 of their Top 10
I do have enough to start the 'Do Not Interview' list.
Do not Interview
- JP Riccardi
- Ned Yost
- Steve Phillips
- Jim Bowden
I would really like to see someone who knows what a database and excel spreadsheet is and maybe even how to use them.
Who is on your 'Do Not Interview' list?
Who is on your 'Interview' list?
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Ned Yost as GM would almost be too funny to pass up.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Dec 1, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Mrs. McCourt
duh.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Megan Fox
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Dec 1, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Do Interview
Ben Cherington or Jason McLeod of the Red Sox
Chris Antonetti of the Indians
Bill Gievett of the Rockies
Dan Jennings of the Marlins
Rob Antony of the Twins
Chuck LaMar of the Phillies
Dan Feinstein of the Rays
All have played big roles in building successful organizations.
That's a good one.
"Since baseball is my favorite sport, it's easy to go out and do what I do." --Patrick Swayze
For contet on how awesome Blengino is, he
directly referenced one of the authors of the SBN Mariners blog, Lookout Landing.
Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with him and advocated that he be made the director of scouting here when Jack Z left
I also read LL on a pretty much daily basis. He’s unbelievable, and he’s about the only person I can think of that I’d immediately dump DM for.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
This Website's community
I think we would do a very solid job.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
this. though, I vote no Backtocali
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by Michael M on Dec 1, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
idk
he’d be a good asset to bounce ideas off of. He’s usually good for a difference of opinion.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Thanks Man
I’m definitely not a “yes” man.
Part of the reason I love the way the Red Sox run their organization. There are stories out there about how Theo Epstein wont make a decision on things until he consults with his advisors first (much like Obama), and usually likes to hear an opposing view before making that choice.
Virtually unlimited funds makes decision making easier too.
not that he hasn’t made smart decisions, just that he probably doesn’t have to stress about messing up as much as a smaller market GM does.
Yeah it’s nice to be able to give Mike Lowell $12M a year and Dice-K $100M for 6 years and not have to worry if they don’t work out.
Get a ife broseph
I think there's always a worry, there.
Because messing things up means the difference between winning a championship and getting knocked out of the first round of the playoffs. The thing is, the expectations are so much higher over there, that he still has to worry about messing things up to the point where his team doesn’t make the World Series.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
And I certainly wouldn't fire Melvin just to fire him
I think he’s a middle-tier MLB gm, but if an upgrade is available I wouldn’t be against it.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Yes
I agree with you that he is a mid tier GM and that there is no point in firing him just to fire him.
I also come of the opinion that no one is perfect and a few mistakes are permissible/excusable. However – the Hardy/Gomez trade and now the decision to NOT offer arby to anyone are a couple of bigger mistakes that are hard to overlook. Combine that with the $20M on the books in 2010 for Suppan & Hall really question whether he is the guy to maintain a winning (and not whining) environment in Milwaukee.
He has made one superstar move in Milwaukee – the Richie Sexson trade. Otherwise – a few bad ones and a lot of mediocrity.
The point of the post is not whether or not to fire him (after all there is an entire site dedicated to that), but rather, is there an upgrade available that is hire-able, and a relative sure thing to do no further damage? I think that almost everyone can agree that things could be worse – we could of had JP Riccardi, Steve Philips or Dean Taylor. But IF he is fired – who is the superstar that can deal with being a low to mid-budget team and still maintain a winning atmosphere year in and year out instead of whining about being small market while making some really bone headed moves that otherwise could have helped overcome the challenge of Milwaukee’s market size.
by Saberilliterate on Dec 2, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions
Now that's something I can get behind
Seems to explain most of his decisions, and perhaps I’ll run with that idea at fdm.com
If you really want to run wild with it
This was always going to be his last GM job in baseball. Either he bombed and wound up with an assistant GM job somewhere or he restored the franchise to winning ways. Ideally, a championship or deep playoff run would have resulted but que sera, sera. Now that the team has gotten to .500+, he has received accolades for improving the franchise from its previous moribund state and his GM wizardry cred is high. Unfortunately, the team lacks pitching, an Achilles heel that could cause him to lose that. But if he can keep the team afloat for another season or two around .500, maybe get lucky and wind up with 85 wins or even another playoff appearance, he can retire with reputation intact, blame the system for not allowing him to do a better job, and dole out sage advice as a coveted consultant. That’s why it’s supremely important to pass on anything (like arbitration to free agents) that could risk taking money away from the pursuit of whatever ho-hum free agent pitching might get another couple wins this year.
I’m not cynical enough to actually believe all of that and there are holes in it, but it’s a nice story.
by TheJay on Dec 2, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This makes no sense
How is offering arbitration to Lopez a move towards winning in 2010?
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Dec 2, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Then what is your point?
Melvin only cares about maintaining his image and keeping up the appearance of trying to win, but he really doesn’t care about winning (he’s just “trying not to lose”)? How exactly does the Lopez decision play into that conspiracy theory; if the criticism is that he forfeited a supplemental pick in order to sign more short-term players, then that’s exactly the kind of move one would make if one were actively seriously about winning in the next couple years.
What is your alternative scenario for a GM “trying to win”, he gives arbitration to Lopez for the supplemental pick, with the possibility of Lopez accepting, and then takes out his magic pocketbook and signs John Lackey and every other top free agent starter?
If so, I think you have a really unrealistic image of what any GM would do and more importantly of what Doug Melvin is capable of doing given the situation he has.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Dec 2, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Offer arbitration, accept the low risk it's accepted and deal with the fact you have another asset if it is
Passing on it to save the money you most likely would have saved anyway because you want to sign some middling free agent to get another win or two (drive for 84?) next year is exactly what a GM trying not to lose does.
If there’s no way to improve beyond that in 2010, then go all in for 2011 and beyond.
I guess we just have divergent opinions of the Brewers’ chances in 2010. I think the free agent starters are out there to sufficiently improve the rotation as to make the team an offseason contender – free agents that couldn’t be signed if Lopez accepted arbitration. And in that respect I have yet to see how Melvin isn’t actively trying to win.
Then again, it could become a moot point if he does something idiotic like spend all of the available payroll space on Jarrod Washburn or somebody.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Dec 2, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
If John Lackey or Eric Bedard stayed healthy for an entire season with the Brewers,
We’d be in the playoffs.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
“But IF he is fired – who is the superstar that can deal with being a low to mid-budget team and still maintain a winning atmosphere year in and year out instead of whining about being small market while making some really bone headed moves that otherwise could have helped overcome the challenge of Milwaukee’s market size?”
Megan Fox, I tell you.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
FWIW
The Sabathia trade was a pretty good move, too.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 2, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
"We're going for it"
Jeez, a bigger PR orchestration Milwaukee has never seen.
It worked, though.
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
I will defend that move forever.
It was the right call.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I'd hire The Jay
Seems like a slam-dunk to me.
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 2, 2009 7:54 AM CST reply actions
No nerds in the FO please
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 2, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if people on this site think I stay home on Friday nights and solve complex mathematical equations.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
If you don't do that by yourself,
I assume you stay home and watch someone do just that in Good Will Hunting.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
What, you don't?
Does that make ME a nerd then?
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
We're regular commenters on a sports blog
Arguing about whether or not we’re nerds?
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 2, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Dec 2, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
The best part is that math is by far my least favorite subject area, yet apparently I'm the math guy
I do like that TheJay said “analysis folks”
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Dec 2, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Same here, in regards to math.
Though I would say that I dislike Biology more. Thank god I shouldn’t have to take anything like that again.
I must confess...
I have thought DM should have been DFA’d long ago… It is somewhat weird to me that his Lopez Arby event, is what was needed to get traction on removing this boob.
I suppose you have to take what you can get.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Dec 2, 2009 9:14 AM CST reply actions
I think it’s too early to say not offering arby to Lopez was a terrible move. If Lopez sits out there and doesn’t get many offers coming his way, this may have been the right move.
That being said, I would have liked to have seen arby be offered. Either draft pick comp, a valuable, yet expensive backup or trade bait.
If Lopez sits out there for a while, it means he's looking for a bigger deal than he would have gotten through arbitration
Therefore he would have declined our offer.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I think
DM’s been a little gunshy about offering arby since the whole Graffanino incident.
Which is kind of odd ...
since it was a good thing we had Graffy on the roster in ’07 when Weeks went in the tank in June/July.
He seems to have changed views on the compensation thing.
I remember him being really excited about bringing Linebrink in because even if we coudln’t bring him back, we’d get 2 draft picks for him. I think the CC situation left him feeling pretty bitter and scorned.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Yep, I think you're right.
And I really, really, really hope he’s not making decisions like the one re: FeLo because he’s pissed that the system dicked him over last year.
Paul DePodesta?
Ned Coletti ran him out of town, so that’s a good sign.
"Since baseball is my favorite sport, it's easy to go out and do what I do." --Patrick Swayze
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