Making Your '00 Face: Third Base
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 10, 2009 4:00 PM CST
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PrintWith the '00's almost behind us, it's time to take a look back and work together to make a BCB All Decade team for the '00s. Each day, we'll tackle a new position, and we'll have our 25 man roster complete sometime around the 1st of the year.
The concept here is pretty simple. Each day, I'll give you a list of candidates: For position players, it's the full list of players who appeared in at least 100 games at the position during the '00s. Here are the players we've selected so far:
First Base: Prince Fielder
Second Base: Rickie Weeks
Voting for shortstops opened yesterday and will close at 4 pm tomorrow. Meanwhile, we'll close out the infield. Here are the candidates at third base:
Tyler Houston
Seasons as a Brewer: 3, 2000-2002
Slash line as a Brewer: .279/.326/.475
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: -5.4 runs*
WAR as a Brewer: 1.8
*- FanGraphs only has UZR data dating back to 2002, so only Houston's 2002 season is included in this total.
Seasons as a Brewer: 3, 2002-2005
Slash line as a Brewer: .257/.344/.458
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: -11 runs
WAR as a Brewer: 3.1
Seasons as a Brewer: 8, 2002-2009*
Slash line as a Brewer: .253/.312/.446
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: +8.7 runs
WAR as a Brewer: 7.3
* - Hall played third base in seven of those eight seasons, all but 2007.
Seasons as a Brewer: 3, 2003-2005
Slash line as a Brewer: ..268/.335/.425
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: -24.6 runs
WAR as a Brewer: -1.1
Seasons as a Brewer: 3, 2004-2005, 2008
Slash line as a Brewer: ..248/.351/.526
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: -9.1 runs
WAR as a Brewer: 1.7
Seasons as a Brewer: 4, 2004, 2007-2009
Slash line as a Brewer: .247/.341/.338
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: +8.5 runs
WAR as a Brewer: 5
Ryan Braun
Seasons as a Brewer: 3, 2007-2009*
Slash line as a Brewer: .308/.363/.574
UZR (Fielding) as a Brewer: -23.7 runs
WAR as a Brewer: 9.7**
* - Braun only played third base in 2007.
** - Only 1.5 of those WAR came in 2007, when Braun was at third.
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God, I hate Wes Helms
Voted for Wm. E Hall
Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.
The coolest motherfunker on the planet.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 10, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions
likewise
couldn’t bring myself to vote for hall. so RB or CC. RB won.
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 10, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
RB being branyan, not braun
for those scoring at home.
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 10, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure how to handle that.
I think he’d probably have to be pulled off the ballot for the outfield. Hopefully it won’t be an issue.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I think you should break it out by seasons at each position if simple
Granted, that would suck for Hall & Ginter, but for a guy like Braun it’s pretty straightforward.
Why is Laporta not an option here?
The man played every position for god’s sake.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
TYLER HOUSTON!!!
that guy was awesome.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Am I mistaken
But I could have sworn Koskie played third for 2 seasons?
Speaking of this
how different would things (possibly) have been had he not sufferred that concussion?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 11, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
Well, the concept of the "All Decade Team" is nebulous.
Are we picking the player who had the best tenure at the position, or the best single year? Because that would make Hall much more palatable.
Also, I am in favor of the Braun at 3B and Braun in LF situation. That’s a potent heart of the order along with Fielder.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
For those still to vote
Please consider July 27, 2004 when Russell Branyan hit the longest home run in Miller Parks history at 480 feet which I have been trying to find a video for but cannot.
Well
that’s when we actually had good players. Its pretty slim pickins from 2000-2004
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 10, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
I wanted to vote for the Muscle
but I voted for Billy in the end
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
TWSS
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 10, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
TWSS
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 11, 2009 6:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't brave enough to try that one
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 11, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
I guess..
TWSS
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 11, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you didn't vote for Branyan you should be filled with shame
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions
So these votes...
are for best player at position, or most representative for the decade?
I cast my vote for Big Wes, since I believe his time at 3B in Milwaukee laid the foundation for his 9/28/2008 home run that helped propel the Brewers to the playoffs. Somehow, karma lined up just right (and just enough) to make that go-ahead HR at Shea possible.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
I'm letting people create their own definition of what an All Decade Team should be.
Whether it’s longevity, peak value, representative of the decade, etc. I’m just supplying what I see as every possible candidate and letting you decide how to vote on it.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
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