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I don't know much about him and I'm busy working on the Mug, so hopefully someone can fill you in on the details in the comments.

about 2 years ago Newavatar_tiny Kyle Lobner 30 comments 0 recs  | 

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I think he tours with Bruce Springsteen

BA’s Ben Badler tweets that he’s “interesting guy to stash in the bullpen.”

Fangraphs, BR, MiLB, Splits

From MiLB:

Selected by the Cleveland Indians out of Junipero Serra High School (San Mateo, Calif.) in the fourth round (No. 107 overall) of the June 2004 First-Year Player Draft…signed July 7…attended the same high school as Barry Bonds, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, and pro football Hall of Famer Lynn Swann…

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 10, 2009 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

From the BA Prospects Blog
Chuck Lofgren is one of the best stories taken. In 2007 he started the Futures Game for the U.S. team in his hometown of San Francisco, and he’s a physical, athletic lefthander. He’s had massive control issues the last two years and his star obviously has fallen from when he ranked second on our Indians Top 10.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Dec 10, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply actions  

Seems like an interesting pick...

Indians Prospect Insider has a solid scouting report complete with some videos:

Strengths & Opportunities: Lofgren was once considered one of the top left-handed pitching prospects in all the minors, but his performance the last two years no longer puts him in that class. He is a physical starting pitcher who has a good four-pitch mix led by a fastball that sits at 90-93 MPH and has topped out as high as 95 MPH in the past. In addition to the fastball, he also throws a slow curveball that tops out at around 75 MPH and a changeup and slider which sit in the low 80s. He possesses one of the best swing-and-miss fastball statistics in the Indians system, which is heavily influenced by the deception in his delivery.

"My plan is my plan," Yost said.

by TAPmoney on Dec 10, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

I stand corrected

Here I was saying they wouldn’t pick anyone because of the developing roster crunch (and other reasons over the past week). I guess it pays not to officially sign Wolf, Hawkins, etc. until next week.

by TheJay on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 AM CST reply actions  

It'll be interesting to see how (if) they use him

Although he’s a lefty, I don’t think he’s a LOOGY kind of pitcher.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 10, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

He's a LOOGY says MLB.com

Link

Chuck Lofgren, LHP, Indians: Speaking of possible lefty specialists, Lofgren might fit that bill even though he’s spent most of his pro career as a starter. He pitched extremely well in Double-A to start the year, but scuffled a bit over 17 Triple-A starts. But the numbers that might stand out to a team are 19-for-106. That’s what left-handed hitters managed against Lofgren, which translates to a .179 average.

"My plan is my plan," Yost said.

by TAPmoney on Dec 10, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Like I said

He has LOOGY written all over him.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

What is

A loogy? You kids and your new-fangled words, I can’t keep up.

by nullacct on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

haha

I always forget what the Y stands for

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 10, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I always thought it was Lefty One Out Guy. Yeah.

huh

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Dec 10, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Here.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

Fun word for it, I like it. Thanks!

by nullacct on Dec 10, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Might use him for AAA SP depth...

…if he doesn’t make the 25 man and a deal can be worked out with the Indians.

by infield fly on Dec 10, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

He's left handed and throws 90+

If the Brewers have to offer him back to the Indians for next to nothing, I’m pretty sure they’ll take him.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 10, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

He was listed as one of the most Overrated Pitching Prospects

Baseball Intellect has a nice rundown of his flaws, including video.

There are several reservations I have about Lofgren:

His K-rate was slighly above average last year and has dropped each and every season since beginning pro ball, so I do question his ability to miss enough bats at the big league level.

His control has also been inconsistent throughout his minor league career:

BB/9
2004 – 5.24
2005 – 4.16
2006 – 3.48
2007 – 4.18

It should be noted how he has improved over time, but last year he regressed. He was only slightly above league average in his best year. The last thing you want is mediocre control to go along with a lack of ability to miss bats.

I’ve seen reports that have called Lofgren’s command excellent (granted this was before last year), but the numbers at the time suggested Lofgren’s command was only decent. The numbers now indicate sub-par command.

Lofgren hasn’t demonstrated a plus skill in terms of missin bats or control/command, but perhaps he keeps the ball on the ground? Not the case. His GB% was 40% and 42% the last two years, so he is a fly ball pitcher as well. Fly ball pitchers with average K rates and averge control don’t typically do well in the majors.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Dec 10, 2009 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

Found an old scouting report from when he was being drafted
Chuck Lofgren, lhp/of

Scouts are divided on whether Lofgren will be drafted as a hitter or pitcher. Teams have gone back and forth on him all spring. Most scouts saw him as a hitter at the start of the year and turned him in as a potential first-rounder. Some even thought he was the surest bet of all the high school players in this year’s draft to hit in the big leagues, and said he could hit 35-40 homers a year. They saw juice in his bat and a solid approach at the plate. He was frequently pitched around, however, and he began to swing at bad pitches. He tried to do too much and his frustration got the better of him. He struggled to hit .250 and sentiment moved to the mound, where scouts saw a 6-foot-4, 200-pounder with a power arm, capable of pitching at 88-92 mph and touching 93-94. They also saw a high-maintenance delivery, an inconsistent curveball and a tendency to lose velocity quickly. The general feeling now is that Lofgren’s higher upside is as a position player, even though he’s an average runner and projects only as a left fielder. He finished the year with a .343 average, but only three homers. Lofgren, a Santa Clara signee, would play both ways in college but has expressed a preference to begin his pro career.

Also, here’s the list of the best HS power hitters going into the ’04 draft:

High School
1 Billy Butler, 1b, Jacksonville
2 John Poterson, c, Chandler, Ariz.
3 Neil Walker, c, Gibsonia, Pa. (14)
4 Chuck Lofgren, of, Burlingame, Calif. (62)
5 Brandon Allen, 1b, Montgomery, Texas (85)

Chuck Lofgren (Serra High, Barry Bonds’ alma mater in San Mateo, Calif.) and Neil Walker (Gibsonia, Pa.) also could push themselves into the first round by June. Lofgren, an outfielder/lefthanded pitcher, is a safer bet to hit than Golson or Fowler but started slowly this spring

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Dec 10, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

Sweet. Brooks Kieschnik 2.0

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on Dec 10, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Or Rick Ankiel

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I would prefer Johan Santana 2.0

But I think those would be pretty long odds.

by NoahJ on Dec 10, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Most likely, Manny Parra 2.0

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Dec 10, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

not if thats just his highschool projection and he hasnt worked on it at all in the majors

by Jeo on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

This the guy?? Yes? NO?

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Dec 10, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

nope, that guy is a righty

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Dec 10, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard to argue with this

Sounds like he’s got decent upside for a Rule 5 pick.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Dec 10, 2009 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

I saw Lofgren in HS

I live and coach some HS ball in San Jose. He was an absolute stud in a very competitive area. One of the notes above said he was pitched around in HS…..that is the understatement of the year. When teams did pitch to him (only if there was no one on base), often they moved their 3b to OF and played with 4 OF.

He was also a stud pitcher who dominated most of the time. I suspect most HS draftees dominated in HS and I would not profess any qualification to project MLB potential. But I can say that every time I saw him throw there were 20+ radar guns behind homeplate. So there were a bunch of people who thought (think) he has the stuff.

I followed him for a while in the minors and he was doing well. It could be that he only had one or two pitches (thus reliever material). Or it could be that he is young and was challenged for the first time at the upper levels of minors.

$50,000 is pretty cheap to see if he has the stuff to at least be a reliever for a team without many arms in the minors.

by jimf on Dec 10, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

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