Counsell re-signed
1 year, $2.1M, bonuses up to $500k additional.
Wolf official also, makes $9.25M in 2010.
about 2 years ago
Charlie Marlow
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Yeah
if its 1 year $3M, no.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
THwitter Update
Don’t have exact number for Counsell’s new 1-year deal with Brewers but have been told it’s a bit more than $2 M. He had $1 M salary in ’09.
Get a ife broseph
I'm with yourkenk, and to prove it, my entire message is in the subject line.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Dec 14, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll concur with both of the above, and use Lowatt's format.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
thanks chuck
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
passersby were amazed by the large amounts of blood
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
or even unusually large amounts
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I should have read this thread at work...
… I could have used a laugh this afternoon.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 14, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
$2.1M for a bench player. That’s pretty pricey.
Now, payroll sits at $83.35M with my arb estimates. Wolf is getting $9.25M this year.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
He'll earn it
He has been worth over $3M each year he has been a Brewer, I imagine he’ll earn it again this year.
Again with WAR
its not actually a contract predictor/indicator of what a person should have been paid.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
If you project him to hit
.250/.330/.370 in 200 plate appearances with plus defense, $2.1 million isn’t out of line, actually. $1 million was a huge bargain last year. Don’t know how anyone can complain about this, his price was obviously going up and I don’t exactly expect Escobar to play 162 in 2010.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Was I complaining about $2.1M?
Sorry if that’s how you read it.
I was saying I thought $3M was too much for a backup infielder.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Also
Counsell’s deal could potentially get to $2.6M based on bonuses
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
I doubt he'll hit a whole lot of that incentive money.
I don’t see him starting 75 games. There’d have to be a MAJOR injury in the infield.. or a combination of them. Looks to me like we still need a backup OF and a pitcher. Who fills those spots? My money’s on Oejlten (sp?) and Axford. The only way that pitcher spot if filled with a starter is if they trade one of Suppan, Hart, or Bush. Hart is probably the most likely there.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Agreed
although I best most, if not all of us, would have said the same thing of Counsell prior to 2009.
I guess Oeltjen would have to be the favorite at this point. Or do they go for a guy like Hernan Iribarren who’s got OF and 2B experience for flexibility?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
I think they'll go with Oeltjen until somebody gets hurt
Then they’ll bring Irribarren up, since he can begin the year in the minors.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Got to give the ladies someone to cheer for with Hardy gone.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
I think they'll keep more than 1 around.
last yeare, we had Gerut and Catalanatto
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Good point...
but do you think they maybe go with a veteran on the cheap side rather than a minor leaguer who’ll just sit on the bench most of the time?
How about re-signing Catalanotto for cheap? At 35 yo, I can’t imagine he’s getting much interest.
I'm sure they'll explore that option.
If nothing else, it wouldn’t hurt to have some competition in spring training
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
That probably depends on how much flexibility Attanasio is willing to lose
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
CF, 3B, and 2B are all very likely
to produce less than last year. The offseason gives us time to slowly armor ourselves against these things.
by Braunstalker on Dec 14, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Stop destroying my illusions.
That’s what May is for.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 14, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully this deal means Counsell goes into the HoF as a Brewer
:)
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Barring a season-ending injury before May
It certainly means we will see career HR #40 in a Brewers uniform. The increased attendance and merchandising potential alone should pay for the contract.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 14, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Only if it happens after
August 21
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm expecting a mid-June celebration
But since he sits at 39, it could happen any day. Even if it happens on Opening Day, they still have the T-shirts potential. Who wouldn’t want an “I was there when CC hit #40” T-shirt?
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 14, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
It would be way more special if it happened ON August 21
then, it could be his 40th on his 40th.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 14, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
That would be even more better
Craig Counsell, welcome to the 40/40 club!
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 14, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
haha, the only member... EVER.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Fine by me
I was really worried he was going to get a Kendall-like contract (2 years, $6 million). This is fine as long as Counsell stays great defensively. He’ll also be a decent substitute in the 2nd half when Rickie blows out his wrists again.
That's not a bad deal at all
Counsell always ends up being more than a bench player anyway. You know you’re going to get a pretty good OBP, but maybe he’ll be able to keep up a decent avg. now that he doesn’t bat like a crazy man any more.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
Don't forget.
I think Counsell has meant a lot to this team as a leader, and I believe he signed this deal because he wants to stay more than he wants multiple years or more money.
And since he can get on base and field well, it’s not a hollow “he’s a good guy”.
But I do miss seeing the “crazy man” batting stance. When Counsell does it. Not batting stance guy.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
I certainly miss the old stance
but he was a much better hitter last year with the new stance.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 14, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
No. His mother even hates him
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Dec 14, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Being able to sleep in his own bed half the season probably was a big reason for him re-signing with the Brewers.
During one of the games last season they showed a video of him being interviewed and when he was asked “What do you like most about Miller Park?”, his response was “being able to drive 15-minutes from home”.
I heard
the new contract lets him sleep in the dugout.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
hahaha, remember that article?
Team scavenger hunts and pizza parties for his birthday.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Only when the game goes too late for him to ride his bike home
And he needs to use the dugout phone to call his mom and let her know he’s staying over.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 15, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
counsell
Craig i wish you all the best you are one consistent player brewers had… and you never no w/ weeks..you might be playing more then you think.
he didn't resign from office....
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
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