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by Kyle Lobner on Dec 29, 2009 9:10 AM CST
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This week is off to a slow start in regards to Brewer news, so it's a good time to take a moment to look back. It's already been months since the Brewers re-signed Trevor Hoffman for 2010 and, after watching the market for free agent closers fail to develop, Jorge Says No! has declared Hoffman an offseason winner.
Meanwhile, MLB Trade Rumors has a list of the best and worst offseason signings so far, and lists the Gregg Zaun deal as one of the winners.
Alcides Escobar's winter league season is likely over, but it was a highly successful one: for our bilingual readers, here's a story on Escobar winning the VWL batting title. Hopefully he can parlay some of that momentum into a hot start in 2010. Meanwhile, Hernan Iribarren has switched teams and joined Carlos Gomez and Angel Salome as Brewers active in the Caribbean postseason. You can read more about that in today's Winter League Update.
Dave Pinto of Baseball Musings continues to work through baseball from A to Z, and had this scouting report on Mike Burns yesterday. With the rotation and bullpen more or less full and Chris Capuano, John Halama, Kameron Loe and perhaps Mark Mulder already lined up to start in Nashville, Burns is probably an unlikely candidate to appear as a Brewer in 2010.
In the minors:
- Brett Christopherson of the Appleton Post-Crescent has a year-in-review column for the Timber Rattlers. There's not a lot of surprising stuff in there, but make sure you get all the way to the end for his thoughts on Jeff Suppan's brief appearance in Appleton.
- I had seen this before, but thanks to Rattler Radio for reminding me to mention it: The Brevard County Manatees are giving away free tickets to their home opener on April 8th.
The polls are still open and two votes may come down to the wire in the balloting for our BCB All Decade Team. As of this writing, Derrick Turnbow and Dan Kolb are in a dead heat for the setup man spot, and Chris Capuano and Doug Davis are also tied in the running for a #4 starter. Voting for the former will close at 4 pm today, and the latter at 4 pm tomorrow.
Elsewhere in decade-ending notes, The Biz of Baseball has a list of the top ten stories of the decade. Story #5 is the opening of eleven new ballparks, including Miller Park.
Around baseball:
Giants: Signed Mark DeRosa to a two year deal worth $12 million.
Mariners: Signed catcher Josh Bard and reliever Chad Cordero to minor league deals.
Nationals: Signed first baseman Josh Whitesell and infielder Eric Bruntlett to minor league deals.
The Brewers don't have many roster spots that aren't already spoken for, but the few that remain (backup catcher, final bullpen spot, fifth outfielder) will likely be decided in spring training. R.J. Anderson of FanGraphs wonders if awarding roster spots based on spring performance is really a good idea. For the Brewers, spring training 2009 is a clear example of both sides of the argument: Casey McGehee played his way onto the team and went on to be a key contributor. Chris Duffy and Brad Nelson also played their way in and then quickly played their way back out.
Looking for a little heavy math to get your brain going this morning? Project Prospect has a look at BABIP, and other batted-ball stats that do or don't correlate with it.
On the lighter end of the statistical spectrum, Plunk Everyone wants to rename defensive indifference, calling it "a shrug." I like it.
Sometimes we spend so long looking at an impossible solution that the sudden appearance of an easier one is borderline shocking. Payroll disparity and gnashing of teeth about haves and have nots in baseball frequently lead to discussion of a salary cap, which will most likely never happen. However, many of the same revenue-disparity issues could be addressed by adding a third team in New York, as Craig Calcaterra suggests.
As someone who is occasionally called out for being too positive or negative about the Brewers (sometimes on the same day), I found this post from Dejan Kovacevic on the polarization of sports fans interesting. I do my best to be fair in my coverage here, but the difference between "fair" and "neutral" is pretty significant.
Happy birthday today to:
- Richie Sexson, 2000-2003 Brewer and member of the BCB All Decade Team, who turns 35.
- 2001 Brewer Devon White, who turns 47.
Drink up.
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i like the third team in new york
it would never happen, but it’s an interesting concept
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
Yeah
Like Calcaterra says in the piece, it’d be hard to make work, but easier than a salary cap.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 29, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'm going to try to get numbers to back this up
I’ve got salary figures going back to 1995 from usatoday.com:
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx
I’ve been trying to find time to do a salary analysis and I’ve never had time to write up the results for a first FanShot article. Maybe over New Year’s weekend.
Ran some numbers
I got distracted by the payroll vs. wins comparisons again, but thought I should mention the stats relative to this discussion.
I used data from 2000-2008 with population numbers based on the Census Bureau Metropolitan statistics and the payroll numbers from the USA Today salary tool I cited above.
The correlation between population per team in the metro area and payroll with all teams included is 0.577. The correlation when dropping the Yankees is 0.442. The correlation when dropping New York entirely is 0.375. In terms of payroll dollars per unit of “population per team,” the Yankees are actually in the middle of the pack since 2004 at $20-$22.
So while the correlation isn’t entirely strong, the Yankees seem to be playing by the same rules as everyone else, as it were. There’s some empirical evidence to back up the idea of adding a 3rd NY team to level the playing field.
A fun note: in 2008, the Brewers spent $52 per unit of “population per team.” This is the highest ratio I saw since 2000 and it’s probably fair to say it’s the highest in MLB history (not necessarily adjusted for inflation). The 2007 Brewers hold the 2nd highest ratio at $46.
The Milwaukee metropolitan area has been the smallest of all MLB metro areas every year since 2000. It’s rather obvious that the Brewers are drawing fans from outside Milwaukee. I’ve thought it a little unusual to name a team after their state, like the Texas Rangers or Colorado Rockies, but there seems to be a strong case to be made for renaming our guys the Wisconsin Brewers.
The Milwaukee Brewers of Wisconsin
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 29, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Just combine a bunch of connected metropolitan areas
The Racine-Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis-Fond du Lac-Oshkosh-Neenah-Appleton-Green Bay Brewers, covering 2.5 million of Wisconsin’s finest.
That's the interesting thing about Census Bureau definitions
I know you weren’t being serious, but there’s actually a serious point to be made related to your joke.
The Census Bureau uses a pretty sophisticated algorithm to determine what constitutes a “metropolitan” area consisting of not only population density, but also commerce and commuting patterns. It’s not a perfect system, but it works pretty well when trying to define how interconnected cities become over time. Waukesha and West Allis are part of the Milwaukee metro area. Appleton, Fon du Lac, Green Bay, Oshkosh-Neenah (combined) and Racine stand as metropolitan areas exclusive of Milwaukee.
I would still argue that Milwaukee draws significant numbers from outside their home market – much more than most MLB teams.
Putting my thinking cap on...
So if population is such a weak predictor of payroll, then what other variables should be looked at? Obviously a mulitvariate linear regression model would be more informative than a direct correlation comparison.
Possible other contributing variables:
Owner’s Net Worth
Owner’s desire to win (not quantifiable, I know, but just look at the Orioles…)
Presence of Television deals (YES, WGN, TBS, etc)
Regional Income data
Regional Demographic data (age, gender, race, and avg family size)
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Now that I think about it more
I’m ready to take crazy to the next level.
Baseball should expand, adding a third team to New York and a second team to Boston. The new NY team could be the Highlanders, and the new Boston team could be the Beaneaters.
Not only would this address revenue disparity issues in New York and Boston, it would also help MLB Network: With five teams in the northeast, ESPN would completely ignore the existence of the other 27 teams, giving MLB Network a monopoly on their coverage.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 29, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
worked in the first half of the century
Giants, Yankees, Dodgers
Heck, 4 of the 5 Boroughs have a population that would put them in the top 10 in size for American cities. They could probably afford 4 teams in NYC.
Agreed
The only problem with it is the logic involved in developing a fan base. You’re operating under the assumption that existing Met ir Yankee fans would leave their established team to cheer for an expansion team. Met fans might at this point, but if you’re a Yankee fan, why would you ever bail out and cheer for a team that doesn’t buy championships?
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 29, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
My first thought
The allure of not being surrounded by douchebags. But then realized if that was important they would have moved a long time ago.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 29, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Then again, if they liked it, they would have moved to the north side of Chicago.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Dec 29, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
NYC itself does have four teams
Of course, the other two are the Yankees and Mets affiliates in the New York-Pennsylvania League (A), in Staten Island and Brooklyn respectively.
Darn thos Large-market A ball teams.
I’m sure Doug Melvin would have something to say about the disparity! They can afford better food and better beer to sell their fans, who have the money to buy them!
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I know you're being facetious
But, yeah, at least the Brooklyn Cyclones do really well with attendance. (Supposedly KeySpan Park seats 6,000…) The Yankees own a majority share in their Staten Island affiliate, but it doesn’t draw as well as the Cyclones do. (location, location…the Cyclones play in Coney Island…)
I believe it.
It’s just that Minor League affiliate team success has little to no correlation with their revenue. Oh, and I think it’s safe to say that the Cyclones are not stealing fans away from the Yankees or Mets.
And see, in Coney Island, there are bound to be good Coney Dogs at the park! And no troughs.
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I don't think a 3rd MLB team in NYC would work
…for exactly those reasons (“stealing fans”)
The sort of people who go to minor league games when there is an MLB alternative in the same city are not the same sort of people who’d go to the major league games. OK, in this case they have a built-in base of the sort of people who are prospect nerds for the major league teams they support—but I’d say it’s like the Saints vs. the Twins. The Saints draw people who love baseball and they also draw people who like the minor league experience. They’re not stealing fans from anyone because their fanbase is either consuming the MLB product or wouldn’t have consumed it in the first place.
I don't know that the effect would be great
Sure, a third team brings more baseball to town to compete for fans, but the Yankees are iconic. People aren’t going to stop spending on them because the Brooklyn Bobblers are the new thing in town.
How about the Queens' Queens
Every hat comes with a wig stitched to the inside.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I'm not sure how a third New York team is supposed to work
The Yankees/Mets payrolls aren’t exactly split evenly to begin with; the Yankees had $72 million more in payroll last season. Even in a best case scenario, if you draw like $10 million in payroll from the Mets and a full $80 million from the Yankees (however that’s supposed to happen, revenue alone? And an impossible scenario, since Yankees fans will never jump ship unless the new franchise starts winning at a higher rate; something that wouldn’t happen when one team has a 100 year history and has a $200 million salary to begin with) you’d just be creating 3 large market payrolls instead of 1 large market payroll and 1 ridiculous payroll as currently exists.
It doesn’t solve the salary disparity problem by creating another Los Angeles Dodgers.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
It's not a matter of decreasing the Yankee payroll by $80 million
Even a $30 million hit to their bottom line would start hampering them somewhat. I’m not sure how much money the Yankees are making each season until they cash in on a postseason series. Cutting their revenue by $30 million would leave them with a payroll of $170 million. That makes it harder to buy enough wins to consistently take the AL East.
If the Yankees start making the postseason every other year instead of every year (or even 2 out of 3 years), then the bottom line profits start looking much tighter. Even the Steinbrenners are in the business of making money.
I’m not saying it’d definitively work, but I think the numbers would start working out after only a few years.
Baseball accounting is a funny thing
The Yankee’s P&L shows them breaking even or slightly losing money on an annual basis, but that has to do with the local TV deal more than anything. Because they are in essence negotiating with themselves the Yankees aren’t demanding the full market rate from the YES network. The Cubs did/do the same with WGN.
I suspect it has something to do with business valuations, revenue on the TV side being valued at a higher multiple than revenue on the baseball side. If they were forced to move $30 mil from their left pocket to the right, I’m not sure it changes behavior that much.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 29, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Where did you get a copy of the Yankee's P&L?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 29, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder what division you would put them in
You could rework the divisions like the NFL did, and add a “North” Division. You’d probably need 1 more expansion team to make that work, though.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
But I don’t see how turning the Yankees into “just” a $170 million team really solves anything. New York/Boston/Los Angeles could still buy any free agents they wanted (actually, I guess that’s not the case with the Dodgers this offseason, but you get my point) and first pick will still go to the Yankees.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
I wonder how that would work in terms of divisions?
Do you add another team to the NL or AL east? If you want the team to have a chance it would have to be the NL, so that leaves the NL with 17 and the AL with 14 meaning you probably have to shift Houston to the AL west. Does that then mean you have to have another expansion team to even out the leagues? If so there would probably be another realignment with four teams per division with four divisions.
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
haha
this is the real outside the box thinking that i like
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 29, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
They would have to make two expansion teams, one in NY and one somewhere else.
If MLB wants to keep with it’s having every team able to play each day format.
Why would they need an expansion team?
Why not just move the Marlins to NY, it is not as if they have any fans in Florida. It would also give the Rays a chance to be Florida’s team and therefore a chance for them to increase attendence aswell.
I don't know that moving the Fish would sit well with the people of Miami ...
now that they’re building a new baseball stadium, and all.
I'm sure it is not too late to stop....
I was just trying to think of a team that could be moved rather than trying to create 2 more teams.
If NY got a third team to even out salary, Boston would need another team too.
It would be tough for NY to support a third team, but I think it would be nearly impossible for Boston to support a second team.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 29, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
They couldn’t in 1952, there’s no reason to believe that they could now; the time to put an expansion team in Boston would have been at the same time the NL expanded with the Mets. The Red Sox have had exclusivity over the area for 60 years. If there’s any comparable situation, it would be with the Marlins and Rays vs. the Atlanta Braves in Florida…they’re still having trouble getting native Floridian baseball fans to drop the Braves and they were in Atlanta less than 30 years before the Marlins started playing.
the difference between fair and neutral
It really hit me when I was looking up the above notes about those NY-P teams…the ones for Brooklyn and its park were OK (and actually would be better with some more detail) but the Staten Island one…whoever is working on that needs a refresher in NPOV.
(yes, I agree with Kovacevic’s article—the things he mentions about politics are the reason I no longer participate in online sf fandom.)
Is anyone else shocked by the Giants signing DeRosa?
Who would have saw Sabean signing an aging bat probably on the downside of his career?
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
He and Doug Melvin can play golf together next year starting in October
after they become unemployed.
I can't see Sabean being fired
I mean, if he hasn’t been fired yet what is going to prompt it now?
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Dec 29, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know if he'll ever be fired...
but at some point they might not renew his contract. Of course being born and raised in Los Angeles, I would like Sabean to be in SF forever.
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looks like the mets will be getting jason bay
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
Now some other team not named the Cardinals
needs to sign Holliday
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 29, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
4/60 is not bad for Bay,
but seems so for the Mets. He is a minus defender moving to a huge outfield that will eat a lot of his pop. Seems a foolish signing to me.
by Braunstalker on Dec 29, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
It is being reported as 4 years for $66million
with a vesting option to make it 5years for $80million. Link
That seems alot for a good but not brilliant hitter especially considering who is available as a free agent next year
Pretty dumb signing, yeah
Classic undervaluing of defense. Throw Endy Chavez or Ryan Langerhans in left like the Mariners did last year and you’re only 1 or 2 wins worse off.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I'm surprised this happened so close to the Hollidays
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
good god
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 29, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
I know you laughed. Admit it.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
oh i laughed
but my god
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 29, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Is Mrs. Hyatt seeking advice from Big Daddy Drew?
I didn’t want to FanShot this until it was confirmed, but the email from “Liz” sounds awful familiar.
I agree, this looks awfully suspicious.
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I fully confirm this
She’s a little hesitant on Brewer Wynn. Go ahead and Fanshot it.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
she wants a serious answer?
I mean, yeah, I can understand not asking us, we’re biased, but Deadspin?
I’d Ask MetaFilter, myself, but that’s my preferred non-baseball way to waste time. It may be worth the $5 to join to get better answers ;)
Big Daddy Drew is our generation's (foul-mouthed) answer to Dear Abby.
I think Mrs Hyatt sought sage counsel.
by Rubie Q on Dec 29, 2009 7:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A kid I ran into named Brewer....
Last year some time, my boy had a tournament at some sort of athletic facility, and they had basketball courts, exercise equipment, the whole ten yards — anyway, there was this room, that had a sign on it that said "Star Wars Defense Training", of course my son and I had to watch, and for about 10 minutes we watched all these Poindexters beat on karate dummies with broom-handles pretending that they were Darth Vader or one of those Chewbaccas. It was pretty funny and sad all at the same time. Upon further reflection, I thought it was an ingenious idea though, you get a bunch kids that are otherwise inactive to exercise by indulging their obsession with Star War guys.
The boy and I, went on our way, took care of business and headed home. The next day we returned to the same facility, to continue in the tournament, only to see another sign taped up "Star Wars Defense Training canceled due to a lack of sustained interest" — I said "Awwww", and was about to leave, when this mom came up to the room with her son, and said "Maybe next year, Brewer you can play light-sabers"
I know you have dreams of playing catch with your boy, and your son going from one of those big red plastic bats to mashing jackshots in high-school, — but if you name him Brewer, the first thing he is ever going to want to mash with a baseball bat is your pillbox.
If I may, I would like to get scientific – Women have this animal instinct to care, nurture and protect their children – Exactly 93.34% of the time, this instinct makes them batshit crazy, however sometimes as a husband and father you need to defer to their "maternal instinct", and this would be one of those times. Your wife (who sounds like a top-shelf partner by the way) is already becoming overcome by these forces and is proactively acting to ensure that her son doesn’t get his ass Yosted on a daily basis, — and also making sure he won’t hate his parents the day he learns that there are literally 100s of other names you could have chosen in the stead of "Brewer".
Evolution intended for the dad to teach their sons: how to blame the dog when the room smells, how to descramble porn, how to make dirty words in the calculator, how to guilt their mom into baking cookies, and the list goes on…. however, the truly evolved male, will know that he has no business naming children or changing their diapers.
If you think about this even further, Our lexicon includes a lot of bad names, there are the dork names like Stanley which suck, but do offer some less appalling options such as "Stan". There are also the whacky biblical names like Zachariah, that can be truncated into "Zach", etc, etc. – I just do not see any upside, or possible dodges to naming some poor soul "Brewer" though.
In closing I would be so bold to say that this could be the worst boy-naming since some asshat chose to name his son "Ned Yost IV"
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by Fatter than Joey on Dec 29, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
my favorite part of this
If I may, I would like to get scientific – Women have this animal instinct to care, nurture and protect their children – Exactly 93.34% of the time, this instinct makes them batshit crazy
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 29, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
actually, i lied
i laughed so hard at the last sentence, i think i peed a little
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Dec 29, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't laughed that loud at an internet comment in a long time
You have stated a better case than any I have read. I officially will not Yost this kid.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Good for you.
My son is the best thing that happened to me in my life. I just would hate to see you and yours get things started on the wrong foot.
Thanks for having a great sense of humor, After 16+ years of “wedded bliss”, I have learned a few things and I hope you know I wrote that out of concern for your little man, and of course the advancement of science.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Dec 30, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW
I rec’d at like 8:45, but I didn’t post because I wasn’t sure if Lowatt was going to be mad.
Also, my wife didn’t think it was funny, even when I kept laughing and pointing out the scientific evidence. Devil woman.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 29, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
I rec'd that shit ASAP
I was drunk. Sue me.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 30, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Dude --
My evidence is solid — I have spent the last 10 years or so observing and logging data.
Last night in fact, I walked into our living room, and all of the couch cushions and pillows are laying on the floor, and my wife was powerjumping on the couch, normally when I see things like this, I just keep on a-walking and go to the kitchen, however we have a nice couch, so I felt like I needed to do something.
So I engaged in the following conversation:
FtJ: Hey man, what’s going on
Wife: I lost my cellphone
FtJ: I lose my cellphone all the time, why are we jumping on the couch?
Wife: I am hoping to push it through the leather.
FtJ: You realize that regardless how hard you jump, you are not going to be able to push a cellphone through leather?
Wife: Should I cut a big hole into the couch then? (Yells to one of the kids to get a knife from the kitchen)
FtJ: Well no, I am pretty sure we can recover the phone w/o destroying our couch
Wife: Well, I would like to see you do it, if I don’t get my phone back, I’m going to be pissed
FtJ: You do realize your phone cost ~$150, the couch ~$1500, in a worst case scenario, your phone is way more replaceable.
Wife: You are stupid. Really stupid.
At that point I got my wife and the voices, to move off the couch and with the help of my son we were able to tip the couch and recover the phone.
That would be “Exhibit A” in my data set – I use “A”, because I have exhausted all of the numbers in previous exhibits.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Dec 30, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
Very nice
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 30, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Really, though
“Ned” isn’t so bad once you realize it’s short for Nebuchadnezzar.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
and now that I'm more awake
…I confused "asking Drew’ with “asking the commenters” and his answer was right on. Just say no to Bad White People Names.
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