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Around SBN: MLB Trade Deadline: Where each team stands right now

The Weekend Mug, now with more Australians! And another Canadian!

After trading J.J. Hardy, Doug Melvin realized he had to win back the hearts of Wisconsin women everywhere.  Enter Oeltjen.

After trading J.J. Hardy, Doug Melvin realized he had to win back the hearts of Wisconsin women everywhere. Enter Oeltjen.

Some things to read while on a social networking site far, far away.

So far this is my second week doing the weekend post.  My first weekend was immediately after the Carlos Gomez trade, and this weekend comes after the Brewers announce signing Gregg Zaun.  It's my turn again the weekend following Christmas, so maybe Brewers fans can be expecting a Christmas present from Doug Melvin and the gang.

About the Zaun signing:

  • Adam McCalvy tells us that Zaun was assured the starting catching spot.  Zaun has played more than 110 games only once in his career and more than 100 games four times, and he's not getting any younger.  There should be plenty of opportunities for whoever the backup catcher should be.
  • Right Field Bleachers thinks that backup will be either Mike Rivera or George Kottaras, with the idea being another year of minor league polishing for Angel Salome and Jonathon Lucroy.
  • In Between Hops likens Zaun to a cheaper Jason Kendall.  Neither is very good at hitting (some would claim they are atrocious), but over the last three years, Zaun has been Kendalls slight superior in OBP and has been significantly better slugging.  Zaun did this in close to half of the plate appearances of Kendall. 
  • I think that View From Bernie's Chalet is more excited about the end of the Jason Kendall era than for the signing of Zaun.
  • Brewers! Brewers! Keep Turning Up the Heat! finds the signing to be strange and suggests that Milwaukee had enough readily available options.  Personally, I prefer having someone like Zaun around.  I don't think that Rivera would be a viable option to start the whole season, and the other options (Kottaras, Lucroy and Salome) are all younger and could really struggle, particularly Lucroy who would be skipping triple-A.  I think that I would like Lucroy to either back up Zaun for the first couple months of the season (like I said, there should be plenty of opportunities) or for him to be called up sometime in June provided he isn't massively struggling in Nashville.  Gradually working in what appears to be the heir apparent to the Catchers position seems like a much better idea than throwing him straight into the fire.
  • And the Grand National Championships thinks this is the most logical move in the history of sports.
  • Oh, and if I ever met Gregg Zaun, he does not look like a guy I would want to piss off.

Also from the Grand National Championships, they believe that re-signing Craig Counsell--who Doug Melvin has made an offer to--would be a bad idea and suggests signing someone like Esteban German instead.  If we were to go with someone else, I think that going with someone in house (like Adam Heether) would be just as good as signing someone from outside the organization.  I also think that a player like Craig Counsell is a boon to any team, though, and would serve as a very very good mentor to Alcides Escobar.

The Brewers also signed former Diamondback and full-time Australian Trent Durrington Oltjean...whichever.  Brew City Sports tried to reach him for comment, but unfortunately, Oltjean was too busy doing Australian type activities.  Oltjean is expected to provide protection for Ryan Braun in the cuteness batting order after the departure of J.J. Hardy.

For those hoping that the Brewers decide to pursue Brad Penny, the bad news is that he rejected a one year offer to stay with the GIants.  So it looks like any team that wants to sign him would either have to offer multiple years or a pretty significant--and guarenteed--amount of money for one year.

In Between Hops reminds us again of the comparison that can be made between Casey McGehee and Bill Hall.

Around the Majors:
Atlanta BravesRafael Soriano is considering accepting their offer of arbitration.
Chicago Cubs:  Could announce a signing of Mike Cameron as soon as Monday.
Houston Astros: Signed former Giant Ryan Sadowski
Kansas City Royals Signed Cuban lefty Noel Arguelles
Minnesota Twins: Signed 16 year old Dominican Shortstop Miguel Sano.
Seattle Mariners and Jack Z: Signed Chone Figgins to a $36MM, 4 year deal.

If you were disappointed when they announced they were shutting down production, good news!  A movie adaptation of Moneyball is going to be back underway!

Oh, and potentially the most exciting news of the day, Metsblog cites Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus as saying that there will be two big announcements at the winter meetings that will be way bigger than "any player signing or news made during".  I don't have any idea what it could be, so feel free to speculate.

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Huh

I wonder what the ‘big news’ will be.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Dec 6, 2009 12:26 AM CST reply actions  

I would guess that on will be an announcement of Selig's successor.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 6, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of the commenters on that post had interesting ideas

Pete Rose reinstatement, Division Series expansion, etc.

by TheJay on Dec 6, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't get it

aren’t those “news made during”? what the hell is bigger news than news? A banning of the baseball writers association, and thus the news?

by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 6, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it will be

the division series expanding.

2009 Brewers: Pass the liquor.

by molitorfan on Dec 6, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Institution of a DH in the National League?

Eliminating it in the AL? Probably not, but I won’t rule anything out.

by NoahJ on Dec 6, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup. They could announce it at the winter meetings, and institute it in a few years.

I think that is about as unlikely of a suggestion as there is, but still possible.

by NoahJ on Dec 6, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

What's more likely?

Instituting the DH in the NL, or eliminating it from the AL?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 6, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I would bet instituting it in the NL is more likely.

With so much being done to protect pitchers from injury, not having them bat would be one way to keep them from something happening while swinging/getting hit by a pitch/running the basepaths. Also, a DH would equal more runs scored, which might help produce more ticket sales as most fans enjoy the high-scoring games most.

by NoahJ on Dec 6, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS

This is preposterous!

Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.

The coolest motherfunker on the planet.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 6, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

According to the NYT

Bloomberg is fully embracing sabermetrics.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 6, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

NoahJ

I cannot thank you enough for pointing me to that Star Wars Status Updates story. That officially made my night, and will probably do the same for many of my friends.

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by Yar Nivek on Dec 6, 2009 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

That link was amazing.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 6, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Catchers

Kottaras is out of options. While I doubt they’re so attached to him he automatically earns the backup job, I think Zaun will start with Kottaras backing him up. That will allow Lucroy to begin the year in AAA. Salome can start in Huntsville or split the C & DH spot in the Nashville lineup with Lucroy. Assuming no trades go down, of course.

by TheJay on Dec 6, 2009 12:44 AM CST reply actions  

I concur

Kottaras seems to have a pretty high ceiling. If he can produce at the major league level, perhaps the team feels he can be the guy, and they have two catchers as trade bait.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Dec 6, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

If signing Zaun, allows us to keep Lucroy's and Salome's clock from starting

without signing Kendall.

It’s a good move

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Dec 6, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

Christmas Present

I remember the great Christmas present that Doug Melvin brought Brewer fans about 3 years ago. More Grinch like if you ask me.

by backtocali on Dec 6, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Does the fact that the Cubs are looking to sign Cameron

mean that they have decided to get into the untucking stakes aswell?
How will the Cards react to that?

by Saltire on Dec 6, 2009 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

Don't even suggest that.

It makes me want to punch something.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 6, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

me too

battlekow: Bill is having an oppo-gasm

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2009 1:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Cameron to the Cubs

makes me want to weep.

Off-topic but still related- My dad’s friend told me yesterday that he thinks Kendall is a better hitter than Cameron. His only reason- Cameron strikes out too much.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Dec 6, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

Your dad needs new friends....

Cameron to the Cubs will blow, I wonder what the terms are going to be. Aka arby not offered fail.

Any arby estimates? 9/10m?

by SgtClueLs on Dec 6, 2009 11:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh

I would hate to see Cameron on the Cubs.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 6, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a pretty good sign that you're talking baseball with the wrong people.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 6, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Upon looking over my shoulder at the picture

my girlfriend “oooo He’s cute” after which I burst out laughing and made her read the caption. Well played NoahJ

by Jeo on Dec 6, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

Thank goodness Noah and your girlfriend are here

I saw the picture, and my first thought was “who’s the lumpy guy?”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 6, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Kendall gone Cameron gone it just keeps getting better

Now if we could just get Space Aliens to abduct Suppan and spend the whole 2010 season anal probing him(can you say Anal probing on the family friendly BCB site?) life would be outstanding

Moving on ready look forward not backwards The 2009 season is over it never happen as far as I am concerned so lets boldly look forward to the 2010 season

by WSB Chris on Dec 6, 2009 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

Bitter beer face is not a good look, Chris.

Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.

The coolest motherfunker on the planet.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 6, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I am not bitter

Life is wonderful every meal a banquet every formation a parade just another wonderful day in the Corp(can anyone name the movie that line is from)

Moving on ready look forward not backwards The 2009 season is over it never happen as far as I am concerned so lets boldly look forward to the 2010 season

by WSB Chris on Dec 7, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions  

You're dogmeat, pal!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Dec 7, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay.

Be cool, and relax. Take a breath, take ten paces back.

The coolest motherfunker on the planet.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 7, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Does the team have insurance on Suppan that would pay his salary in that case?

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Dec 6, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Frontpage poll

“The possibility of Jonathan Lucroy winning the starting catching job.”

Isn’t that possibility eliminated by them since signing two catchers? I didn’t vote in the poll because I didn’t see an option for “I’m completely underwhelmed”

by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 6, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

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