DiFelice has shoulder surgery
I guess he really was on the 60-day DL for a reason...yet another Brewers pitcher who went for the rehab option and really, really shouldn't have.
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Not exactly the type of news I was expecting during winter meetings..
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Tom's got him out for 2010
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
let's try this again
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Why is it that this organization seems to be absolutely ignorant
in terms of pitching? Injuries mount, poor development program, people trying ‘rehab programs’ rather than surgery outright. I mean really? It just seems like no one in the FO has any idea what to do when it comes to pitching. Its frustrating.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
If you'd read the article above
you’d see that DiFelice said his injury was bad enough that he’d be out 2010 even if he had had the surgery in September. I agree they might have made a bad decision in not pushing Capuano to get surgery earlier, but DiFelice’s rehab program seems to have been the best opportunity for him to play in 2010 if it were somehow successful.
I believe Lewis Yocum suggested he try to rehab it. He's a world renowned shoulder expert
not affiliated with the club. And really, it’s VERY hard to come back successfully from two shoulder surgeries, so rehab is a MUCH MUCH more desireably option, even if it ends up leading to surgery anyway, you want to exhaust the rehab process first.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
agreed
But, as I was trying to say in my complaint and failed, I’m not sure if “just rehabbing it” actually works for a professional athlete as opposed to Joe Bloggs who comes into the doc with a shoulder problem and whose most strenuous physical activity involves shoveling snow. I really would like examples of any of these players who decide on not having surgery and actually have successful careers at the same level or slightly below as opposed to the sort of thing we’ve seen, for example, with Gagne and Turnbow.
I don't think Lewis Yocum deals with a whole lot of Joe Bloggs
and even if he does, he should know the difference between them and athletes, since he works on nearly all of athletes with shoulder problems..
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Her question holds, though
Can you name a pitcher who has tried to rehab an injury of this magnitude instead of having surgery and has gone on to be effective for an extended period of time? I can’t think of one.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I think there's a different calculation for a guy like DiFelice
If he has the surgery after the season, maybe he’s ready to start rehab in 2010. If he doesn’t do well there, who’s going to want a 33-year-old journeyman with a bum shoulder who can’t hit 85? On the other hand, if he rehabs, maybe he can stick in the majors for another season-plus.
I just want to be clear.
I think the organization is poor at:
-Developing young pitching.
-Identifying pitching talent.
-Knowing how to prevent injuries.
-Knowing how to properly address injuries.
ecocd and tcyoung, you both disagree with those points?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 7, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
well
I agree with the first two points. I’m not really sure on the first one, and i disagree with the second one. Their way of addressing injuries has been to listen to what the specialist, like Yocum, says. I think that’s a proper way to address it. As for knowing how to prevent injuries, i’m not sure. I’d have to see if more Brewers were getting injured over the last 10 years than other organizations. Even if that’s so, I think hiring Peterson is a HUGE step forward in trying to fix whatever problem there is.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Peterson is pretty much what makes my point
They realize no one has a clue. So they hire a guy known for a program that is supposed to cut down on injuries.
Sure listening to ‘experts’ is a ‘good idea’. But when it burns, say, Ben Sheets, Chris Capuano, AND Mark DiFelice all in the span of 1.5 years? That seems like either really, really bad luck or someone dropped a ball somewhere.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 7, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Could Be Worse....
Dusty Baker…the ruiner of all arms with potential…could be the manager instead of Macha.
Hiring Peterson was a step in the right direction.
by TheBurningRom on Dec 7, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair
Asking someone to stake their reputation on keeping Ben Sheets healthy is setting them up for failure.
There's a new instructor in the department here
M. DeFelice. Coincidence? Or something to occupy his non-rehabbing time.
File under "Bummer, man...
I mean, dude, seriously?"
I would think the replacement will come from within
Axford or Butler probably just won a spot in the pen.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I think Axford's velocity would be welcome in a 'pen
that features soft-tossers like Hoffman, Stetter, Riske (if he throws a pitch at all for the Brewers), Villanueva, and Smith (if he makes the team).
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 7, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
interesting point, actually.
personally i think they’d rather spend the money elsewhere because of what McClung will get in arbitration, but it’s a viable option.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Not with one guy
at 1 year $7.5M
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 7, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Crasnick Reporting
That Jenkins is looking to play and has been working out at 1st and OF in Arizona. If he could figure out his swing I would love for him as a 4th OF at a cheap price. A little Left-handed power coming off the bench would be nice, too bad it looks like we have enough OFers as is….unless they move Hart.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
I wouldn't mind seeing Jenks back
at the right price.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 7, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
I hope the Brewers aren't actually looking to spend on a middle reliever
I’m not sure if anyone else saw this story from last night about possible Brewers interest in Rafael Betancourt (who would be a Type A free agent if he declines arbitration, btw). I figured he got the story wrong at the time, but if DiFelice is out for the year I guess it’s slightly more feasible…
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