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I couldn't believe it either

I thought he was at least 32. When healthy his numbers are actually pretty good.

by mnbrewer on Dec 8, 2009 4:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing the Brewers would be allowed to give him a physical before a deal goes through.

At which point, he either becomes a guy who’s too injured to trade for or a new project for Rick Peterson.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 8, 2009 6:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Sign a low-risk high reward, oft-injured FA pitcher. Don’t trade for one.

by Mykenk on Dec 8, 2009 6:18 AM CST reply actions  

I like this deal.

I think Hart and Maine are in similar situations. Hart’s a hitter with decent potential who’s never really been able to put it all together. Maine’s a good starting pitcher with somewhat questionable health. You could make a case they’re of nearly identical value, but as a pitcher, Maine is in a better position to help the Brewers.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 8, 2009 6:30 AM CST reply actions  

acknowledged reply fail

I agree with KL – I think it’ll be a while until Hart rights the ship and he shows no sign of doing so in Milwaukee. Yes, he’s got enormous potential (if he can figure out the slider and continue to take walks like he did near the end of 2009), but it’s not like we’ll pull in Sabathia or Greinke for Hart. If the player has any positive value, pull the trigger on the trade (contingent on full physical of course).

by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 8, 2009 6:51 AM CST reply actions  

At this point

I can’t say I would complain about the move. I just have this voice in the back of my head that keeps saying Bill Hall, Bill Hall, Bill Hall when I think of Hart. Don’t get me wrong, I want the guy to succeed, but at his current pace I’d be happy to get some of value in return, i.e. Maine before his value is too low. Plus, with the numbers Hart has put up I don’t think it would be extremely difficult to replace him.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Dec 8, 2009 7:26 AM CST reply actions  

It's been noted before in articles that:

the last time John Maine pitched well and healthy, was when Rick Peterson was his pitching coach.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 8, 2009 7:57 AM CST reply actions  

This move would excite me more than signing Wolf would.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Dec 8, 2009 7:57 AM CST reply actions  

I'd do this...

….presuming Maine passes a physical.

Same years of service, similar cost (Maine should actually be cheaper).

Granted, he’s only pitched over 140 innings once. But he’s young, a #2-3 talent, under team control. If we get 25 starts out of the guy at ~$3 million, it would be a steal. Hart is replaceable. Gerut, Gamel, FA, whomever.

by infield fly on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

John Maine is better than most of the pitchers on the free agent market

But given his injury status I’d want a prospect of two to come to Milwaukee in this one. Won’t happen but we can hope. Anywho, still think that a Gil Meche trade is the best option.

by Donald Driver on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

If he looks to be healthy I like it

As much as I’d like to see Gamel stay at third, you could start him in RF at 3A and make do with Gerut and friends for a while without losing much projected production from Hart. I’ve always liked Maine.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Dec 8, 2009 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

Or Kelly Johnson

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Dec 8, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Like others have said – as long as Maine is projected to start pitching when the pitchers and catchers report.

Hart really does remind me of Hall way too much – except without the contract. I love him – have his bobble heads – and autographed baseball and picture of Hart and want him to succeed – I just think that the time for him was 2009 – and if his RF replacement is projected to be no worse – pull the trigger on the trade.

by Saberilliterate on Dec 8, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

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