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Tom H is not sure if there are any incentives. We have the power to block the option next year, so there's no harm involved there. Assuming there are not crazy incentives, this deal looks pretty nice. For us to break even on a $4.75 million, 1 year deal, Looper has to have a 4.80 ERA over 150 innings, and almost all projections think he'll be better than that.

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For us to break even on a $4.75 million, 1 year deal, Looper has to have a 4.80 ERA over 150 innings, and almost all projections think he’ll be better than that.

How many estimations are involved in that statement?

by HRF on Feb 10, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I know you're joking but I think it's interesting to show everyone what's involved

(5.37-4.8) /9 *150= +9 runs, or almost one win. That’s a little below the rate for 1 win. And we get the pure 1-year deal. You can also factor in his hitting for a few bonus runs.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Feb 10, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For your stated reasons, I’m enjoying this deal. Brewers should be getting a discount and makes them a little bit more frisky.

by HRF on Feb 10, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

is 5.37 the replacement level ERA?

9 and 150 are innings?

by tcyoung on Feb 11, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

150 innings

/9 is to get runs better than replacement for 1 inning so you can multiply it, otherwise you have to do units of 9.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Feb 11, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's possibly not a pure 1-year deal

He could totally tank (or just put up a 4.80 ERA in 150 innings), exercise his half of the mutual option, and get a buyout. So maybe it should really be 4.80 over 160 innings just to be safe. Only an estimate, though…

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by TheJay on Feb 11, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Turning lemons into lemonade

Considering the free agent market, the payroll, and the faltering economy, this deal seems to be about as good as we can do. I’m fairly happy with it.

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Feb 10, 2009 11:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It makes you wonder

How much were we offering Looper when we were interested in him a month or two ago (assuming we reached that stage)? If we got to the point where we made an offer (even unofficially) and he turned it down, I’d bet that offer was for more than what he just signed for.

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by roguejim on Feb 11, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

A lot less than I expected, even with the market in free-fall.

by Wayfaerer on Feb 11, 2009 4:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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